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Can’t cope with this school mum anymore…

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PaddlingLikeADuck · 23/05/2022 07:33

There are 4 of us who see each other on the school run each morning, our children are all in the same class and we tend to have general chit chat at drop-off and pick-up times.

Our children are 8 so we’ve known each other for about 4 years and over those
years we’ve done many days out together with the children, but also many nights out with just us as adults.

The hard thing is that one of the mums is near unbearable. She is so boastful, always bragging about what she has, the holidays she takes, the home refurbishments she’s doing, her car, her clothes, her jewellery etc. And no matter what conversation is being had she always manages to bring it back to herself and she has to out-do everyone. It’s so draining.

What she boasts most about though is her daughter who can do absolutely nothing wrong in her mum’s eyes. The mum is always bragging about her daughter’s school achievements, her daughter’s after-school activities, the medals and certificates she won, her daughter’s appearance, what she buys for her daughter etc and she will constantly put other children down (in a variety of subtle ways) to make her daughter seem better than everyone else. It’s really, really unpleasant.

She also loves to pass negative comments about the homes of other parents (if her child has been there) and she’s just so judgemental of how other people live if they don’t have the same £20k conservatory that she has. She has even stopped her daughter going to houses if she doesn’t approve of something, even if it’s as petty as some of the wallpaper coming away from the wall. She purposefully asks the parents of these children if she can use their bathroom so she can go and look upstairs.

Her daughter is incredibly spoilt and I know she’s only 8 but she’s quite unpleasant to be around. She constantly interrupts, pushes other children around, takes things from other children, is always showing off about herself etc and always has to be the best at everything.

The whole thing is so draining and it has gotten so, so much worse over the last year to the point that the other three of us are just done with it. We can’t cope with it anymore. We’ve been tolerating it for sake of the children’s friendships but I’m not sure that’s enough of a motivation anymore.

It is my birthday next week and I want us three (me and the two nice mums) to go out for a meal but I don’t know how to go about it without offending the other mum.

I just really, really don’t want her there because she will ruin the entire evening.

The mum has already been making comments about my birthday and asking how are we all going to celebrate it together and coming up with ideas etc and I feel like dying inside.

I just don’t want her to be part of it.

How do I manage this situation?

My husband thinks I should just be honest with her and tell her that I simply don’t enjoy her company and explain why.

I can’t do that though can I?

Has anyone else been in a similar situation and dealt with it in a manner that nobody gets hurt?

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legalalien · 23/05/2022 19:13

Completely agree that all of you need to start gently pulling her up on it. Sometimes listening to someone and then leaving a long pause, followed by a change of subject is enough to make the point.

There was a mum in my child's class who was very much like this. She was in a completely different friendship group to me and had a lot of similar alpha mum friends. But we chatted occasionally at the school gate because we had similar jobs and came from the same country. Her demeanour and the subject of the conversation was completely different when she spoke to me - she was quite normal. When one of her children was miserable at a very prestigious school, and she decided to take them out of it, I was the first person she told at the school gate. My response was "sounds like the right decision". She burst into tears as she was so stressed that people would judge her and her child as not being good enough and she wasn't brave enough to tell her so-called "friends". Some people are quite horrible, and others are really insecure, it's hard to know what category this lady is in.

On your specific birthday issue, I'd suggest that you ask your DH to organise a meal out or whatever as a "surprise" and for him to contact the two mums that he has noticed that you do seem to talk about a lot / like, and invite them separately. If he 'forgets' to ask the other person, then that's not down to you and can easily be shrugged off - and you get to enjoy your birthday outing.

Hippee · 23/05/2022 19:24

Sounds like you could use the house thing as your way to broach this. Say something like "I haven't invited you round because you are always so horrible about other people's houses behind their backs."

mizu · 23/05/2022 19:33

She sounds hideous. This is why I rarely hung around at the school gates! And I'm a teacher so hardly ever made it to pick up anyway!

If she is as awful as you say, I'd be ditching her as a 'friend' - who needs a person like this in their lives?

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User280905 · 23/05/2022 19:36

Say something like "I haven't invited you round because you are always so horrible about other people's houses behind their backs."

I would do exactly this. Don't let her get away with this behaviour any more. There might be a really nice person buried under all the insecurity.

Perplexed0522 · 03/06/2022 08:30

Well after an incident 4 days ago where she publicly tried to shame me on FaceBook I simply thought “fuck her” and deleted her.

I’m done with it all.

It’s currently half term so I’m not having to face her so it will be interesting to see how things are next week.

She will know I’ve blocked her and seeing as I’ve had no text from her asking about it, I’m hoping she will stay out of my way at school too.

Shinyandnew1 · 03/06/2022 08:38

Perplexed0522 · 03/06/2022 08:30

Well after an incident 4 days ago where she publicly tried to shame me on FaceBook I simply thought “fuck her” and deleted her.

I’m done with it all.

It’s currently half term so I’m not having to face her so it will be interesting to see how things are next week.

She will know I’ve blocked her and seeing as I’ve had no text from her asking about it, I’m hoping she will stay out of my way at school too.

Are you the OP with a name change?

Prinnny · 03/06/2022 08:40

Perplexed0522 · 03/06/2022 08:30

Well after an incident 4 days ago where she publicly tried to shame me on FaceBook I simply thought “fuck her” and deleted her.

I’m done with it all.

It’s currently half term so I’m not having to face her so it will be interesting to see how things are next week.

She will know I’ve blocked her and seeing as I’ve had no text from her asking about it, I’m hoping she will stay out of my way at school too.

Oooh what happened?

Steelesauce · 03/06/2022 08:48

You've got 3 options really. You all go out without her without saying and deal with the inevitable fall out. You tell her why you're not inviting her and again, deal with the inevitable fall out or you just invite her and keep the peace.

I would be mindful though, sometimes as the instigator of these things, you're used as the scapegoat and painted as a bad person and you're the one who ends up isolated by everyone. Even though the others all say they feel the same.

PaddlingLikeADuck · 03/06/2022 08:54

Shinyandnew1 · 03/06/2022 08:38

Are you the OP with a name change?

Yes, I have reverted back to my original one now for the sake of ease 👍

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PaddlingLikeADuck · 03/06/2022 08:56

Prinnny · 03/06/2022 08:40

Oooh what happened?

Something of nothing really….just a passive aggressive comment to try and mock my marriage.

It probably came across as an innocent comment to others but I know exactly what she was doing.

It was the straw that broke the camel’s back.

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Prinnny · 03/06/2022 09:05

Ah well she’s done you a favour really, good riddens!

toucaninjapan · 03/06/2022 09:29

Please do let us know how she acts when she sees you OP!🙃

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/06/2022 09:38

Distance yourself slowly. Go out with the other two but stay off SM. Set up a WhatsApp with the other two and reply less on the main group as a PP has suggested.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 03/06/2022 09:39

Oh ffs, didn't read the thread properly 🙄😂

Strawberriesaregreat · 03/06/2022 10:10

Just say you can all go for coffee and cake and then go out separately for an evening with the other two. Overbearing mums dc will only make things difficult for your dc otherwise. Kids like hers are often seen as popular at school because they are usually loud and pushy and very rude.
They aren't popular really its just that other kids are scared of not being their friend for fear of being ostracised. They're bullies. There was a girl at my daughters primary school like this she's still like it as a teenager. None of the parents liked her she was the lead in all the school plays and a real drama queen. That didn't bother me just that it just highlighted to her that she must be wonderful when she was a brat. Mother thought the sun shone out of her backside.,

axolotlfloof · 03/06/2022 10:24

It's tricky. I had a friend like this. She was truly lovely most of the time, but was constantly complaining in restaurants and putting people down.
She has a very, very sad back story.
I stuck with her when my kids were small but gradually backed away.
Her racist discussion around Brexit was the final straw for me.

iRun2eatCake · 03/06/2022 13:00

Have you told the other two about blocking her?

Intrigueddotcom · 03/06/2022 13:05

Why would she need to know
just all agree that you don’t mention social plans to her and don’t post on social media
or go for the jugular and openly talk about plans and if she asks why not invited say that only for close friends and leave at that

Perplexed0522 · 03/06/2022 13:11

iRun2eatCake · 03/06/2022 13:00

Have you told the other two about blocking her?

I’ve told one of them yes. She doesn’t have FB though so it probably doesn’t mean much to her 😂

Our other friend ‘unfollowed’ the difficult woman a long time ago. She couldn’t understand wonder why I didn’t just do the same but it’s harder for me as our children are close friends. Plus, it was my understanding that unfollowing someone means you can’t see their FB page but they can still see and comment on yours? So unfollowing her wouldn’t have made any difference anyway as she’d still be gushing about her daughter on my page or making her passive aggressive comments.

Ah well - it’s done now and I already feel less stressed 😂

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