The 2 (or more?!) Under 2 Support Thread!

[GrrrlWith2Boys]

Post your woes (or joys) here if you're currently tackling 2 kids under 2 (please say i'm not alone!)

DS1 is super wingey today and driving me batty...the slightest thing and he's whining and crying.

Have managed a 10 min walk with pushchair to get out of house. DS1 watching far too much TV, i haven't brushed my hair and the dog won't stop barking.

I need some gin.

Oops -- just realised I called it 'beebies' like DD does, not 'CBeebies' (Spending too much time with a toddler )

chaotica lol, my dd1 calls it beebies as well. She also doesn't do s's so soup is oup, sit it etc.

I think I will get a cleaner. Planning on doing one night shift a week after xmas, so will have a bit of spare cash. What a treat a clean house ! Do you have to tidy up before they come ?

All presents wrapped but NOT under the tree. Tried it with a couple and the little fingers were in there within the hour.

We've had a manic afternoon - 1 of DS1's friends came to play and have supper. Whilst the kiddies loved it the mess is unreal. Every single toy out, supper things all over the kitchen... sigh... worth it though for some conversation with the other mummy and for DS1 being completely occupied all afternoon! Only a couple of meltdowns towards the end of the afternoon - major exhaustion i think! DS2 thinks its great though and just laughs at their antics.

DH been on a xmas lunch all afternoon. Just sent me an email saying his boss is still in the office and he needs to finish some work. Why be out all afternoon then???

Lula whereabouts in London where you? We are SW nappyvalley. I love never having to get in the car for anything! We keep talking about moving slightly further out but I would struggle without a shop for emergencies right at the end of the street !

Woke up to ice all over everything and a blanket of freezing fog could hardly see DS for the layers of clothes I wrapped him in (not used to this at all when DD was his age it was over 30 degrees for a month...) Sort of shortened my xmas shopping expedition, so I'll have to make do with what I could get locally (I can always blame the baby). Must wrap presents, but I agree with you lulalullabye -- best not put them under the tree (actually, I'm surprised the tree is still there).

We don't do 's' in our house either, or DD doesn't, or 'f'; both become 'h' - so I was driving along with DD insisting 'hymn hymn' yesterday and was about to contact the local vicar before I realised she wanted to go for a swim (which she hasn't since DS came along -- must get DP on the case).

Hi Tinselgrrrl... just read your other thread: aww - don't feel guilty. You tried (and succeeded for quite a while ). And it sounds like so much hassle to express and feed, might as well just make up formula. Lets face it, DS2 won't care and you'll have more time with both of them and less frustration.

Have fun at your party, hotlipsmummy. Have a drink for all of us...

Sometimes think of ditching bfeeding DS (nearly had to twice already because of antibiotics), so it wouldn't nearly always be me he threw up on (that's when I'm feeling sorry for myself not him ). Then I remember that I'm useless at sterilising anything, simply not to be trusted, and I have it easy.

chaotica: thanks

Hey Tinselgrrl, have just read your thread too, sorry you feel so bad. I expressed/bottlefed/attempted to b'feed dd1 for the first couple of months, because she had so many problems latching on (turned out she had a tongue tie, and thrush) - it was so tiring, and hard, physically and emotionally. When I switched to formula completely I felt dreadful, and so guilty, but I think we were all so much happier as a result. With dd2 I tried b'feeding but had similar problems, not helped by dd1 pulling dd2's head off every time I tried to feed her (ouch!). I stopped almost straight away, because I just didn't want to put us all (esp dd1) through all the misery I had gone through before. Since having dd1 I think I've realised that guilt comes with the job, as long as we can balance it out by having as much fun as possible along the way!
(sorry, should probably have put that on the other thread, got a bit carried away)

All the talk of London is making me jealous, I used to live in Ealing, and now we live in a small village, I miss the excitement!

Don't know about dd1 not saying specific letters, but in our house, biscuits are 'siski's', and cup is 'cock'

Hazeyjane - Lol at 'cock' -- must make for some interesting trips out, or do you just not let her drink?

And I miss London too. Sometimes. And then I realise that most of my london friends have scarpered aswell, and I have two kids (so being able to afford a house with a garden near some countryside is worth it after all). So the occasional visit does me fine. Going on sunday (I hope) for a child-friendly party.

I have been trying to join this thread for the past week but have been too busy trying to settle DS to get on!

I have DD 16mo and DS 2mo, and am just about coping. 2 days ago I had a scratched eyeball from DD1 and spent 3 hours in casualty with DS accompanying me for feeds. Today I woke up with a sickness bug and couldnt get out of bed, luckily DH was off and sorted the 2 out until DD had naptime. Im sick of being told I look under the weather, argh.

We were sitting on the landing floor tonight with the 2 both crying, trying to get some variation on different rooms in the house, waiting for bathtime, and both just looked at each other and laughed. Surely it doesnt get any harder than this???

Make mine a massive virtual Baileys, this is the 3rd sober xmas in a row....

hi Cazwa -- glad you could join us (I keep posting when i can because (like everyone on this thread) I can never tell when i'll get another chance.)

(Like the idea of hanging out on the landing -- I must try it sometime.)

Hi everyone, just come across you all. I have DS 6months and just found out I am pregnant again no idea how far along but LMP Sep 2006! Please tell me it wont all be bad am petrified.

congratulations, oops...

it's not all bad -- much good in fact

Do you think we should list the good things here to cheer ourselves up when times are hard? Ive just had a killer night, didnt get more than 1 hours consistent sleep with them both waking up.

Someone else start a list, Im so tired I cant think of anything. Oh hang on, getting nappies over and done with in a short space of time.

Can I just interrupt with a bad thing? Has anyone ever tried to wrap presents when there's a baby screaming and the toddler wants to play with the sellotape? (Oh, of course you have -- that's why you're reading this thread... )

There are good things... the nappies for one (oh no, already had that one) I promise to think of more while I give DS a bath...

Bad night for me too -- one woke the other, so I didn't take the present-wrapping well

Good evening all. Party went well last night and in laws here today so that has helped the hangover! I worked out that this is the first xmas in 4 yrs that I have been able to drink (pg, bfeeding and then pg again!) so am bloody well going to make the most of it as no doubt I will be pg again next year - will be just my luck!!

As for good things for having the DCs close together the best has to be how they will play together - I am just reaching that stage, total heroworship of his older brother by DS2, Side splitting giggles from them etc. Makes it worthwhile as (currently !) they love each other loads.

In laws staying until tomorrow evening then my mum comes on Sunday for xmas (my 2 brothers and sister coming on xmas eve) so bit of a revolving door over the next week but DS1 LOVES the attention s is v. happy.

Festive cheer to everyone!

oops-

it'll all be fine. Yes, there'll be days where you feel like killing them (or yourself) but they are few and far between. If there's anything lovelier than watching your DH/DP adore your babies, it's watching your older baby adore your baby.

Physically it's demanding too, but just think- in a few years there'll be no more nappies or sleepless nights, and they'll be a similar stages of play / school / development etc, there'll be no getting used to sleep then going backwards for a new baby again.

It might be the wine talking, but i f**king love my boys. We had a visitor tonight who is almost 70, and has no kids (or grandkids obviously) and was looking whistfully at mine. Despite the challenges (or maybe because of them) i adore my babies and i'm proud i made the little buggers.

Its funny how the younger one often seems so much more mature than the older one, dd1 will be throwing a huge tantrum, whilst dd2 sits watching with a wry smile, I forget that in a short while she to will be throwing herself around and being a little drama queen like her sister.
Congratulations Oops..I think like most things it's more scary thinking about having 2 under 2, than actually getting on with it day to day.
Have spent the day trying to think of the good things, but as I have been worrying about doing bath/bed on my own tonight, I was finding it hard to come up with anything!
As it turned out it didn't go too badly (touch wood things are quiet up there at the moment!), and a 'good thing' happened after bathtime, which was my lovely girls lying on the towel holding hands, whilst I coconut oiled them. I hope so much that they get on together as they grow up, it will certainly make all the hard work worth it.
Oh and Chaotica, I tried to wrap a present today, dashed out of the room to get some scissors, heard the words "sticky,sticky"and came back to find dd1 had unravelled nearly a whole roll of sellotape, it was on the cat, dd2, the Christmas tree, and stuck in her hair, it usually takes me 5 minutes to find the end, and yet she managed it in the 5 seconds that I was out of the room - amazing

Oops, welcome. I had a good day today as dd1 in nursery, but yesterday was a killer. I have decided to write new words for wind the bobbin up, and re call it (are you ready)....

Wind the mummy up, wind the mummy up, push, push, clap, clap, clap !!!!!

I am sure you can all relate to that.

Dd2 slept all night last night. She has been having a bad week and dh offered to get up with her and she slept all bloody night. I am pleased but also dissapointed it wasn't my night !

Oops, I think by the time your baby comes in June you will have mamy tips on how to cope, whether they work or not.

One best thing from me is that when I pick dd1 up from nursery, all the other children gather round dd2 in her car seat, and dd1 very proudly points and says her sisters name. Very cute.

Like your new words Lulalullabye -- it's one of dd's favourite songs at the moment, so I might well find myself using them.

And, hazeyjane, sounds like your sellotape experience was worse than mine (but I have most of my presents still to wrap...) [festive panic emoticon!]

Can't say my youngest one seems more mature than DD -- but he is only 12 weeks (give him a couple of months... )

Tinselgrrl I haven't read your other thread but I am ff ds2 since he was 6 weeks old. He used to bf pretty much constantly much like ds1 did. With ds1 that was fine -I would settle on the sofa with my laptop, telly control, phone and book and chill while he fed and slept. Not really possible to do tha with a toddler so we stopped and switched to ff. Its transformed ds2 into a much happier baby - probably because his mummy isn't stressing herself out all the time about not having time for ds1.

Welcome to the new ones to the thread - sorry can't remember your names but there were 2 of you!

To the lady expecting another - get yourself a decent handsfree sling - I have a hugabub www.hugabub.com/ and its bloody great - means I can hold ds2 who needs cuddling to sleep and still play with ds1. And get myself food and even go to the loo!!!

Good things...

Ds1 kissing his little brother goodnight.
Ds1 putting both arms up in the air to 'hands up if you love ds2'
Ds1 coming and giving me and ds1 (in his hugabub sling) a hug.

I'm with tinselgrrl - I f*cking love my boys too - they are bloody hard work and sometimes I feel like hiding under the duvet with my fingers in my ears and ignoring them. But not very often - mostly I just look at them in wonder that I (with a little help from dh ) have managed to produce 2 little things so precious and perfect. Magic!

Hope to be on here before Christmas but if not hope you all have a wonderful time and make special memories to add to that good things list!