The 2 (or more?!) Under 2 Support Thread!

[GrrrlWith2Boys]

Post your woes (or joys) here if you're currently tackling 2 kids under 2 (please say i'm not alone!)

DS1 is super wingey today and driving me batty...the slightest thing and he's whining and crying.

Have managed a 10 min walk with pushchair to get out of house. DS1 watching far too much TV, i haven't brushed my hair and the dog won't stop barking.

I need some gin.

So glad you're still here. In danger of losing the thread having taken the weekend off (too busy getting DD and DS down to london on the train to visit old friends who also have young kids -- don't tend to visit any other kinds of friends these days).

We survived pretty well (but I couldn't have done it without DP's help), so I've finally given in and will (hopefully) have a second hand double buggy by tomorrow. Do any of you survive without one? I've managed with DD walking, or DS in the sling so far, but sometimes I just need them both strapped in. (Found I couldn't run after a escaping toddler with a bub in a sling, nor deal with the tantrum afterwards.)

RFCMummy I like the help from DD too do you get the 'run away with the clean nappy' kind of help as well?

Hope your DD is ok Hazeyjane.

Damn -- really want a glass of wine to celebrate getting the xmas tree up while DS slept, but I can't for another week (now on the fifth prescription of antibiotics post-c-section and these ones definitely don't go with drink (, and of those of you with one))

Sorry hazeyjanedeer x-post.

Glad to hear that DD is not too bad.

Enjoy the sherry

That's good news hazeyjane, enjoy your sherry [bleurgh!]

I am so glad I have my double buggy, it is an old second hand as well but I know what yopu mean, sometimes you just need both hands free and unfettered! DD2 got kicked a few times before I figured that out!

I am off to my mums this weekewnd so am starting to panic about packing already, silly really as it hardly matters if they don't have 20 changes of clothes but I just don't want to need anything on our first trip with 2! Am thinking I will take DD2's spare bouncy chair and leave that with my mum for next time....any other tips?

Just realised how deperate it sounds to be drinking sherry! It was really sweet, so I had a nice cup of tea instead - oh dear I seem to be turning into my nan.

Am going to think of some tips for going away with 2 under 2, but then come to think of it, my 2 usually spend the whole time away screaming, and once my dh spent half the night driving dd1 around the Purbecks, trying to get her to go to sleep, so maybe my tips won't be very helpful!

Tomorrow is another day

OK so I'm not too about the sherry which you didn't quite drink. But don't turn into your nan just yet (although she's probably a very nice woman). (My nans had 4 and 5 kids each, so they'd wonder why on earth this thread was needed!) (I think the one who had 5 kids might have had a sherry though, or an advocaat but she was born in 1905.)

yesterday was a mixed bag- DS2 screamed for 30mins in the day, shortly after Ds1 had been crying hysterically for no reason i could see. The only thing that cheered him up was the offer of brushing his teeth!

DH and i are hoping to go to London for the night for a film festival in May, and it'll be the first time i'll have left them both overnight (DS2 only 6wks old) although DS1 has stayed a few times and Grandparents overnight. DH suggested we go for 2 nights last night...i was at first quite scared of leaving them both for two days. Then i was rather excited- what a terrible mother i am!

Imagine...nice undies, getting roaring drunk, no fitting meals round babies.....

Ooh 2 nights away! How nice. Tried to persuade DP that I should go to a conference in the USA, but I think he thought I was joking (would be good for my career honest!). I've only even had one night out with DP since DD came along (we don't know a babysitter) and one night away for work (both were great) In fact the longest child-free time I've had was in hospital before I had DS -- not fun, and having another baby would be a pretty extreme was of getting time on my own (or on my own with DP).

On another subject -- I now have a double buggy (although DS is a little too young to use it). It looks useful even though it hasn't left the hall yet.)

Hello all. Justabout, that doesn't work if you have a phil and teds cause they don't see the other one.

Hazeyjane, shame on you with sherry but good decision with spooks, wasn't it good.

We are at grandma's tonight so spreading the load. We have had a good day again today, so I think we are due a bad night !!

Good to hear about the lump hazeyjane, you will have to keep us posted.

Anyway, off for a bit of mums cooking and a glass of wine.

Excellent. I look forward to hitting the streets. Think I might soup it up and paint it with 'go faster' stripes (sort of "pimp my buggy"...)

Justabout, just read your AIBU thread. What a bummer. Kind of sickeneing when that happens. Dh's car got hit by a bus one night whilst we were asleep. Small damage but the car had to go away to be repaired. Had a hire car and two hours before it was due back, someone took the wing mirror off it ! 150 quid excess to pay. Two days after I drove into my mums car !!

Anyway dd2 awake from 4am today . Not bad day though.

Talking about holidays, we are taking both dd's to Aus for a month in march. We are planning on moving out to Melbourne in Dec next year so need to go on fact finding mission. We are very excited but not looking forward to flight !

4am, lulalullabye? I take it you're in bed yourself by now. I was fairly in the other extreme as DD slept until 11am (then said she wanted to sleep more -- I thought she was ill, but I think the arrival of molars just kept her awake last night).

So we went to meet Santa at the playgroup party after all (but even though she had fun, I suspect she'd have been as happy playing on the wheelchair ramp outside )

Hope you had a better day justabout.

Can't post more -- DS is puking and writhing with reflux again

Good morning
Hope you are having a better day since your crappy day on Wed, Justabout.
Lulalullabye, I'm so impressed about you're planned trip to Australia, with dd's. I get worked up about a night away in London! Dh and I were talking about going to Paris for a couple of days next year, because it seems like an age since having a holiday. Can't decide whether Paris would be a stupid idea or not though.
Can't remember how old your ds with reflux is Chaotica, is it something they grow out of like colic?
Having a real go with the flow day, hopefully the flow will take me to the cafe for hot chocolate and a pastry.

Hello, today nice day. Dh off work so he got up during the night and fed dd. dd2 asleep, dd1 at nursery, peace.

Hazeyjane, we are in aus for a month, so we have rented a house for the duration, which means washing machine, tumble dryer and 3 bedrooms. Not cheap but essential !

Chaotica, my friend had twins i July and her ds has really bad reflux. Was fed through an ng tube for a while. Don't know how she copes with both, she is one tough woman !

Glad better days are being had. DS has been sleeping, so DD and I have been drawing pictures and playing with duplo (sometimes I love staying at home to play).

Unfortunately, DS managed to sleep peacefully through the GP's appt. which didn't really demonstrate quite how much pain he's in every time he's had a feed. So nice tho' the GP was, I think the whole thing really missed the point and I just came away with more advice (which I've already tried ) and some more infant gaviscon -- which just seems to give him something else to sick up. Oh joy... (My better clothes are all still hiding in the wardrobe from when the pregnancy started to show.) He's 11 weeks so hopefully he will grow out of it soon (DS, not the GP ), but if he doesn't I'll have to go back and hassle the doctors again. At least does sleep sometimes (and he's not losing weight), but even DD seems to feel sorry for him, so it must be bad.

Lulalullabye -- my friend has taken young children to australia and back at least twice now and says the flight is fine (they sleep, apparently). The total failure to understand time differences is another matter...

Holidays sound good -- but I think I'll try to get through xmas first (want to go away while DS still fits in the moses basket).

hi all, glad everyone's having a good day. We have too, took dd to see Santa, she howled her head off but wouldn't stop talking about him afterwards! She's totally into Christmas this year, she actually has a huge crush on Santa and holds imaginary conversations with him all the time! so cute..

Lula, how exciting about the trip, sure you'll have a great time although I agree about the time difference - dd normally never gets over it until we're home again!

Ds still suffering with teething which means I'm suffering too with lack of sleep - every night this week he's been waking 4 or 5 times every night and then awake from 5:30. He's cut one now though, hooray! but the other one is on its way, is there no end to it...

Hello all, now i am not excited about holiday. I can now imagine being up at two in the morning with a toddler and a 7mth old, oh joy. At least dh will be there the whole time.

Just about, we have friends in Singapore, so we have a stopover for 3 nights on way back so that should be good.

Rony, when are you due ?

Chaotica, another friend of mine had dd with reflux and at one point she counted and she had 86 bibs !!!

Is everybody ready for Christmas ? I just have presents for nursery nurses to buy. What do you buy them ??

Thank you for starting this thread! it is soo hard with two close together. Mine DS's r now 2 1/2 and 1 1/2 and have just learned how to bundle and fight properly, I am no longer a mother but a referee!

The best advice I can give is - Seperate them in any which way you can.

Mine are now 4 and 3 and have had a hell of a week with them fighting. Nealy banged their bloody heads together this afternoon as they were fighting cos ds said dd smelt like poo.

86 bibs! I need that many. (I am using bibs meant for 2 yr olds) Just seem to keep the washing machine running all the damn time.

good name, monkeybutler.

OK - I admit it: DD never even wore a bib until she was weaned onto solids. In fact I dared to wonder why people put little babies in bibs... Boy am I paying for that now

Chaotica my ds2 has reflux and the gaviscon has really helped. I also find feeding him upright and keeping him upright for a good 15 - 20 mins after each feed helps. Sorry if you knwo this already but its helped us! I too never understood whyu you needed bibs for babies as ds1 didn't need them either!!!!

Can't remember who was talking about going away? We have been away loads for 1 and 2 nights when we just had ds1. He has a great time with grandparents and I don't think it makes you a bad mum in the slightest! In fact I'm jealous!!!!

Well we had fun at pizza express yesterday - usually works well. Ds1 is actually pretty good when out and loves the food there and ds2 usually settles in his sling. But oh no - he woke yesterday as our starters arrived so I was doing the baby jig trying to settle him as he howled. Finally went for a walk and returned to ds1 chucking a strop and refusing to eat his pasta (which he normally guzzles like he's not been fed for a month). So dh and I lugged the wine doewn and bailed after the starters! Never mind eh - you win some you lose some!!!!

Oh and hazeyjane great news the lump your dd had doesn't seem to be anythiong serious...