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Hating breastfeeding

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AperolSprizting · 17/08/2018 16:30

I’m 3 weeks in and hating every minute of breastfeeding. Which is making me hate every minute of parenting because it’s literally all I do. I knew it’d be tough don’t get me wrong but I didn’t realise it’d be soul destroying and not mention downright excruciatingly painful. I can’t see how we’re ever going to leave the house either. Had a week in hospital and a week at home and haven’t been outside and have only had two sets of visitors since.

Firstly I’ve had a section so I can only really do a couple of holds full stop. The main problem I have though is thag DS seems to go from being slightly peckish to red faced and screaming the house down in seconds which is obviously awful but the it’s the hands, they’re grabbing my boobs, shredding at my nipples (which on already sore nipples feels like cutting them with glass and has me almost screaming), they’re in the way of me doing the correct hold and by the time I’ve managed to hold one down the crying has intensified and the fist of the other one is in his mouth. And so the process begins again. All this needs to be done standing up as I can’t pin his underside arm down whilst sat down. All the while he is screaming and by now twisting his head away and I’m drenched in sweat and almost shouting at him - the latter making me feel absolutely hideous. This has been going on for two and a half weeks and if anything has got worse not better. How could I ever do this outside the house?? We’ve seen various people and the advice ranges from that we should just put up with it in the hope that it will get better to trying swaddling. We’ve tried this - exasperberates the situation as he has to wait even longer and just fights his way free.

Then there’s the latch itself his mouth seems very small in comparison to all the pictures and videos I’ve seen and he doesn’t stick his tongue out - the MW said he has a short tongue but doesn’t have tongue tie as he’s gaining weight. This means the latch always ranges from uncomfortable to downright excruciating to the point that I’m sobbing. I did have some grazing which had healed with the application of Lanisoh but they are still very tender. Again whilst there’s been a marginal improvement the right one has got worse again this wk and everything says it shouldn’t hurt at all. I certainly don’t feel I should be sobbing, I even pulled some of my own hair out this morning to stop me from screaming and have been taking paracetamol and ibuprofen to deal with the pain all week. Again when people have looked they’ve said the latch looks normal?? They’ve suggested some things in terms of holding the nipple altho everything I have read says not to do that. However I need my free hand to hold down his arm so they’re all impossible. I’m also getting excruciating pain in my wrists.

I have mentioned nipple shields and expressing but all HCP have said not until 8 wks as it will effect supply and confuse the baby.

DH says because he is gaining weight I just need to persevere and grin and bare it. I think he thinks I want the easy way out and I don’t all I want to be able to give my baby my milk I just don’t want to be in agony to do it. DS’s really sweet and alert when he’s with DH, I don’t get any of that I’m just a reclusive feeding machine and I don’t feel like we’re bonding because of it feel like I could be anyone to DS and he could be anyone’s and I’m just feeding him.

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harrietm87 · 18/08/2018 15:36

@OlderThanAverageforMN maybe it's because people generally post when they have problems, so you're less likely to get threads started by people saying "bf is going really well for me...". Great contribution though.

@AperolSprizting how are you today?

wintertravel1980 · 18/08/2018 19:03

Tongue tie only affects a very small percentage of babies.

According to NHS:

www.nhs.uk/conditions/tongue-tie/

Tongue-tie affects around 4-11% of newborn babies. It's more common in boys than girls, and sometimes runs in families.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/tongue-tie/

I would say 4-11% is actually quite common.

littlestrawby · 18/08/2018 21:57

Bless you. I also found this excruciatingly painful, I'm not a swearer at all but I'd be shouting swear words for the first seconds of each feed, and crying as well. I also got a really sore back from tensing and twisting my body so much from the pain of my daughter latching on.

2 things helped:

  1. DH went and bought a pump and I expressed milk to feed DD with a bottle sometimes. I expressed whenever she had a bottle so it didn't affect my supply, and it was only once a day we did that
  2. had a private lactation consultant come in to help. She recommended the above as well and said one bottle feed a day wont interfere with her feeding. She also suggested we had lots of skin to skin when the baby bf, and to lay back and just put the baby on my chest. DD would then wriggle down to my boob and open her mouth really wide to find it (she never usually opened it enough for a decent latch!). I'd then just help wiggle the nipple in to her open mouth. Much easier, much more relaxing, and far less painful!

I gave myself a cut off of 4 weeks at which point I was going to say no more, but I got to the 4 weeks and found that it was soon much better!

Whatever you decide, just know you're doing the best for you and your baby. Don't let your DH make you feel bad, he has no idea what you're going through xx

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mumofanonly · 20/08/2018 22:49

Join the Facebook group breastfeeding yummy mummys and get some proper advise.
Educate yourself on the risks and dangers of feeding your baby artificially so you are not tempted- or if you do decide to turn to formula then at least you know.

DollyDayScream · 20/08/2018 23:20

You have my utmost empathy, I have been there. It is tough and toe curling, but in my experience after four weeks it stops being hard and painful. Your nipples will toughen up and feeding will start to fall into a pattern (from all the fucking time). You will (and bloody should be) so proud of yourself. You are doing an amazing thing for baby and if you can bear to stick with it, you will feel the benefits too.

However, we all have our limits and if bottle feeding keeps your sanity and well being, then opt for that. Life is too short to struggle without hope. Do what is best for you and it will be for the best for your family.

FranticallyPeaceful · 20/08/2018 23:57

It gets better, but honestly there’s nothing wrong with bottle feeding. I’ve EBF all three of mine but wish I hadn’t with my first as it seemed to spiral my PND. Was fine second time ans zero pain at all, and third time it hurt a lot for 4ish weeks and then it was okay and now it’s fine

BumbleBerries · 21/08/2018 00:18

Small mouth and small tongue sounds like tongue tie. If you're literally feeding all the time, that's another sign, most HCPs will assume you're exagerating. If you can get a referral do, and don't be afraid to push it you're 'wrongly' referred they just won't cut it (because it's not there). He might actually have a good latch which is why he's putting on weight and the tongue tie has been missed.
In the mean time use the nipple shields. In you're case the point would be to use an easier snapped nipple to yours until his mouth is big enough to overcome the restriction of the tongue tie. So pointless to wait.

About the scratching its hard to say without knowing the holds you're using, please ask if you want more ideas for holds. But I would hold the lower hand in the armpit of the arm holding him. Then get him to grab my thumb too with the free hand so that I could use my fingers to hold his head and then thrust the nipple at him.

I know I got unreasonably jealous of dh because he got her for all the happy times. It is easier to bare when she will spend 5 minutes doing something that isn't feeding so you can have a break and a happy cuddle. Also they can smell milk on you and get upset if you don't feed, which is why he's happy with dh.

Expressing and giving a bottle might give you a break. But if you find it more painful or more effort then it's really not worth it, and the worst of both worlds.

As for getting out, it's mostly remembering its okay if he cries and getting over the first time. Take a trip to somewhere you're vaguely comfortable faffing with feeding And take support (human shield).

And you get to choose how to feed your child, you decide what's best for your baby and you. Most of us are here to help you either way.

BumbleBerries · 21/08/2018 00:33

And for those of you telling the OP to ff (rather than just suggesting it as an option), I know it's well intentioned and it might be what she needs to hear, but should also know that it isn't always harmless.

Of course bottle feeding is fine and mental health is paramount but my pnd was mainly caused by being told that I should bottle feed and being refused breast feeding help. Yes I was struggling, but that was my decision to make. And if I asked for help, that's what I wanted.

If someone was struggling to find the right bottle for their baby you wouldn't suggest breast feeding to avoid the problems she was facing. It works both ways.

ReggieKrayDoYouKnowMyName · 21/08/2018 00:36

Express and feed him a bottle. I did it from day one with both children and it didn’t affect my supply, or their nipple confusion/preference and I breastfed both for over 2yrs.

In my experience it did hurt to start with DD1, I would say hurt quite badly for the first 6-8 weeks but then was much easier suddenly or my nipples just toughened up (she definitely didn’t have TT as had her checked by a specialist). What saved me going mad for that first 8 weeks was knowing she would take a bottle. I would feed her a final feed at midnight and then put the cream on my nipples and sometimes cold packs from the freezer in my bra and hand her over to DH and go and sleep in the spare room. He would give her two bottles of expressed milk and bring her into me at around 8am when I’d had some proper sleep and my poor, knackered tits had had some rest. If I hadn’t had those hours of respite I would have given up.

Cutesbabasmummy · 22/08/2018 15:28

I also had toe curling pain and didn't produce much milk. An hour pumping from each breast got about 40mls. At 5 weeks I gave up and moved exclusively to formula. He's now a happy and healthy 3.5 year old. Fed is best, however you choose. Don't be bullied into carrying on if its not what you want, or can bare.

whatamigoingtodo87 · 24/08/2018 06:32

I'm almost 2weeks pp and feel the same. I've been shouting from the rooftops for support at every appointment but no help has been forthcoming. Today we have an appointment with a breastfeeding consultant and I really hope for a miracle.

The day time is ok feed wise for me but by night he does exactly the same with his arms.

My lb had tongue tie which I paid privately for on day 2 and got investigated myself as midwives aren't trained. I'm also using nipple shields which mean he is feeding from me aaa I've flat nipples but I also resent/ hate them as he pulls them off and until we've stopped using them I feel I'll be trapped at home because he wants boob fast not wait for me to get a blummin' shield on.

If you're adamant you want to bf get help, talk to la leche league, go to your bf support groups, see a tongue tie and breastfeeding consultant.

Night time is worse for me as I'm with my own thoughts and tired because I've been feeding all day. I'm guilty of offering formula at night. I've every hope my appointment today solves a few issues.

As for pain, use shields, get yourself some multi-man compressed and use some lansolin. I've been expressing as well to increase milk supply.

Longtalljosie · 24/08/2018 06:43

Unfortunately what you are experiencing is the reality of breastfeeding

No - it’s one of the things that can go wrong but is not everyone’s reality. Saying that is unfair to women who are suffering (implying all other BF mothers are somehow tough enough not to mind a bloody awful, painful situation) and unfair to expectant mothers - scaring them unnecessarily. For many women it’s not like this at all. OP - do listen to people who are advising further help with tongue tie and also nipple shields. If you’re close to stopping anyway, why not give nipple shields a bash first? Flowers

Fishywishyhead · 24/08/2018 20:47

This may help for the night feeds www.mothercare.com/swaddles/gro-snug-2-in-1-swaddle-and-newborn-light-sleeping-bag/LF4722.html

I found it hard with all of mine and still went on to feed for years on end. The first 6 weeks is tough but it gets easier every day.

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