Immunisations

[Kszw]

Did anyone refuse there babies immunisations after so many? Don't come at me but im considering refusing any more after her 16 week one's. After seeing her scream and cry on her 8 week one's absolutely hurt me! I've never seen my child shed tears at all and that day they was poring. Even thought im dreading her 16 week one's I think after that is enough. I just feel its so wrong she should be able to make her own decisions and until she is old enough that is what I shall do! I just think its absolute torture with out her consent. Yes I'm her mum but I feel absolutely terrible putting her in pain when she can't say no😢

It is difficult to watch them cry and see how rubbish they feel afterwards. However, as others have said, how would you feel if she then got one of the illnesses the vaccines protect against and knew that you could have prevented that?

It's great that your Partner has never caught any of the illnesses the vaccines are for but unfortunately that isn't the same for everyone and is very much survivor's bias.

After the 16 week ones the next ones aren't until 1 year. There are top up doses in the vaccine's to so if you don't then get the follow up ones, it was almost unnecessary putting them through the first lot as they lose they're not fully immune without the follow up.

Have a look in to what the vaccines protect against (as I'm sure you have been doing anyway as it sounds like you're still undecided) and perhaps speak to your GP or HV (if you get on with them, I know not everyone likes their HV, luckily we have a great one that I'd feel comfortable talking to about something like this) and tell them your concerns and see what they can offer

I've seen babies in hospital for weeks on end with whooping cough, coughing themselves blue. Nothing we could do to make them better, just support them with oxygen. I've seen children die from meningococcal sepsis, and others left scarred and with amputations. I've seen kids where the only way to stop them fitting was to anaesthetise them, from pneumococcal meningitis. I've seen a child dying, having been unable to move or speak or even smile for years, thanks to measles. All these things are now vaccine preventable.

Immunising your child is protecting them from disease, from pain, from suffering, from far more major medical interventions. We immunise babies and children because we care for them, because we want them to live, to thrive, to grow up. Because you love your child, protect her. Protect her from disease. Immunise her. Please.

OP, I think a lot of the strength of feeling you see on threads like this is due to the fact that quite a lot of us who have been parents for longer have seen our children scream and suffer in much greater pain and for much longer periods than the brief upset from their vaccinations. And we know that if there was any vaccination that would prevent that greater pain and suffering, we'd take it in a heartbeat.

The pain of blood draws and cannulas when they even suspect your child has meningitis, the pain and scarring of a bad case of chicken pox, the cannulas that go in before surgery and your toddler screaming and fighting the anaesthetic, your baby sobbing in pain and struggling to breathe with whooping cough or bronchiolitis or asthma or croup. And those are the fairly minor things. There are parents on here who have seen so much worse.

That's why so many people feel so very strongly about vaccinating children when their vaccinations are due, because they've seen that even mild versions of the alternative are so much worse than the pain caused by the vaccines.

(And from an entirely practical point of view, many vaccines are less effective in teenagers and adults than in early childhood. Putting off vaccines can increase risk.)

Thanks again for the people sending me links and giving me kind friendly advice and sharing your experiences i really appreciate that some of you on here are just stating the crying part, the crying i can cope with i just wasn't expecting such an intense cry for my first time going to the immunisations appointment. it was just really hard to watch :( @shiteh no I've never seen her she'd a tear shes such a happy baby! Yes she cries but she's never cried to the point tears are poring down her face and that's what hurt me the most! I wasn't expecting that, that's the part that broke me seeing how much it hurt her! @mrsskylerwhite a part of it was my decision after seeing how much it hurt her i just began to think is this really necessary but after ready some people experiences on here I think ill reconsider as if much rather her have a moment if weakness then a lifetime full of problems. And a part of it was my partners family saying it would probably be ok for her not to have them which put me in 2 minds about letting her have the immunisations.. @HeyBlaby im not even going to respond to your small insult to one mum to another how childish of you to try and pull another mum down! I can really tell how much you probably influence your kids to bully others!

Thanks again to the people that shared there experiences and advice with me I think I will re consider and go through with her immunisations I think ill just get them spaced out so she doesn't have to have them all at once.. :)

All babies cry when they have their primary immunisations, they will not remember them. Try to think of the good that it will do for your baby in the long run and get baby protected against these diseases. Crying for a very short while because of a vaccination, is nothing compared to suffering from Meningococcal, pneumococcal infection, diphtheria, tetanus, polio, whooping cough, hib, hep b, Measles, mumps, rubella. These vaccinations are recommended by public health England and protect our babies from these diseases.

@PurpleDaisies

Unfortunately, as a parent you sometimes need to make your children cry. It’s horrible but sometime it is absolutely necessary to keep them healthy. Would it help to think that these immunisations are one or two needles that could prevent many more and much more pain if your daughter did catch the illness?

I’ve worked with children who have been left deaf after measles. That was an extended stay in hospital, multiple operations and a lifelong disability. Thankfully, that’s rare. People have forgotten how bad these illnesses can be.

Thank you. I hate people who say these are just childhood illnesses, well no, not for some!

I just feel its so wrong she should be able to make her own decisions and until she is old enough

What if she dies before then?

Op she may well cry, it may only be from shock, or fright but it’s worth it for her not to get any preventable disease.
You’ll only feel worse then.

“a part of it was my decision after seeing how much it hurt her i just began to think is this really necessary but after ready some people experiences on here I think ill reconsider as if much rather her have a moment if weakness then a lifetime full of problems. And a part of it was my partners family saying it would probably be ok for her not to have them which put me in 2 minds about letting her have the immunisations..“

That cry is awful, goes straight to your soul. Imagine though the pain of losing her or of watching her live her life with disability, when you could have prevented that with immunisations.

Please don’t listen to your partner’s family. Take advice from people who really understand the pros and cons. Your HV or GP will be very happy to talk through your concerns.

Having her fully immunised is probably the most important thing you will ever do for your daughter.

She will never remember the momentary pain and the gains are enormous

I hope you do finish the course as she’s had the majority and it would be a waste not to have all 3 sets so she is protected.

I’m a children’s nurse so look after many children who are very sick and upset and it does break your heart for them when they are upset and no lots can’t consent to the horrible things they have to go through - bloods, cannulas, iv antibiotics, surgery, post op care etc it’s all traumatic but parents stay and cuddle and reassure them. If those parents waited until their children could consent themselves what would happen? Consent is a really tricky subject with kids, we do a lot of work prepping kids, planning care, having our play therapists, support staff involved for procedures and we are all very good at distraction. You are giving your baby protection to try and prevent illness and believe me you don’t want to have to go through some of the illness your child is being vaccinated against. Not to say she’ll never be Ill though and it’s natural as a parent to want to protect your child from pain and harm but sometimes you can’t and you have to make difficult decisions for your child’s health, this is one you can make for protection. She’ll still be a smiley happy girl once she’s calmed down and had cuddles and fun with you. Take care op, your child is very lucky to have a mum who cares so much about her

Glad to see you've taken other poster's advice on board OP, I hope you do go ahead with the rest of the immunisations.

If it helps, my DS had his 16 week immunisations recently and after a brief cry (about 20 seconds), he was fine and by the time we were back in the car he was smiling and giggling I've found that he dealt with each one better than the last!

@Iamkmackered1979 Thank you she is my miracle baby! I am going to finish the course I mean I suppose I've experienced her tense cry now so I know what I'm expecting next time, it just threw me off a little thats all I didn't like seeing her like that I burst out crying while she was crying and again when I got to my partner when he picked us up! Waiting 6 years to conceive my daughter I would do anything to help her! I don't like how some of you question that just because i asked for advice on immunisations which in my defence im going to have questions about since my partner never had his.. but little of you didn't take that into consideration. Instead of educating me you all decided to belittle me instead!
I've waited a long time to be a mum and to care for such a young human being she is my whole world and more! I just didn't want to put her through something that wasn't necessary but thank you to everyone that boosted my confidence as a mum to go ahead and protect her even more! I appreciate all you lovely woman so much :) again thank you

Just think of it as a surprise cry

I mean we get what an injection is and they say sharp scratch and we might go "ow"
Babies don't understand the words and can't say ow, so it's more of a shocked cry as they aren't expecting it!