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Worried about bringing up a boy (anyone else?)

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goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 11:16

Hello! I’m 25 weeks (first pregnancy, I’m over 40) and we found out 2 months ago we’re having a boy. I know it sounds ridiculous but I was shocked. Literally all the women I know who are like me in personality and interests have girls, and I always believed mums naturally get what they’re best suited to. But I’m just stereotypically female in every way. I hated maths/science, terrible with technology, useless and disinterested in sport, very cautious and terrified of risk-taking behaviour (I was that child who wouldn’t go underwater, rollerskate or climb anything), have no sense of competition, I never get angry so struggle to ‘get’ male emotions, I’m not a physical person at all, I like to verbalise everything, find action films and video games mind-numbingly boring, walk out of the room when Formula 1 is on as the car noise grates on me, no spatial awareness, I don’t have male friends and prefer to gravitate to women at work events etc.

On top of this, everyone keeps telling me I’ll ‘obviously’ have a girl as they can’t ever imagine me with a boy, which puts me off telling people. We did tell my siblings but they instantly said ‘it will be nice for [various male members] of the family’ rather than saying why a boy would be nice for me. I’m assuming they couldn’t come up with any reasons and that made me sad, for my baby as well as myself!

Both sides of our families are all nephews- I love them but despite trying hard I find their boisterous behaviour/violent superhero talk frustrating. I’m sad I can’t find things in common with them. By contrast, I get such joy from chatting to/playing with friends’ girls and they love spending time with me, we just ‘click’, but sadly I don’t see them often. I really crave a chance to play with dolls, read girly books, decorate pretty things, style hair and share all the things I adored as a child. The usual advice is to do these thing with a niece but I don’t have one.

In honesty I cried for weeks (judge away!) but I’ve now adjusted, realised I need to be grateful. I don’t think I’m a bad person, I just think I had a lot of particular skills to offer a girl and was far too over-excited to be the mummy my little girl would dream of. I will love this baby because he’s ours, I’m excited about the baby stage and it will be fine, but I feel a bit ‘wrong’ and like I need to change my nature to be any good at bringing up a boy, which is scary. I just don’t know any women as extremely girly as me with boys (the boy mums I know like at least some ‘boy’ things, even if it’s Star Wars or Lego; or they’re the no nonsense alpha female type) so I wonder how I’ll manage when he’s older or if he’ll find me annoying/boring.

Online I find hundreds of lists of ‘reasons to love having boys’ that are just catalogues of things I can’t relate to, like getting dirty/the outdoors, the joys of ‘more interesting’ mechanical toys, ‘hilarious’ fart jokes or ‘cheaper clothes’ (if you don’t care….but I’m seriously into fashion and I’m finding nice boys’ clothes hard to find and cost twice as much).

My DH was happy with either and will be the great male role model our little one needs, but after we found out he did say he’d secretly felt a girl might suit us better as a couple (he is the ‘protective daddy’ type, he’s fanatically hygiene/clean-conscious and we live in a tiny flat with no garden- all the boy mums I know say they need a lot of outdoor time), so that didn’t help.

Are there any ultra- girly mums out there who can relate to my experience? I really need some advice and help.

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reallyanotherone · 06/03/2017 12:40

It's peer pressure. A group of boys will play with swords because that's acceptable boy play. Can you imagine if little tommy said "actually, why don't we put on a dance show instead"? Even if the other boys wanted to, none would admit to it.

Parents buy in to the "girls and boys are different" thing because they underestimate the influence of school and tv. Even if they bring up their children with no gender bias, boys will learn how boys are supposed to behave from other sources, as will girls.

Gender stereotyping starts from before birth. Studies have shown that once gender is revealed, the language used to describe the foetus changes.

I could say the same as your friends. I have one child who hates dolls, one who loves them. I have one who is obsessed with wheels. So boys and girls must be different, right?

Except i only have girls. Does that mean my doll hating child is a boy?

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 12:41

SleepFreezone- it would have been hard for me to explain why I am worried about bringing up a boy without explaining a bit about myself. I'm not self-absorbed at all but you do sound defensive. I know lots of mums of boys who sound a bit like that sometimes (maybe society criticises boys too much?) but boys are great so no need to be. This is not about boys being better or worse. It is about how women who feel they are quite like me in their interests have related to and enjoyed having sons. I wanted it to be positive and I'm glad I have got some really good replies from a couple of more girly mums who initially felt like me but it changed when they met their son. I'm not sure you are one of those women because you haven't related to my point at all but glad you also love having boys! :)

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strawberrypenguin · 06/03/2017 12:45

Honestly your OP is awful. You shouldn't have got pregnant if you weren't prepared to have a child of either gender. Boys are not aliens they are individual people the same as girls are.

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anxious2017 · 06/03/2017 12:47

"get her into football" so she could share his interests? Wow, a child is their own person. I wonder how he'd feel if she hated football?

The OP reads horribly. Really horribly. I'd do as one of the other posters suggested and get a whole heap of literature on your issues, because it sounds like you have them massively.

Freezingwinter · 06/03/2017 12:48

I am about as girly as you can get. I have a 2 year old baby boy and we are as close as you can imagine. He is funny, and laughs at the silliest of things, like when people fall over or drop things. He is kind and gentle, loves stroking our dog, reading books, doing jigsaws, and watching films. He has moments where he dances and jumps and makes me laugh so much! He adores me. He plays rough and tumble with his daddy but strokes my hear and wraps his little arms around my neck so tight. When I get in from work he shouts MOMMY and throws himself at me. Forget boy vs. Girl stereotypes, you could have easily had a girl who was a real tomboy. Just relax and enjoy your boy for whoever he turns into!

anxious2017 · 06/03/2017 12:48

"Girly Mums" wtaf?

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 12:49

MakeMineaGandT- I love your positivity and loved hearing about your children. I would love to have siblings for my baby and I'm hoping, but I have age against me. I think the more you have, the more you see different physical and personality traits of you and your DH in them, and that is so interesting and fun.

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goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 12:50

Freezingwinter- Ahhhhhhhh :) :) :)

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BobSponge · 06/03/2017 12:52

I felt this way, perhaps not with my first, but I never saw myself as a 'boy mum'. I ended up having 2 boys, a girl, and then another boy Grin. But it was only when I had my daughter, that I realised. I don't see them as BOY or GIRL, they are just who they are...if that makes sense. They all have their own personalities, and traits that make them unique.

My daughter is probably the most aggressive of all of my children, she was not what I had imagined a daughter to be. For so long I wanted a little girly girl, yet the most gentle of my lot is actually my DS2. He is the one who likes quiet chats, is polite, reflective etc.

Once your little boy is born you will come to see what I mean. Nothing will compare to him.

FATEdestiny · 06/03/2017 12:56
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Introvertedbuthappy · 06/03/2017 12:57

I have two children. One loves baking, cross stitch, cooing over babies, reading, swimming, comic books, sports, hiking, being out on the scooter, coding and drawing. The other loves charging around, has no sense of danger, loves books and cuddles. They are both boys.

Children are individuals. If I think about my class I can think of two girls who are obsessed with poo and fart jokes, a boy who will always offer to help me at lunch and loves handing out jotters, girls who without doubt will come back in from lunch covered in mud and boys who will come in crying over a playground fallout. Honestly, don't invest so much in bullshit stereotypes - nurture your son as an individual. My eldest walks along reading! He sits with his cross stitch in the evening as he chats about his day. He's also very competitive in his sporting clubs and events but he gets that from me - DH is very laid back. Likewise his love of maths and science - he gets his love of reading and baking from DH. I am not a 'girly girl' and my mother hated that. Please don't push your children towards stereotypes - it can be very damaging. It was hard growing up knowing I wasn't the meek, still, quiet girl my mother had hoped for.

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 12:59

anxious2017. It just seems 70% of these replies are so kind and helpful and the other 30% are just snipers spitting venom! This is actually funny. I showed I wasn't a dreadful sexist by saying I'd be more than happy for my DH to get a little daughter into football, and now you can't snipe about us being 'gendered' you accuse him of pushing hypothetical daughter into activities she hates! My DH would encourage ANY child to support his team, not because he's a dreadful evil person, but because he's a bloke who likes football and parents like to share the fun they have with their kids. The same reason I was excited to buy dolls for my baby. Not because I'm controlling or manipulative. I just think they are fun and maybe my baby would also find them fun! If the baby doesn't like football/dolls/whatever, we move on to something else, because kids tend to lead with their own interests. It's so, so, so normal I can't believe I had to write it!

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smilingsarahb · 06/03/2017 13:10

There will be things your boy does with his dad (I can't stand motor sport either) but there will be things you enjoy together. My sons both love cooking with me, they sew, knit, they like animals and horse ride. We did teddy bear picnics, we even did spa baths, played with dolls and dressed up as fairies. I have no interest in trains or tractors but seeing how happy they made my children made them interesting to me very briefly. Their enthusiasm carried me through that stage. So I think you will have lots of fun. They did do boy stuff but not having girl around gave them confidence to try girl stuff too as they didn't know it was for girls as noone told them.

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 13:12

I think I should have chosen a more positive title for this post- something like 'Tell me why your boy is not just a male stereotype' but it doesn't really matter because so many of these replies are answering that question anyway in such a nice way with real lie examples from their own boys.

I will never persuade the type of poster who thinks I should never have got pregnant (after I said how thrilled I was!) just because I dared to point out that in general the little girls I know are quite different to the little boys I know, and I've personally found them easier- in my own experience. That is my life experience and no amount of dusty academic literature is going to change it- sorry! And I'm the least likely person to bring up a boy in stereotypical way because as my OP said, I wouldn't know how to!

Bobsponge- so many kids! I love big families! Thanks.

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goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 13:13

Smilingsarahb- that is a very good point you make at the end.

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anxious2017 · 06/03/2017 13:16

But again, you say "to support his team". Children aren't there to manipulate into what you desire. Why couldn't your child support their own team or even not like football? My son absolutely detests football (he likes dance and drama) and even though my DH loves football, he has never once tried to encourage DS to watch it because he knows he doesn't want to. Your outlook is bizarre.

anxious2017 · 06/03/2017 13:17

And as for girls being easier - ha ha ha ha ha 😂

GavelRavel · 06/03/2017 13:19

I'm not at all girly so cant reassure you on that point, but I have boys and I think you're seriously missing a trick. They might grow into hairy alpha males but when they're little boys they are incredibly cuddly and affectionate and a bit needy tbh. Only a generalisation but the mothers I know are much closer to their boys than their girls in many ways.

For the clothes I always found plenty in H&M, Polarn o Pyret, Impkids and even Tesco. You may have to try and stop being so gender rigid though, there's lots of nice baby clothes out there.

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 13:31

Iwasjustabouttosaythat- Oh God! I wish people would read post properly. You are stereotyping me! ;)

I did NOT say that girls can't love science or maths. I said that I didn't like them. Nothing to do with how I was brought up. My sister is a physicist and loves adventure sports.

And what in my post made you think I'd bring up a boy to be a lad??!! That's hilarious. So far he has a collection of bunny rabbits and some powder blue, mint green and white collared romper suits. I don't think he'll be off to Sports Direct or leering at women anytime soon. LOL.

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strawberrypenguin · 06/03/2017 13:35

I think you'll find that is 'mum of boys types' are pissed off at yet another boy slagging off thread.

And they're always full of the same bullshit. 'I'm having a boy and the world is going to end because boys are smelly and loud and like cars and dinosaurs and I'm a pink princess'

So yes will get negative replies to your crappy stereotyping boy bashing thread.

AQuietMind · 06/03/2017 13:35

This is such a sad op. I hope you manage to work through your issues before your baby arrives.

anxious2017 · 06/03/2017 13:35

"Boy" colours then Biscuit

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 13:37

anxious2017- ufffff I don't know. I don't know why anyone supports a football team. I'm the worst person to ask. This isn't about my DH but I assure you he is just an incredibly nice kind man who wants his little boy to be happy and pursue his own interests. Like almost every person on the planet he'll be pleased if those interests coincide with his own.

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AssassinatedBeauty · 06/03/2017 13:41

OP, do you think you will "play with dolls, read girly books, decorate pretty things, style hair and share all the things I adored as a child" with your baby? As well as other things too, of course. I can't see any reason why you can't, to begin with, and then see what your child gravitates towards themselves.

goldenrachita · 06/03/2017 13:44

Anxious2017- they are just colours I prefer. White is surely neutral as it is possible to be!!? I love blue and wore mostly blue as a little girl myself (before pink became trendy). I LOVE red and burgundy on babies, especially in the winter but I couldn't find anything summery in those colours! And I prefer all babies in soft pastels rather than bright colours. Just my personal taste! :)

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