Immunisations

[Kszw]

Did anyone refuse there babies immunisations after so many? Don't come at me but im considering refusing any more after her 16 week one's. After seeing her scream and cry on her 8 week one's absolutely hurt me! I've never seen my child shed tears at all and that day they was poring. Even thought im dreading her 16 week one's I think after that is enough. I just feel its so wrong she should be able to make her own decisions and until she is old enough that is what I shall do! I just think its absolute torture with out her consent. Yes I'm her mum but I feel absolutely terrible putting her in pain when she can't say no😢

Your baby, your voice. Do your research and determine if your baby crying for a short time trumps protection from serious illness

Research the symptoms of the illnesses the immunisations are protecting her against before you decide.

After 16 weeks then next ones are at 1 and then not till they’re about 4.

If your child gets the illnesses they’re being vaccinated against they will have to have a hell of a lot more injections including IVs. It’s a big difference.

Babies cry all the time.

If you don't complete the course of vaccinations they aren't as effective as they should be.

I'm old enough to remember kids being seriously ill, permanently affected or dying from diseases we routinely vaccinate against now. Some of them can be really horrible.

Give your child all the vaccinations available, for everyone else's sake as well as her own.

You have a responsibility to keep your child safe. Vaccinations are part of that. Babies cry. They cry a lot more when they've got one of the awful diseases the immunisations protect against. Or they stop crying at all. Not getting your child the recommended immunisations does them a massive disservice and is not putting them first. You're choosing alleviating your own discomfort over the safety of your child, at the end of the day.

Honestly, taking the baby that you would do anything to protect and letting someone hurt them is horrible to watch. Trust me, I wanted to punch the nurse that did my daughters first set of jabs! But remember that the injections are there to protect them. Imagine how hard it would be for you to watch your baby suffer if they caught the illness the vaccinations are there to prevent. They cry for a while after the injection and might be feeling pants for a few hours, but then it's done and you can feel confident that you have protected them from horrible diseases.

Could someone else maybe take them to the appointment? Like baby's dad? Honestly there's no shame in that if it's (understandably) too hard for you to watch. I went with my best friend to take her ds - I was supposed to be there to look after her dd but she ended up crying in the waiting room with anxiety so we swapped and I took him in for the injections. Although I love the bones of him as his godmother, I didn't have the same emotional bond as a mother does so it was easier for me, and by the time we returned to the waiting room, all tears had stopped (from the baby at least, she was still teary haha).

Thank you to you all that have actually been considerably. Instead of stating I'm doing thinking of doing this for my own comfort which isn't the case at all! Like the top comment says my child my voice! I'm her voice while she is unable to speak!! Just because she is a baby doesn't mean we have to put them through pain! My partner never had his immunisations and he is completely fine 24 years old still healthy!! Like I said I was considering not having them done after 16 week one's are done! I'm a first time mum so me asking these questions should be completely normal but some of you on here are argumentative as hell! I've got questions what your there to answer not to belittle me as a first time mother!

Thanks again to the people that actually took into consideration of my feelings as well as advising me on the right thing to do :)

I was really upset after my baby's first imms. I wasn't questioning whether to refuse but just was dreading the next one and my dad, who had measles as a child said "it's better that she cries for a bit having an injection and you can comfort her than she cries for days while the drs try to stop her from dying and you can't do anything". Which wasn't a bad point, considering his experience.

You say you don’t want to make the decision without her consent, but not getting her vaccinated is also a choice. Will she grow up and be angry that you didn’t do this for her as soon as possible? Would she consent to being at risk to these illnesses?
You’re making a health decision for her whether you do it or not

I spilt my kids vaccination out, so they were more spaced out and I delayed MMR until both kids were 2.5 years old

The doctors moaned about it as it's more costly bring you back for multiple appointments over the course of the years but it's your right to choose that.

I didn't agree with 5 vaccinations in one go in such a tiny child.

@Hugasauras

You have a responsibility to keep your child safe. Vaccinations are part of that. Babies cry. They cry a lot more when they've got one of the awful diseases the immunisations protect against. Or they stop crying at all. Not getting your child the recommended immunisations does them a massive disservice and is not putting them first. You're choosing alleviating your own discomfort over the safety of your child, at the end of the day.

This.

Your dp is lucky enough to hav lived to 24 because so many of the worst illnesses HVE BEEN eradicated, or almost eradicated through everyone doing their bit by having the vaccinations.
Like a pp, some of us are old enough to remember some of the awful illnesses that dc rarely get anymore due to advances in medical science and due to responsible parents taking advantage of that research and getting their dc vaccinated.

Your baby crying for a short time, and even feeling a bit under the weather for a couple of days is nothing compared with what would happen if they contracted one of the illnesses the vaccines protect the against.

One of my dc went through a spell of crying everytime they were strapped in the car seat. As a responsible adult, I didn't think 'Oh, it makes him sad, so I'll let him just roll around the back seat', I assessed the situation, and made the call that as his parent, it was my responsibility to keep him safe. You should do the same with your lo's vaccines.

@Kszw

Thank you to you all that have actually been considerably. Instead of stating I'm doing thinking of doing this for my own comfort which isn't the case at all! Like the top comment says my child my voice! I'm her voice while she is unable to speak!! Just because she is a baby doesn't mean we have to put them through pain! My partner never had his immunisations and he is completely fine 24 years old still healthy!! Like I said I was considering not having them done after 16 week one's are done! I'm a first time mum so me asking these questions should be completely normal but some of you on here are argumentative as hell! I've got questions what your there to answer not to belittle me as a first time mother!

Thanks again to the people that actually took into consideration of my feelings as well as advising me on the right thing to do :)

That argument is the same as saying well I played chicken on the road and was fine so my child can do the same. The big issue with no having vaccination is increasing people aren’t vaccinating their kids so the number of those illnesses are increasing compared to when DH was young.

Having had to hold my 2 year old down while a doctor tried several times to get a cannula into her I wouldn’t hesitate to vaccinate. I’ve also vaccinated my youngest against chicken pox.

Please, please don't stop your child from being vaccinated op. The fact you know someone who didn't have them and is fine now is neither here nor there really. The fact that children can and do die as a direct result of not being vaccinated still stands.

Yes babies cry but they soon stop and they won't remember. The illnesses are so much worse and the side effects can be life changing and devastating e.g limb amputation.

Please get them done.

@Kszw

Thank you to you all that have actually been considerably. Instead of stating I'm doing thinking of doing this for my own comfort which isn't the case at all! Like the top comment says my child my voice! I'm her voice while she is unable to speak!! Just because she is a baby doesn't mean we have to put them through pain! My partner never had his immunisations and he is completely fine 24 years old still healthy!! Like I said I was considering not having them done after 16 week one's are done! I'm a first time mum so me asking these questions should be completely normal but some of you on here are argumentative as hell! I've got questions what your there to answer not to belittle me as a first time mother!

Thanks again to the people that actually took into consideration of my feelings as well as advising me on the right thing to do :)

I didn't have some of my vaccines op, just a standard childhood illness. I ended up in hospital seriously ill, and i have permanent reduced hearing now. Yes your child can’t consent, but they can’t consent to anything at this age yet you still do it. You do it as it’s for their own good. Kids cry, they’ll be a hell of a lot more tears than this.

My toddler cries when I put her in a car seat, would I be unreasonable to stop using it at age 2, or should I stick to the recommendations designed to keep kids safe? My parents didn't use car seats and I was never involved in an accident, so by your logic my DD should be safe climbing round the back seat while I drive down a motorway.

It's literally the same thing. Your job is to do what's best for your child, not what you think they want.

My baby has just finished their first round of vaccines.
After the 8 week ones she was poorly and ended up in paediatric A&E due to a reaction she had.
I questioned wheter I wanted to give her two more doses of vaccines given how poorly she was.
But as a mother I am responsible for her and responsible for doing everything within my power to keep her safe.
And that means taking her to the GP to be stabbed in both legs which causes tears and more vaccine reactions.
Its not been nice seeing her cry and knowing the next week she will be poorly again, but its better than her becoming very unwell because she hasnt had the jabs.

Children arent responsible for their health, the parents are and all parents want to protect their kids. A few tears and being under the weather after is better than risking contracting an illness that could have terrible circumstances.
Maybe get her dad to take her for the next set so you dont have to deal with the tears.

I just feel its so wrong she should be able to make her own decisions and until she is old enough that is what I shall do!

So you'll be waiting until she's about 14 then and able to consent to her own vaccinations? Fingers crossed she has no serious illness before then.

Well, it’s quite a risky gamble and the odds aren’t great.

I didn't agree with 5 vaccinations in one go in such a tiny child.

Why not?

OP, do a little research into the diseases the vaccinations prevent and then make your decision. Do you remember your own childhood vaccinations? Your baby won't remember the fleeting moment of pain but will benefit from the protection it gives for many years!

The reason your unvaccinated partner has been fine is mostly down to luck and the fact that the majority do vaccinate so he is benefiting from herd immunity.

My partner never had his immunisations and he is completely fine 24 years old still healthy

Ridiculous argument!!! You could use the same argument to justify pretty much anything. Baby didn't want to go in carseat? Great, just put them in the carry cot. Loads of babies survived that on the 80s, except for the ones that died in car accidents.

Yes catching the diseases you immunise against is very rare. But that's because most others are immunised. Its called herd immunity and relies on a certain percent being vaccinated. It helps protect those who can't get vaccinated for medical reasons.

Yes it is your baby, your choice. But make an informed choice. Watch newborn babies with whooping cough, look at pictures of children with bacterial meningitis, or with measles. They are really unpleasant to look at, never mind having to live through it.

I get the feeling OP won't be coming back.

I've had to hold one of mine down as they tried several times to get a cannula in due to dehydration from severe D&V. The immunisations are nothing compared to that, but once it was in she was happy to have a cuddle and can't remember it at all.
Refusing vaccinations because the crying breaks your heart is a daft reason imo but it is your baby and your choice.

I would have been livid if my parents had declined to immunise me. You are the parent. You will be consenting on your child’s behalf on all sorts of things. It is irresponsible and dangerous to decline these vaccines.

If your child is one of the very unlucky ones who ends up deaf or brain damaged after catching measles, how will you feel knowing you could have taken steps to prevent that?

I understand what your all saying and i may ask for them to be spaced out since (some) of you have mentioned that.. but stating facts about car seats and other things that don't even resemble the same thing?? Obviously I'd never take her out of a car seat that's just a ridiculous point of view!.. and playing chicken on the road? Like what goes through your minds? These don't even resemble the same thing! I came for advice if anyone had refused vaccines before?? Me personally think 3 lots of vaccine is enough for a baby never mind until she is 4 years old but as some of you have said you can ask for them to be spaced out seems like a pretty good idea! I won't apologise for my post because at the end of the day I'm a first time mum that didn't like seeing her child in pain but hehooo clearly some of ya'll don't have a heart! I'm guessing with the sounds of your attitude on here your children's immunisations wasn't so hurtful on your heart to watch them scream and suffer!! Mumsnet is for questions and advise not lectures so if your not going to be nice please don't comment at all. It took my 6 years to get my baby girl so sorry that every cry she does I cry with her, every smile she does I smile with her and sorry for my first ever experience with immunisations had scared me a little but heyhoo Maybe asking for advise is a pretty bad idea on here