Wwyd if your toddler had been asleep since 2?

[Prusik]

Do you think I should be worried? He fell asleep in the car around 1.45 ISH. Woke briefly during cot transfer at 2.15. Not heard a peep since. He is breathing....I checked

Prusik I get what you're saying about cold hands, kiss on the neck etc- but to mention common sense when you're the one asking strangers about your toddler still sleeping after 5+hrs then ending up in a&e at 5am is a bit 🙄 Perhaps you should buy a thermometer this afternoon.

I always do a kiss test before I get the thermometer out. It’s easy to tell if she is normal, warm or fever hot.

I thought it was easy but I'm a bit alarmed your husband managed to miss such a high fever!

Ah I don't get it. At 7pm he was fine, had milk and went back to bed.We checked on him periodically in the night. 4am he was fine but warm, 5am the temp had gone up, at which point we used a thermometer. He was, at 5am irritable, his legs were shaking, he wouldn't stop crying, he wanted to go back to sleep, etc. Prior to that he was just asleep. You don't need a thermometer if you know there's no fever. This boy has had dozens of fevers. Doctor's are never interested unless if goes above 40, in my experience, and even then they just say wait and see. incidendally his brother has only ever had one fever and isn't a single worry health wise

With little ones it can be hard to gauge a fever, I'd been with DD all day and thought she was little warm but not worried. DH came home have her a cuddle and went straight for the thermometer and she was 39.8.

OP I'm glad he's ok, but if you're ever worried or got an inkling that something is wrong you need to act sooner. I'm surprised you left him asleep that long if you were worried. Us parents know our children best so it's down to us to recognise that something isn't right. If you're still concerned, take him to be seen again.

I've spent his whole life concerned about him if I'm honest. It's hard to make the call sometimes. He's prone to excess sleep (although not quite this excess) and prone to fevers. Normally we go to the doctor's and get told to observe him for 48 hours. Hence why I left it longer this time. Turns out it's yet another false alarm.

Research has shown that even doctors can't accurately assess fevers by touch. They are better at predicting that patients don't have a temperature than predicting that they do, but they can't predict all that well whether patients have fevers and how bad they are. Also, patients themselves can't accurately predict whether they have fevers. All they can say is that they 'feel hot' or they 'feel cold'. But we all know that sometimes you can feel hot and your temperature is normal, and you can feel cold but you have a raging temperature and your body is trying to cool you down by sending your blood vessels to the surface of your skin.

The big issue here is that your DS was unusually sleepy and difficult to rouse. By that, I don't mean that he wouldn't wake, but that when you woke him, he went back to sleep straight after. That warranted a full set of formal observations in my view. So a proper temperature check with a thermometer, counting his heart rate by feeling his pulse for a full minute, and counting his respiratory rate by looking at his chest and counting how many times he breathed in and out in one minute. Then looking up what the normal values are for a 20 month old baby/child. Having just looked it up, normal Heart Rate for a 1-2 year old is 100-150 and normal respiratory rate is 25-35.

With his temperature and his drowsiness, you were absolutely right to be seen.

False alarm in what sense though - he had a fever for a reason the fact it wasnt a serious bacterial infection is immaterial

and the 40 degree thing is weird I have always been told its about the fever coming down a consistent fever around 39-40 that is not broken by taking meds is an issue (and I have had it with mine)

At 7om he was not fine!! Sleeping from 2pm to 7pm only waking because someone has stirred you then wanting to go straight back to sleep is not normal!! It'snot fine!! Viral infections can come on in minutes and this was your warning!!

How is he now op?

It’s not a false alarm though is it? Doctor suspects a UTI. I don’t understand why you don’t seem to understand that can actually be quite serious particularly in a boy.

Also this has proved you cannot judge when he has a significant fever and tbh that you need to up your game a bit. Your paramedic housemate thinks an ambulance was necessary but you seem to still think it’s nothing.

a friends child has just being discharged from hospital after 3 days from a UTI needing IV antibiotics. My FIL experienced brain symptoms from a mismanaged UTI

Recurrent fevers should be looked at

He's prone to excess sleep (although not quite this excess) and prone to fevers.

So use a thermometer! I have 3 children, quite clued up about fevers. My children get fevers up to 40 with just a little cold!
I am telling you now, the kiss test is not ok to use! Your child may feel a bit warm, even with a temp of 41.6!
I honestly thought my DDs temp was around 39. I tested just so I could see if Calpol helped bring down the fever as she started to look quite unwell and vacant, so I test after 30 mins to compare. I had the shock of my life when I saw 41.6!
Ambulance was called out and I am glad I decided to use a thermometer!

Please, find yours and keep it in an easy accessible place!

I don't usually give medicine at 39. It is only because she started to look strange I checked. I dread to think what would have happened to her if I used the kiss test. Trust me. - child with a fever not -always easy to tell!

I've spent his whole life concerned about him if I'm honest. It's hard to make the call sometimes.

Welcome to parenthood.

He's prone to excess sleep (although not quite this excess) and prone to fevers.

That's not normal though?

Normally we go to the doctor's and get told to observe him for 48 hours. Hence why I left it longer this time.

Yes because a doctor has ruled out any need for intervention

Turns out it's yet another false alarm.

Every situation is different, however this was not a false alarm. Your child is unwell!

And to add to that, I would be making a routine appointment to discuss with the GO Why your child is suffering excess tiredness and repeated fevers with no apparent cause.

Also crucially you treat the child not the fever. So even if he wasnf that warm the fact he was irritable and lethargic should’ve been enough to get him seen.

Posts thread concerned about child.
Tries to argue when people say use a thermometer 🤦🏻‍♀️
Surely using a thermometer would be the first thing you would do...if you were that concerned ?