Rusk in bottle

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How do I add the rusk in the bottle ? Do I add the rusk in with the powder then add a little water and melt them then add more water ? Or do I just full the water all the way to the top then shake ? What's the ways some of you guys have done it :)

Is it really that hard? Break up rusk, put rusk in bottle, shake bottle.

It's very outdated advice and dangerous but if you're determined to its not exactly rocket science is it.

Sorry OP that last post was unusually nasty of me. I see the thread has moved on somewhat. I'm having a bad day so will step away from the keyboard for a bit.

OP

If the Doctor has actually said your baby "may need to be fed by drip" if they don't put on weight in a fortnight, ie. is a candidate for Parenteral or Total Parenteral Nutrition (TPN) then I find it very hard to believe your baby is not under hospital management as an inpatient, with a diet carefully controlled by the medical team.

Either something doesn't add up, or you have the shittest doctor in the world.

Either way, I think you really need some help and should speak to a different consultant about the possibility of having baby admitted as an inpatient, because it honestly appears as though you're really struggling.

Zeeboo

Drips are given to provide fluids not nutrition

I assume the OP is using drip to refer to Parenteral Nutrition, which is intravenous.

Op

Rusks will clog up the teat so you and the baby will become very frustrated if you go down that route.

The makers thickened the rusks up over the last twenty years and they just down break down the way they used to.

In your shoes I will ask about the high calorie powdered milk from the GP - he can give you a script for some.

Weetabix/potato/rusks are not really nutrition in their own on a constant basis but I'm sure you know that.

Given your age do you have a support worker or anything similar

There is brilliant advice on here OP.

Put your big girl pants on for just 5 minutes and listen to the FACT that adding rusk to a bottle is dangerous for your child. If that information isn't enough to plant a huge seed of doubt in your brain then I genuinely despair.

You sound very petulant.

OP, please seek some proper help. If any medical professional has suggested this course of action (which I do not believe), report them to their supervisory body. Otherwise, don't make up stories to support something that you think might make your baby sleep longer regardless of the risks.

I understand that you are in a complicated situation now, but please accept that you are not coping at the moment and find some proper help.

This is one of those threads where I fervently hope it is a case of hairy hands under a bridge and not a real poster.

Umpteen
Indeed! But I think giving benefit of the doubt is the right thing to do. Plus, MN threads are so helpful to other posters with similar issues.

They don't give TPN for babies who are failing to thrive because of poor diet. They give them food. for much younger babies it's nasogastric tube feeds if needed.
This thread is either bullshit or this baby is seriously unwell or the doctor is totally wrong.

If the OP is telling the truth on all her threads then I would hazard a guess the baby is seriously unwell and hopefully intervention will happen at some point before she potentially dies.

My son is severely under weight (50th centile when born, currently between 7-8 centile). We are under the care of a peadatrican and dietician. She is waiting for his next weight check, but has said if he doesn't put weight on he will end up on supplements to boost his meals. (Due to MANY allergies and intolerance, he eats very little). She at no circumstance ever mentioned shoving rusks down his throat to boost his calories.
If the dr has said mix a rusk with some milk, why don't you just do what everyone have said and mix it with milk and serve using a spoon. The rusk will dissolve so it's a lumpy sort of weetabix type texture. It's dangerous for them to have rusks out of a bottle, they can choke.
Rusks are quite an outdated type of food to feed a baby, try some other foods, maybe soft veg or cucumber sticks. They are good foods to help your baby eat if she doesn't have teeth. Dont just 'fill her up with milk', offer her foods and eat with her if she's a reluctant eater.
If your struggling with meals you should have been referred to a dietician, maybe try and speak to your hv for some more updated advice.

Have you thought about feeding her things w more fat such as avocado mashed with banana? Or purée avocado into her milk? That would add fat and help put a n weight.

They don't give TPN for babies who are failing to thrive because of poor diet. They give them food. for much younger babies it's nasogastric tube feeds if needed .This thread is either bullshit or this baby is seriously unwell or the doctor is totally wrong.

This is true, it is a very confusing thread. I still think she needs more professional help and probably for baby to be admitted as an inpatient so it can get reliable care and she can get assistance.

Thank you @FoxesSitOnBoxes. They would not be giving TPN iv to a baby who is currently at home under the care of its mother. Things would have escalated way further before they did that and as Foxes pointed out, it would likely be NG. TPN can damage the liver over time, humans need to eat solid food for the who digestive process to work properly.
I am still worrying about this child

@zeeboo

I know they wouldn't. I wondered if it was just a threat from the doctor?

I worry about this baby too.

I feel like this thread is a bit of a lesson for us all

Clearly the OP is in a very difficult situation and is desperately seeking help from the internet. Obviously we know that her original idea of rusks in bottles is a bad idea, but I think she's probably doing what she thinks is right (which is NOT right, I fully agree, but she believes it is).

Unfortunately now she's gone off and disappeared and won't be asking for help again. In reality what that means is that she'll be struggling along by herself, with no one to guide or support her. Realistically that is not what is best for her or for her baby(s).

She's not magically going to gain all the knowledge and support she needs- so now both her and her children are more at risk.

Whilst yes, we absolutely need to spread correct advice and explain why rusks in milk is not an appropriate option, I think reading between the lines it was fairly obvious from the start that she was struggling with a baby. Careful tact is the most successful course to take, regardless of how tricky it is.

Personally, I hope that the OP comes to realise that everyone just wants to help and support her and her children, and that she does come back and ask for advice again

Personally, I hope that the OP comes to realise that everyone just wants to help and support her and her children, and that she does come back and ask for advice again 

I hope so too. I was sad that the OP felt so defensive. So many of us really wanted the best for her and baby.

It's unsafe, your doctor is wrong, don't do it.
Perhaps you have misunderstood the doctor as I can't imagine someone who is medically trained giving this advice?
And re: your rude replies to everyone - if you get a comment telling you how to do it, it's still a terrible idea because of the choking hazard. Surely that's common sense?

Sure perper, but it doesn't warrant the abrupt replies to people who are genuinely trying to help? Perhaps that's a lesson for the OP?

Fuck me. I didn't do this for my son but it's none of my business what you have been told.
So here is my advice.
I used to put porridge into my sons bottle to help him gain weight when he was approx 6 months.
If you make the risk into a bowl with formula and then basically keep whisking it slowly.
If you feel your baby is ready for it I used NUK beaker tests as they were larger holes.
Start off by adding the most tiny amount of milk as though you would for a bechamel sauce then keep going until it is thin and in the normal feed amount of milk. Or try feeding as a porridge.
Keep being the warrior you are and follow your heart and the health professionals advice.
Xx

^ fucksake

mowgeli Keep being the warrior you are and follow your heart and the health professionals advice.

I think hope that the op is trying a different way to get the baby to sleep through, rather than it being underweight, having read some of the other posts.

She's giving abrupt replies because she's 17, possibly homeless, young baby, pregnant. And 17. And not hearing what she wants to hear.

I am having flashbacks to the 70's where I saw parents dip a baby's dummy in whiskey to "help it sleep" said with a wink and a smile. I didn't understand it as I was just a child. Now I am horrified.

I find this thread very difficult to read.

Rusk in a bowl, add formula milk, smoosh it down to make porridge like consistency. Feed to 8 month old.

Rusk in a bottle was definitely something that happened in the 60/70s but for babies who were much younger and couldn't be spoon fed.

It stopped because it was incredibly dangerous. A bit like the fact that baby's now have car seats by law, I remember sliding across the car because we didn't even have seat belts in the back of the car.