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What do other grand-parents do with your children on the days they take care of them?

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Superrover · 10/10/2019 19:47

I was unsure whether to put this under parenting or childcare options.
However, I'm getting increasingly frustrated by my inlaws who take care of DC for 1 day a week when we're at work.

He has allergies which need considering and a nice routine which keeps him settled and they have already given him an allergy food in the 6 months he's been going to them and they can't seem to alter their day to suit him at all.

He naps after lunch but they will invite visitors over after lunch time when he needs a sleep and just let him sleep for 30 minutes in the pushchair so they can spend the rest of the time showing him off to visitors. He comes home cranky and we have a terrible night. Some days, they just run errands all day and he's sat in a carseat having a snooze here and there instead of his usual 1.5 hour afternoon nap.

They don't prepare decent meals and I've had to speak to them about not giving cereal for both breakfast and lunch. I have offered to provide his food, but they were offended by the idea.

I have suggested 3 toddler groups within 2 miles of their home that they could take him to in the morning, take him home for lunch, sleep in the afternoon. They complained about the group they tried and haven't been to another. MIL will go and get her hair/nails done on the one day they look after him so he's left with his grandpa whilst she does her own thing on occasion.

I have repeatedly asked DH to communicate DSs needs,but either he's not doing so or they're not listening. DS spent dinner time this evening in a temper as he was so tired and wouldn't eat, which means I'll be having to breastfeed him during the night if he wakes hungry, something I'm trying to stop.

I'm getting angry to the point I have argued with DH about it this evening, he argues that all is great because "atleast they do more" than my mother (who works full time).

Also, their days can be very chaotic and I don't think jam-packed days of shops, errands, visiting relatives etc is particularly good for DS, or them as they seem to lose track of time and I'm not convinced they can watch him closely enough when they're doing so much.

I don't understand why they can't prioritise his needs on the one day a week they take care of him. They have plenty of toys at home for him to play with; he's barely getting the opportunity. I know this is an awkward conversation I am now going to need to have with them and DH is all offended that I don't appreciate his parents' help despite all this being communicated to him already!

To gain some perspective: I am wondering what other grand-parents do with your children on the days they take care of them? What do you expect? Do they do what you ask of them?

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CannonCaboodle · 11/10/2019 06:40

If you're unhappy, change your agreement with PIL and put him back into paid childcare for that one day.

NWQM · 11/10/2019 07:27

For me I think you should pick your battles.....

  • there has been one incident of incorrect food given. Unless you think it was a case of 'these days all these allergen nonsense it can't do any harm' then you need to relax a little. They made a mistake and all is now well with baby. You could however bend the truth & say that on medical advice you have to very Strictly control diet as part of tests. Therefore can they give him this menu only every day until you say it's all over. Your DH has needs to be on board;
  • activities.... honestly you describe them making sure that he is seeing a variety of people and that he is getting out of the house. It's one day a week. Lots of people hate Mothers and Toddlers Group. Is there a soft play area near by that has an annual pass you could buy? Can you check out behind the scenes if any of their friends look after Grandchildren & where they might go?
  • Nap time - depends how much of an issue this really is. I totally get that this could be massively affecting you and it might be the one thing your DH has to talk to them seriously about. Your DH ideally. Worried about you and baby. Not because you are unhappy.

Lots of people are saying stop the arrangement but as no doubt you have thought that's a massive step to take. They will be very hurt and offended. Only can know if their childcare is so far off the mark of what you are uncomfortable with. You seem to be describing lots of niggles and nothing major so it depend how it adds up to you:

timeforachange123 · 11/10/2019 07:30

I have my GS roughly every second weekend and lots of the holidays. In the holidays we go camping mostly ( we do a mix of sites we choose, his being the ones with childrens club etc and mine being more sedate but always with a play area)
At the weekends he fits in with me mostly, walking the dogs in the woods, gardening, shopping. I also try to take him to at least one activity he chooses, soft play, swimming out for a meal etc. I'll also take him to any parties he's been invited to. So, as a non resident parent would do, I'm assuming, as he has no contact with his father.
I look after him because I adore him and his company and it helps my daughter. I know my daughter is grateful to be able to continue to work and now have a bit of a social life. I treat him as I treated my own children who feel they had a great childhood so wouldn't expect any moans

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TottieandMarchpane · 11/10/2019 07:32

There are some lovely sounding, sensible grans on this thread. Your DGC are very lucky Smile

PaulHollywoodsSexGut · 11/10/2019 07:38

You know what the answer to this is if for only the allergies reason alone.

Never mind offending them, just say something like you’ve got a “4 days for 3 deal” at the nursery now - relieving them of “needing” to watch him.

Barring the allergies you do sound precious I’m afraid. Grandparents are just us but 35 years into the future. You’d probably bristle if you were expected to adhere fully to a schedule imposed on you too.

hyperkatinka · 11/10/2019 08:19

@Superrover that’s very lucky - the noise of all the other babies/kids seemed to wreck it for mike and then when they get to the stage of having to sleep on floor mats etc.

I’m always amazed when I find people raving about nursery care, neither of mike flourished in full time nursery care (or nannies, or CM) but a lot is down to personality.

I would be upset about the allergies - that’s an obvious red line as I said earlier.

hyperkatinka · 11/10/2019 08:21

mine in case it wasn’t obvious!

FunkySnidge · 11/10/2019 08:25

Grandparent care is not childcare.
If you want childcare you have to pay for it.
My parents and in laws provide zero grandparent care so I agree with your dh, be grateful and enjoy saving a bit. You will soon be in another phase and paying for plenty.

Skinnychip · 11/10/2019 08:43

My parents used to have my DD once a week. When she was tiny they wanted a schedule of feeding times/naps although DD was fairly resistant to flexible about when naps were. Mostly they just walked into town, went to a coffee shop, when she was older bought her a cake, and went home. My DM was quite unwell at the time and would have struggled to do softplay, swimming or anything more strenous than a walk but gave her lots of attention and got involved with playing/games at home. My PIL were more laid back, they would get on with stuff they were doing (in the house) and left the DC to pretty much entertain themselves.

PushkinTheCat · 11/10/2019 08:56

At that age, my DM used to look after DS for two days a fortnight and it was all very low-key - but she came to our house, which helped as all his toys were here. They had quite quiet days pottering, playing and going to the local park, sometimes the supermarket. She wasn’t confident about taking him on public transport at that age and they didn’t do groups - but that was fine with me as I did that with him.

She was quite casual about naps and often ignored my instructions about food in favour of the easy option - which was frustrating sometimes but never worrying or dangerous. As it was two days per fortnight, I found it not too difficult to bite my tongue as it wasn’t every day, if you see what I mean. She stuck to his usual mealtimes, which was the main thing.

PushkinTheCat · 11/10/2019 08:57

At the end of the day, DM was very child-led and I think different styles are good for children. But I would have felt differently about meal instructions being ignored if DS had had allergies and I don’t think you’re being unreasonable to raise that.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 11/10/2019 09:05

It’s only one day a week. The allergies thing is a no-no (but did he react? Childhood allergies are funny things - speaking from experience).

How old is he? 1.5 hrs nap is very binding.

At a childminder he’d get similar.

Particularly don’t know why grandpa being alone with him is an issue.

If you’re going to speak to them you need to unpack your gripe and only cover the 1/2 important things or it’s just going to come across as ‘you don’t do it like me’.

BackOnceAgainWithABurnerEmail · 11/10/2019 09:09

Sorry, to answer your actual question:

  • breakfast (sugary cereal and brioche they enjoy as they don’t get at home)
  • take big sis to school
  • swimming/food shop/ run errand
  • snack (either home or out, if out they often go to McDonald’s and share a single muffin between three!)
  • playing (trains, fisher price, duplo)
  • crafting with recycling and paints
  • watch peppa pig and topsy and Tim and waffle the wonder dog

They feed them a load of old rubbish but it’s one day and to be fair that’s what they fed me and I’m ok Grin

itsmonday · 11/10/2019 09:36

My sons grandparents don't babysit. He has one set. The other set are estranged for his dad so he has never met them. My parents have babysat once in 3 years to allow me to attend a funeral for 3 hours.

If I was fortunate enough to have them mind my son they would be mindful of any routine he was in but I wouldn't expect them to keep it. I'd trust them to keep him safe and have some fun with him, the rest is up to them if they are doing me a favour. Otherwise I'd pay for childcare and make my demands.

I think you're pretty lucky, if you don't like how they care for him and they aren't adhering to your rules then you should take him elsewhere.

I try to balance childcare costs and still work full time so I use my annual leave to take time off to mind my son. My husband and I haven't had a night out since he was born and we can't afford to take him off when he is childcare to have a day date. My marriage is basically ending.

You're fortunate, it's not ideal but it's better than most alternatives. They aren't mistreating him. Maybe it's hard for them to get him to do what you do with him.

theruffles · 11/10/2019 14:22

My MiL has my DD at least once a week and she's wonderful with her. They have their own routine which does differ from ours at home but works for the times she has DD.

She will take DD with her when she walks the dog but makes a stop at the swings/park. She usually takes her out somewhere of an afternoon after her nap - the farm, library, the supermarket, a walk to the local shops or to visit relatives. If the weather is bad they play with toys inside, read, colouring or do something like water play or play with pots and pans. DD does fit in with MiL's routine but she adapts it a little to take into account her nap time or time for a bottle.

We provide DD's food but I don't have a problem if MiL has given her something else (biscuit, ice cream) etc as I kind of think that's part of being a grandparent - you get to give them the fun stuff DM and DF might say no to. MiL gives me a list of everything DD has eaten/done that day when I get home which is helpful.

By MN's standards, I think my MiL is a rare breed. She's absolutely amazing.

EssentialHummus · 11/10/2019 14:34

Ours are in a different country but from zero experience I agree with this:

I’ve actually always strongly believed it’s a positive for children to be out and about in the community sometimes, tagging along on errands, absorbing information about social interactions, shops and so on.

I SAH (mainly) and DD and I do one DD-centred thing a day (playgroup, singing, library, park, play date), and then inevitably do some laundry/walk to Sainsbury’s/whatever. It’s just normal life. I’m not putting on rockets and fireworks every day, that’s not my job.

EssentialHummus · 11/10/2019 14:35

Allergies are an issue. Naps may be an issue, depending. All the other stuff I’d breath out.

Melrose86 · 11/10/2019 23:21

I let my parents decide what they want to do when they are looking after my baby. I don't agree with giving them a strict list of instructions (other than with things like allergies obviously) as they have their own lives and things they need to do too! If they are giving up their time for free you can't complain. I also think they know what they are doing! We all turned out fine! My mum coped with 3 under the age of 2 so I never worry when I leave my baby with her Smile

Melrose86 · 11/10/2019 23:29

I should add it sounds like your parents in law are not maybe taking the allergies seriously enough. Maybe you could find an article or leaflet or something that shows just how serious the allergies can be?

Wearywithteens · 11/10/2019 23:33

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AnotherQuirkyUsername · 12/10/2019 00:47

DS goes with MIL one full day and one half day a week.

She provides all 3 meals and will quite often one of us will go to pick DS up and she will have made us dinner to take home with us. She does lots of things with him zoo , parks , seaside , puddle hunting , cake making etc and has quite literally turned her house into a child paradise. She does ok with naps but he does tend to go for one just as and when he needs it.

I couldn't get that service along with genuine love for my DS anywhere , even if I paid for it and she does it for free. Sometimes she might ask about something if she's not sure but I wouldn't dream of telling her what to do with DS . Sometimes they have a day at home where he's just played with his toys and she's got on with house-y bits or had visitors over but I don't care , she's a god send and my DS loves it.

My point being maybe you just need to think wether it's worth the hassle (obviously excluding the allergy - i would address that) and I can imagine having a written regiment would be highly insulting.

9toenails · 12/10/2019 10:50

Grandad here. I am a bit taken aback by some attitudes to grandparental child care exposed here. It has been one of the best things of my life, looking after grandchildren. And far from thinking a grandchild should fit in with my pre-established routines, I think of the time I get to spend with these little ones as time I can devote to them and help them have as much fun as possible.

I say this, not to boast about what a wonderful grandad I am, but to suggest to other grandparents they should try something like this if they get the chance. Why? Just because of the enjoyment the grandparent gets from developing a relationship with these children at such a lovely stage in their lives, and from sharing their lives even to such a small extent as one day a week. And, simply, just from the pleasure to be had from the company of a child who loves and trusts you.

For instance, take a (two-year-old) granddaughter to the park. It can take an hour to walk 25 yards down the road, as the little girl picks up and compares leaves, checks out moss on walls, (yes, and chewing gum stuck to pavements, and dogshit left by antisocial owners: keep away!, yeuch!), investigates all this new world secure in the feeling she is looked after by the old man at her side. It is a real treat for the old man to be a part of this; get it if you can, I say, it is well worth the shitty nappies, the searching for a wee-wee place, and even the inescapable occasional tantrums. The world looks different when you are in the company of such a child; different and somehow thereby life-affirming.

In practical terms, I have never really taken to 'soft play' places; the ones I tried were universally tawdry affairs that diminished rather than enhanced the curiosity and desire for adventure of the children visiting. Much better, museums (many have child-friendly exhibits, but even if not specifically child-oriented there is plenty to interest a child -- the doors on the way in, the different kinds of chair, the strangers with their unusual coats ... oh, and the weird exhibits too ... all grist for the mill of childhood curiosity and interest), parks, woods, water in whatever form, bus rides, ... and so on, sometimes (not often) even just staying in and around the house making things from rubbish or getting mud-pie dirty all over in the garden.

I am not the first to point out that childcare is easier second-time round; this is partly because a retired-from-work grandparent can afford time a working parent may not be able to find so easily. Give your time to your grandchildren -- they will repay you a thousand-fold in love and, well, sheer enjoyment too.

I am lucky in my own children, I know. I am allowed 'grandad rules' for some treats the little ones do not normally get. But I try not to overdo unhealthy sweets and things, even though, as a granddaughter said recently, "You don't go to work like Mummy and Daddy, Grandad, do you?; your job is just to spoil your grandchildren."

Yes, like everything really worthwhile, grandparenting like this takes a bit of effort. It is worth the effort, though.

Now almost all my grandchildren are at school. That is giving other opportunities for grandparental input. The time spent with pre-school grandchildren, though, has been life-enhancing. And my children, bless them, tell me this helped them too. Everybody wins!

FunkySnidge · 12/10/2019 13:05

@9toenails I wish my kids had a grand dad like you in their life!

Teddybear45 · 12/10/2019 13:08

Wow she’s a grandparent doing this for free not a professional nanny. You need to either lower your expectations or pay for your childcare.

YerAWizardHarry · 12/10/2019 13:10

Spoils him rotten, fills him with sweets and pizza, lets him stay up late and watches movies snuggled in bed!

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