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I have nothing to offer my child and it makes me feel like a disgusting loser.

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LauraHilcliff · 02/01/2021 19:49

I've been lurking around these forums for a while now, but this is the first time I've ever posted. I have nobody to talk to in real life and feel like I'm about to explode.

I'm 31 and my life is a mess. I have done absolutely nothing in life to be proud of. Please don't say things like “oh, you have a beautiful child, that's an accomplishment” NO! To me, that is not an accomplishment, not in the sligthtest. No offense to anybody on here, but any loser without fertility issues can get knocked up. I have no real career and it makes me feel utterly ashamed of myself. I have a useless degree in media studies (it's extremely difficult to get jobs in that industry without connections, I've lost all interest in it anyway, so it doesn't matter anymore).

So for the past nine years, I've been working mainly admin/customer service jobs and have attempted to start two different businesses, both failed. Right now, I'm an admin assistant at a dental clinic. Yes, I know it's honest work that pays my bills, but I feel like I've wasted my life and all of my potential. I feel like I'm rotting away from boredom at that desk. Everyday all I do at work is type letters, photocopy, clean the office, file, and bring envelopes to the post office.

I have one child, a daughter aged 2. I feel like I can't give her a good, fulfilling life. Yes, I can support her financially (healthy food, clean clothes, toys, and fun days out), but it's not enough. When she grows up there's no way she's going to be proud of me because I'm such an average-Joe, there's absolutely nothing special or admirable about me. I'm unattractive and don't look good no matter what I wear. No, a makeover won't help because my actual face is the problem. I'm naturally slim, so it's not like I need to lose weight to look better, I just don't look good.

I know it's sounds stupid, but I was bored in a grocery store a few months back and picked up a gossip magazine. Inside, there was some article about celebrity mothers and their lookalike daughters (Kate moss, Catherina Zeta Jones, Vanessa Paradis, Cindy Crawford, and a few others I can't member). All the daughters (who have had modelling and acting careers handed to them) were pictured next to their mothers, looking so proud to be seen with their gorgeous, rich, and talented mothers. I know it's bad to compare yourself to others and that everybody has their own problems, but compared to these women I AM NOTHING. When my daughter grows up, there's no way she's going to be proud of the fact her mother is a low-earning, unattractive and dowdy woman. She'll also probably resent me because I have no influential connections to help her out in whatever career she choses. She's going to have to go through the same boring bullshit I went through.

I genuinely regret having her because I've been reading Reddit's anti-natalism forum. If you don't know what it is, basically it's the belief that having children is wrong and that you're just committing them to a life of work, struggle and suffering. I've had depression and low-self esteem since my mid-teens, so having a baby was selfish as hell. I really wish I could go back. I don't have a strong sense of love for her. I take care of her and accept responsibility, but I don't get excited to watch her grow or anything.

My pregnancy was unplanned and I honestly don't know what possessed me to keep the baby. I've never wanted children because (1) Just not interested (2) I don't think life is a gift, it's more of a long, depressing, stressful curse (3) I don't have money, a good personality or good looks, so my child will inheriate nothing good from me.

The child's father, my boyfriend of six years, talked me into continuing the pregnancy. I wish I hadn't of listened to him. He kept saying that having a family would be nice, and that this is probably my only chance to have a baby because I was in my late 20s at the time and that if I aborted I'd regret it later when I'm old and childless. He said I'd grow to love the child, and that we could all live together in the suburbs (in the will, he inheriated a house from his dead uncle last year) I was very conflicted and deep down feared that everything he said was true, that'd I'd regret an abortion, so like a fool, I let my emotions blind me, and now I've come to realize I've destroyed my life.

I'm bored out of my mind and live in a state of constant apathy. I can't stand living in the suburbs(it's depressing, all my neighbours are elderly expect for a family with out of control kids who go around screeching and vandalizing all day); I feel so trapped. I told my boyfriend that I want to move somewhere else, but he just gets annoyed and talks about how good we have it (no mortgage, no rent) and that if we were to move somewhere else we'd waste all out money on rent. I suggested selling the house, and he roared at me and sulked for almost two weeks, he called me a selfish bitch.

I don't feel comfortable living in his house because it is HIS house. We're not married, so I have no real say in anything. I could be kicked out at any moment. We had an awful argument two weeks after the baby was born. He insisted that I go with him to the funeral of his uncle (not the one who gave him the house). I refused and said I didn't feel comfortable going to the funeral of somebody I'd never even met. He kept dismissing me, and kept saying things like, “oh, you're going” and “you'll be going, alright.” I honestly can't stand him sometimes. He talks to me in such a condescending tone, like teacher dealing with a bold student. At this time, I was still recovering from my c-section had my lower abdomen was very stiff, sore, and achy. I was still struggling to stand straight. I explained that I didn't want to drive to the opposite side of the country, and that surely he could understand why.

I think I'll stop talking now. I know it's long, sorry. Thanks to anyone who read the whole thing. Any advice is welcome.

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Funneth · 02/01/2021 21:37

I'm sorry you feel like this OP. For what it's worth you at least sound quite intelligent and articulate, which is a lot more than some people are. You have had depression and it sounds very much like you tend towards negative thought patterns. In some ways teh whole of life is depressing for everyone, but I hope you can find something that keeps you interested and happy. Please don't compare yoursrlf to others so much, there really is no point to it when everyone in the world has some issues.

TeachesOfPeaches · 02/01/2021 21:38

It's okay to be average. You have a home, a child, you're with your child's dad, you have a job. Some people never manage to achieve all of this in their entire lives.

AuntyJack · 02/01/2021 21:39

Yeah looks like defacto partners do not have the same rights as married partners. Now I see why people keep urging others on mumsnet to marry if they have a child with somebody.
www.theguardian.com/money/2004/dec/06/divorce.politics

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Terracottasaur · 02/01/2021 21:40

Reddit is full of toxic teenage edgelords - don’t give it too much headspace Flowers

MsTSwift · 02/01/2021 21:41

Op I lived near Gwyneth and saw with my own eyes her children eating crisps and drinking coke at the local council soft play centre while she waxed lyrical in magazines about mung beans. It’s all pr bollocks to sell films - come on you are smarter than that x

Mrscutesmummy · 02/01/2021 21:44

@MsTSwift

Op I lived near Gwyneth and saw with my own eyes her children eating crisps and drinking coke at the local council soft play centre while she waxed lyrical in magazines about mung beans. It’s all pr bollocks to sell films - come on you are smarter than that x
Ha ha I knew it! Grin
SueDeNimm · 02/01/2021 21:46

Ugh. I hear you. Ok so firstly it is what it is for now. Things you have in your favour are youth and intelligence. I started a successful business in my mid 40s and changed career successfully in my late 30s. I have no degree and I had no direct experience in the new career and none at all in my current business. I got out of my awful rut thanks to Prozac. The other SSRIs were ok but prozac was a whole different game (and I lost weight!)

So that's step one as you are clearly depressed.

Step two is to start thinking outside the box. If you are outgoing and brave sales can be great. I went into high level headhunting and loved it. Just don't do anything too girly as it's badly paid. IT sales business to business can be incredibly lucrative and you can work your way up quickly. It's not just about degrees or having to work in a boring job. Forget about the model/influencer route they don't make money. I advertised for a web admin person anc was inundated with useless cvs from social media 'influencers'.

And once that's under way ditch the loser and get out of the burbs. It's no life for a young woman. He sounds like a twat and you are young enough to meet someone much better even with a child.

And FGS get off social media snd Reddit. Slebby kids are super fucked up and this ridiculous idea that you have to look a certain way to even be a person is a joke. It's your depression talking.

sproutburger · 02/01/2021 21:59

Reddit is full of shite posted by single men in their 30s with gravy stains down their sweatshirts, living in their mum's back bedroom. Ignore.

Who'd want a celebrity mum, dolled up to be a mini-clone and always under public scrutiny to never have spots and always say the right thing and never be photographed picking your nose or misbehaving? Sod that!

You sound really depressed. Can you make a plan for the future for some direction? Anti-depressants or more social contact for a bit of variety (I understand the bored stiff bit and how much it can get you down)

PenguinIce · 02/01/2021 22:04

You sound depressed, have you spoken to anyone in real life about this, a gp or family/friends?

And trust me if you love and care for your dc they will be proud of you. My teen ds is very proud of the fact that I make the best bacon and egg toasties he has ever tasted, tells all his friends and everything. You would think I had won an Oscar the way he goes on 🤣.

Be kind to yourself 💐

whataboutbob · 02/01/2021 22:06

@MsTSwift

Op I lived near Gwyneth and saw with my own eyes her children eating crisps and drinking coke at the local council soft play centre while she waxed lyrical in magazines about mung beans. It’s all pr bollocks to sell films - come on you are smarter than that x
Thanks ms swift this has made my day. All that macrobiotic bollocks.
stovetopespresso · 02/01/2021 22:09

op sorry to hear this totally agree get off Reddit! could you use any spare cash during this mortgage and rent-free time to do a part-time course in something you find interesting or inspiring maybe? that might help lighten your boredom and get a different perspective.yes I know it would be hard work in the evenings but still, if you focused you could study weekends and evenings? then this might lead in to different career opportunities....sorry I dont know if you wanted solutions or sympathy, I have lots of sympathy for your position too, I'm sure you're a great mum and am full of admiration for you and your struggle. 💐

parsnipsnotsprouts · 02/01/2021 22:10

There's a ton to unpack here.
Since I had my daughter I've given up a good job and become a sahm. I'm not exactly a mover and shaker but I genuinely think she adores me and I don't expect her to stop loving me as she gets older. Children want love and security in a mother not a career.
You sound depressed in the extreme so I would get yourself to your gp and ask for some citalopram which will take the edge off and help you feel less immersed in all these very self destructive thoughts. When you feel a bit stronger you need to make a plan to get rid of the shitty boyfriend and get a place for you and your dd. You may find you start to enjoy her a lot more without the weight of him around your neck. 2 is still quite a tricky age as well. A few more months and you will just get to the part when she will become a lot more fun abd you might just fall in love with her.
Get off those weird forums too. Children are a delight despite all the hard work

katy1213 · 02/01/2021 22:13

Surely with a media studies degree, you can see through that celeb twaddle in OK! or whatever you're reading. Those pictures are staged; they're acting out a role of perfect mum/perfect daughter because that's what their publicist tells them is good for their image. The only difference from any other Insta-mum is that there's more money in it.
You sound bored; would you consider doing another degree?

whataboutbob · 02/01/2021 22:13

Instead of celebrity mags, why not read Mommy Dearest? Or reflect on Judy garland as a mother. I’m sure you know that plenty of successful singers/ actors have had kids who have ended up badly ( or dead) . Often an average/ good enough parent is much better than a stunningly beautiful or rich parent. The low self esteem and maybe depression is more likely to be a problem. Please seek help for this. There is lots of evidence that being raised by a depressed parent is harmful long term.

Jennygentle · 02/01/2021 22:14

Blimey, OP. Your daughter won’t give a stuff what job you do. You’re her mum, her everything. Most people are average, that’s what it means!
I agree that you sound depressed.

Please consider ending your relationship, which is clearly bringing you very little of value. Stop reading that toxic shite on Reddit.

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dublingirl66 · 02/01/2021 22:19

As someone who went to oxbridge, first in my year , well paid job

It really does. Not matter

For me it means nothing
And for my daughter aged two it DEF means sod all

She wants a happy , healthy mother
Who is not stressed

I'm working on these three things xxxx

pringlebells · 02/01/2021 22:19

You're partner not you, sorry.

dramallama7 · 02/01/2021 22:20

Reddit is full of shite posted by single men in their 30s with gravy stains down their sweatshirts, living in their mum's back bedroom. Ignore.*

^ this!
*
Please step away from that toxic website. I can assure you your daughter will absolutely not resent you or be ashamed of you for being an 'average joe'. My mum has worked as a sales assistant in a drugstore since I was born and I couldn't love her anymore if I tried, I think she is amazing and I would be totally lost without her. However, if you yourself wants to change your career it's never too late, you're still very young. Is there anything particularly that interests you and you can see yourself doing? As pp mentioned, it's also worth speaking to your GP to get further help if your feeling depressed which sounds possible and maybe they can point you in the right direction for further help with your gambling?

Eileithyiaa · 02/01/2021 22:31

Is it r/childfree on Reddit? If so, the best thing to do in the short-term is unfollow that sub. It's so toxic, it's even known throughout Reddit as being toxic.

Don't let those fools fill your head up with bullshit op.

peasoup8 · 02/01/2021 22:40

Op I lived near Gwyneth and saw with my own eyes her children eating crisps and drinking coke at the local council soft play centre while she waxed lyrical in magazines about mung beans.

Hahaha... good one.

tara66 · 02/01/2021 22:53

There is no point in projecting so much negativity. They say even if one pretends to be cheerful, happy and positive with not a bad word to say about anything - it actually lifts one's mood and one feels better. Of course you feel awful if you are constantly seeing yourself as such a loser. Change your attitude. You're more likely to get a better job as a happy person than a miserable one. What does the misery acheive?Nothing at all. Pretend to be happy. A good sense of humour is a great life saver too. Your child needs a happy, cheerful parent. There is always someone worse off than oneself remember.

Funneth · 02/01/2021 23:10

Out of curiosity I just spent a little while reading some of the antinatalism subreddits, and I am left feeling quite entertained. I think that this sort of argument is interesting, in a philosophical way, but I can't help but get the sense that the people who engage in such discussion over time have little going on that would give them something more fulfilling to do. You're a bright woman OP, depressed or not, and you owe it to yourself to find something that makes you happy. Easier said than done I know, but I hope you at least know that you deserve it. As for your daughter, you have cared for her so far and you are thoughtful enough to have considered what it is that you can give her. I'd say try not to worry too much, as long as she has a stable start to life it's more than a lot of people get. Also, are you a talkative or otherwise expressive person? Just asking as sometimes intellectual people are a bit too quiet for their own good and could benefit both themselves and others by sharing a bit more about what they're thinking.

Flackattack · 03/01/2021 10:26

@LauraHilcliff hope you have had a chance to read all the comments. How are you feeling today?

evenBetter · 03/01/2021 11:32

auntyjack yep, unmarried couples have zero legal protections, you have to opt in to having them, by choosing marriage. The only protection a single couple has is whatever they signed for their tenancy/mortgage, if any. Sadly, many people believe the common law myth without doing any basic research and are then shocked to find they’re up shit creek when the boyfriend dies/ditches them.

...good luck, OP, I’m an AN myself, so no advice apart from the fact that your boyfriend is a piece of shit that should be removed from your life ASAP.

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