May Babies.......part3!!

[Egypt]

boo!

Thanks Twiglett, I will try the oil. The patches look like little circles and are only on his arms and back (with a smattering on his legs). DP has both ezcema and asthma so I am hoping it is all coincidence? fingers crossed . . .

We certainly the most vocal of the threads! bet £10 that it is me appearing the most - double dare you!

blimey!!!!! haven't posted in a day and its taken me ages to catch up!

i'm up with dd whilst dh gets a lie-in - shouldn't that be the other way around!??!

anyway, glad you are talking about bumbo seats. i was looking for one at the weekend, only to find that mothercareworld nor toy r us did them. so glad you found that site twiglett. will have to get one there.

kbaby - how is dd sleeping now? did she do another 10.30 to 5.30 stretch? bf is having the same effect as ebm i am finding. she sometimes sleeps a longtime and sometimes doesn't. last night she went to bed at 7pm, was so tired, she hardly ate much. we went out with simon's boss and the neighbours babysat. she stirred at 10ish, which was when we were home, so i gave her a feed. (am going to do dreamfeeds then from now on - IF i can get her to wake). she only then went until 1.45. then 5.15, then 8.40. thats not so bad for her really.

i can't wait for dd to laugh properly. must be so lovely spots. she looks really ready to do it, and kind of breathes in like she about to let off a god pealer but nothing comes!

oh, yes linnet dd does seem to poke herself in the eye when thumbsucking. hasnt got the idea of curling fingers around at all yet. bless

wow, your w/e sounded ace judd. how lovely.

i'm looking for a new car now. my MG is being collected today :( swapped for a big fat cheque . we have been looking for new cars but would really like a diesel for the miles i'll be doing. (going back and forth to norwich a lot and dh may use it for his 50 mile trip to work when i don't). we were looking at the xsara picasso's as they are really reasonably priced for such a big car. i remember kbaby saying she had bought a renault scenic, which is a similar size. how are you getting on kbaby? the guy at our local pub said to me "DON'T go getting one of those people carriers. You can't go from a nice sporty MG to one of those". But i really would like one!

poooooooped.

DD and her goldarn growth spurt or whatever it is... woke at 12, 1, 3 and 5 then finally awake at 6. Mad keen to feed every time. DH let it be known that he thinks I should deal with ALL night incidents so that he can get sleep. (I had tried to palm dd off on him at 6 for non milky cuddles). (Actually I don't think 6 is that big a deal and he's getting off lightly). So we had a 6am tiff over dd's head. I am starting to feel a bit 1950's, shushing the baby so Daddy can sleep, and I do worry that it's not a growth spurt at all just bad habits forminng. tbh more likely to ask him to do MORE milk free night cuddles, not less!

how long does a growth spurt last, anyway?

logging on with each feed...

i thought it was just a couple of days spots. don't know for sure.

was it you that says dd feeds for ages before bed? mine does too but i think it is because she is asleep! just has a few little sucks then breathes for a bit through her nose in a deep sleep fashion, then sucks for a little bit more, etc.....this goes on FOREVER. is that what your dd does? i'm wondering if she's actually getting anything this way?spose so

YO! girlfriend

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DD was ok in the swimseat. She did keep trying to recline back but we just keep sitting her back up. There is a seat back so when she did recline she just leant on that. We also took her out of it and just held the back of her head and let her bum and body float in the water. She liked that. Once she noticed the words written on the front of the swimseat though she couldve been anywhere as she spent the entire time staring at the words and didnt notice anything else.

Dropped dd today i went to lie her on my bed, as I tried to put her down with one arm(i had a bag in the other) she slipped and fell off. Luckily it was only about 10 inches off the bed. Also dp sat her on the settee on Wednesday and I came in the room to hear her crying to find shed fallen face first into the cushion. We wont be putting her on the settee again.

Went to work today to add some leave onto the end of my maternity. I go back now in 7 weeks they wont let me carry any over to next year for the wedding. DD played happily in her car seat and gave them all smiles but the minute anyone picked her up she screamed until I held her. Shes done it all day. No one else apart from me is allowed to hold her.

Wedding dress shopping tomorrow so DD is being left with ebm and dp. I'm not telling dp where anything is or what he needs to do, as he can find out exactly how hard it is to do everything and that when he changes nappies etc there isnt such a thing as a 'nappy fairy' who puts by the side of him everything he needs. Am I mean??

Everytime he bathes and dresses dd everything has to be given to him. I have to get a towell and get all her clothes laid out ready, he doesnt know where the dummies are or has even had to streilise one. I think this will be a good lesson
Oh also just bf dd at 10.30 last night instead of ebm. We woke twice, 2 +6. How can I get her to take enough milk on the breast like she does with the bottle to see her until 4am?

Egypt the car is lovely. I thought it would be like a tank to drive but surprisingly it feels the same as my old rover did. I also havent had to close my eyes, breathe in and prey as I drive down a narrow street with parked cars on the side which is what I normally do if I drive dps pegouet. Its got loads of little gadgets too. It tells me the temp, air con, 2 sunroofs, cd changer and best of all I can control the radio by a stick on the steering wheel also has loads of room in the boot. Fully recommend one.

Forgot to mention dd's got dry skin on her arms. I thought it was where they were rubbing in her car seat as its in the same place on both arms.

On the milk thing kbaby - if you are struggling to express a full feed you could giver her the bottle and breast at the same time to try and increase her consumption - so maybe she has a full breast feed and then just a couple of oz of ebm. Not sure if it'll work just an idea.

I've been taking DD swimming on a Wednesday for a few weeks now and just holding her/playing with her in the water. And then when I take DS to the session on a Friday I take DD and leave her on the side in her car seat. But she's not very happy about this, one week the lifeguard rocked her off to sleep, another week I had to get out after 10 minutes and stand there with DS and rock her on the side of the pool. So this week I decided to leave her in her carseat until she started to get grumpy and then take her in the water with us - inspired by the picture of your DD in the baby seat. She seemed very impressed with it despite being virtually ignored. DS was another matter - really badly behaved.

And Libb DD has little dry patches like you describe and then the skin just next to it is gorgeous and soft.

DH had a Scenic courtesy car today and I was quite impressed. We won't be getting one though. Got to keep my Fiesta a while longer and DH is too snobby for a people carrier - on about getting a Volvo next year when his company car is up for renewal. Although he took DS with him to the garage today and he admitted that DS loved being up high and able to see out.

Hee Hee got a Bumbo! horrible green one... but DD is hilarious in it, looking like a big girl all sitting up and with her wee legs stuck out the front. She kneads the weird rubbery stuff with her fingers.

She does feed like that Egypt. But Twiglett, if I take her off before she's decided it's time, she dozes on my shoulder while being burped but then comes to and is v. indignant like she's not had enough. So I have just been putting her back on again.

The whole demand feeding business needs a little more clarification for me at the moment. I have so far been giving her every feed she wants for as long as she wants but I am getting a niggly feeling that I ought to start thinking harder about whether or not it's getting out of hand. maybe this is a new thread...

dd doesnt seem interested in feeding much, that is apart from at night During the day she hardly ever cries for food and when I feed her after approx 3 hrs, half the time she isnt even bothered and preferes to suck her hand. Last saturday we were shopping and I waited until she cried for food, in the end after 5hrs I fed her as I was starting to get worried. No wonder shes not putting much weight on.
she feeds for about 4 mins and then spends the rest of the time kicking off with her feet, pushing my boob away with her hands or pulling off and then sucking her way back on as if its spagetti. If shes not gained weight on monday then ill see a bf counsellor as surely its not normal.

thanks for all the advice re the patches - he seems fine so we didn't go to the docs in the end. Does this make me careless? He seems happy enough and I hate panicking so to speak - and from what you have all said it doesn't unusual. I am doing the oil thing so see how that goes (thanks everyone for answering by the way, I couldn't get by without you all)

He did get weighed though and clocked in at 14lb 10ozs - over a stone already! sadly I am gaining far more and far better than he . . .

DS cracked me and the HV on duty at weigh in today, (it was his first time in about 5 weeks and we have to strip them naked) - having been unbared he lay back with his hands behind his head like he was Oliver Reed sunbathing on a punt on the Cam - the cheeky devil. Could almost hear him saying "Hello my lovely" before winking like a rogue.

I wonder how Oliver Reed would cope with the Bumbo I have also bought? (might've done him some good maybe?) - not keen on the colour but love the price! I also ended up with some Xtra deals - curse those Kiddicare pages!

LOL libb, oliver reed in a bumbo!!! excellent.

kbaby your dp sounds like my dh. doesnt know where anything is - i have to lay stuff out for him at bathtimes too. was up loads in the night with dd. gave her a dreamfeed at 10.15 and was awake again at 1am. she stayed awake until 3!!! got her in bed with me inthe spare room in the end. she woke again at 6, then 7. fed her again and she went until 8.40. i was so tired. dh got up with her and left me in bed. but MEN are so thoughtless. he put her in the lounge whilst he went on the internet in the spare room. (we have a one storey house - would say bungalow but i'm not 60 yet!) he left the door open to the lounge and i could hear her every growl, so naturally couldnt go to sleep. i came through and told him to 'shut the bloody door' and he said - 'she's fine with me, stop worrying. you're just going to have to learn to ignore her'. i was NOT worried, she was just keeping me awake. is it not too much trouble and inconvenience to TAKE her in the spare room with you and SHUT THE DOOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? why don't they get it?

spots, i feel exactly like you do regarding the feeding on demand. i feed dd loads. well, every couple of hours i spose and it is kind of a routine, maybe...i don't know. just seems to be too much but she does seem to be hungry. however, she doesn't guzzle like she's famished. i try and do her last day feed at 5pm, then at 7pm she feeds fine and falls asleep, but maybe i should try and do one at 4 instead. i don't think she will last. she lasts ages when we go out with her in the car though, like kbaby's. i'm sure all this is causing her to be all over the place at night.

going to get shopping for a bumbo seat now ;)

think ive offended mil. when she had dd last week i went over there to find dd sleeping on her side swaddled in a blanket. she was wearing a dress and cardigan. when i got home i said to dp that hell have to tell mil not to wrap dd up due to overheating and dont put her to sleep on her side.
he told her today and apparently her response was 'that if I had problems with the way she did things then perhaps she shouldnt look after dd' Well I sort've went off on one with dp and said that if that was his mothers attitude everytime we told her that things shouldnt be done like that now then fine I didnt want her to have dd. How can I let her have DD if im too scared to say anything and have the fact that shes looking after her thrown back in my face.
Came back from wedding dress shopping to find the house in a tip. DP managed to look after dd ok but obvisouly couldnt do anything else at the same time
Only managed to get to 2 shops today. Found a dress but its a bit too expensive. It was 1500 which I think is too much. Dont really know as ive nothing to go on but im guessing its a lot for 1 days wear.

thats terrible kbaby. poor you. your mil should respect your views and try to do things the way you do them. i find the whole mil thing very difficult. it's easier to tell your own mum the way you do things without sounding like you are being a neurotic mother. and i think your own mum is a lot like yourself by nature anyway. i think as long as your dd is happy with her, try not to worry too much.

i'm a tad confused. have started to introduce a dreamfeed at 10ish to see her through but she has woken for another feed an hour or 2 later each time. i may as well have just left it out. why is this happening ? habit? wondering whether to give her (or get dh to give her) a bottle of ebm or formula then istead and see if that works. maybe she'll take more then, but she does seem to take a good feed on a dreamfeed. gues i should just stick with it and see. what do you think? do your df's work?

last night she went to bed at 7.30, df at 10.15, fed at 12ish, 3.30 and 6.20. up at 8.40. this is WAY too much isn't it?

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oh well. going to try a bottle tonight just to see what happens, then if no luck will just leave her. i may just leave her anyway and do the bottle when she does wake.

experiment!

I found that when I did a dream feed baby whisperer style ie not to wake her feed her it didnt work. She fell asleep straight away and woke 2 hrs later.
I now wake her up at 10.30. I wake her up properly by changing her nappy and putting a cold baby wipe on her bum. She hates it and screams the place down but at least shes awake. I then feed her. I do find that some nights if shes not awake properly she wakes up 4hrs later for another feed and that ebm worked much better than breast feeding, shame I cant express the milk to carry on with that.
Our past few nights have been like this.
Friday 6.30pm,10.30,1.45,6.00am and up at 9.30am
saturday 8.00pm,10.30,5.00, 7.30 and up at 9.30am
Its not too bad, it is getting better.
DD's been really unsettled at bedtime this weekend. Since friday shes cried not long after being put down and its taken a few attempts to get her to stay down. Last night it wasnt until 11 that she finally fell into a deep sleep and tonight she's sleeping on DP's lap, each time we try and put her down she starts crying and we pick her up and then it takes a while to calm her down again. Not sure whats wrong. Anyone experienced the same?

DS goes down approx. 8pm, wakes at 3/4 am and has a sleepy feed (we both nod off and tend to wake at 5/6am), he then kicks sporadically and sleeps on and off until 8/9am - I think we are keeping him awake rather than him keeping us awake . . . he gets cranky, chucks his arms around and rubs his eyes alot. Falls asleep when I gently hold his arms down . . . time for his own bed maybe?

I am still worried about the lack of smiles and laughs (didn't help today when friend with 5 year old on autistic scale said that those were her first clues, , she was trying hard to back peddle the moment the words came out - I know my logical side says that she wasn't saying that this was cause for concern, just HER personal situation at the time but it still sows seeds of doubt/worry if you see what I mean?)

That said he gave me some ace smiles this morning . . . I dunno, this quiet worrying can be tiring! wouldn't it be lovely to ask them outright? ho hum.

So far we have been v. lucky with the putting down. I have a complain - y thread elsewhere about night feeds tho' so won't even start on that. (thanks Prufrock for your input on that, I do find the growth spurt thoughts v. reassuring.)

Finally I have managed to get an online album going. I used Ofoto, the Kodak one, and can't see how to make it available through this thread. So if anyone wants to CAT me, I'll forward their email address to the 'visitors' book' and you can have a look. Sorry it's not straightforward... but it is actually, so please feel free.