May Babies

[GeorginaA]

Have we got enough that I can officially open this thread yet?

How are your little ones doing prufrock, twiglett, snowbird?

I think mine is going down with jaundice. Dh isn't convinced, but it's either that or he's got a lovely tan sigh. I remember all the stress associated with that last time with ds1... hoping ds2 doesn't get it as badly.

He's still being a very sicky baby, about a couple of teaspoons a few hours after each feed (which is odd - I'd have thought if it was a reflux type thing it would happen immediately after the feed?) Midwife seems to think it'll settle after the milk comes in but if not then we'll look at some sort of baby gaviscon. Poor little mite, can't be comfortable for him... and we're sure getting through a lot of laundry!

Feel so bloody knackered at the moment, fed up of bits leaking and being sore, and it's only day 2! How long is it before you start feeling human again? Please tell me that it's sooner than the 2 week paternity leave dh gets!!

I was like that first time round Egypyt but am slightly more with it this time - only because DS is at nursery for 3 days. If I had them both all the time I probably wouldn't get dressed.

Yes Twiglett - gorgeous dress but £34!!! I sometimes think that I'm treating DD like a dolly dressing her up all the time. She has been bought sooo many clothes - much more than DS ever was.

I have 'em both all day every day. And DH is away tomorrow night. Boo. This morning they were both crying in their carseats by 10am and I didn't know who to console first! Decided to go for neither, put foot down and drove!

Oh that dress is so cute.

Well things here are settling down well. The windy-pops stuff certainly seems to have made a difference. Dd2 still has some wind but not as much as she started off with. Dare I say it but last night she went to sleep at 10pm woke for a feed at 3.30am then slept right through until 7.45am. Tonight I've put her down again at 10pm but I don't know if she's going to stay asleep, we'll see what happens.
She might get up again through the night, which could be considered a bit of a pain since she's been sleeping through from midnight until about 6/7am since she was born but I'll see how things go.

We're up to 2 bottles a day now and 4 feeds from me. Feeling a lot more human plus dh gets to feed her if he's here which is nice for him. The breast feeding is going very well now that dd2 seems to have got the hang of it and I know to keep an eye on her to see when she's finished. I feel a bit guilty about planning to have her on bottle by the time the schools finish, so I'll how things are going at the time.

Monday morning was interesting though. Dd2 had her bottle before bed on Sunday night and mother in law was here so she gave it to dd2. Dd2 then didn't burp afterwards, not for the want of us trying to burp her, and went straight to sleep. So we put her to bed and she slept through to 6am when she got up and I breast fed her, and after she'd finished she brought the whole of the feed straight back up all over me, it was everywhere!!! I can laugh about it now but at 6.30am it was no laughing matter. Dh woke up and said oh she's been sick I thought it was the other end, and I'm sitting there saying, go get me a towel quickly. Honestly, lol Of course I blame mother in law for this happening

Maybe going to pop into work tomorrow if dd2 is behaving, will see how things are going at the time.

I usually only get dd2 dressed first thing if we're going down to school in the morning. If not going to school then she stays in her pyjamas or a vest until it's time to go collect dd1 from school at 3pm.

Well, going to go to bed now since dd2 is still asleep try to get some shut eye before the next feed.

Had a peek at the photo's that have been posted and they are all so cute. Will have to find somewhere to post a photo of dd2 so I can show her off.

ok going to bed now, night all.

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hi guys,
please tell me it gets better. my life has changed so much. i dont even have time to have a wee... im knackered from carrying dd around all the time and shes also started grizzling through the night to be comforted so no sleep for me. breast feedings going well though and ive started expressing ready for when dp can give her 1 bottle on saturday morning to let me have a lie in. spots im also convinced i have real smiles. she does it when shes in a happy mood and i smile and talk to her, dp disagrees though

kbaby - it gets better!!

Yes, and this is me saying it - mrs grumpy pants. So it must be true!

Even though ds2 is still fairly unsettled, the cranial osteopathy seems to be doing its thing and he's been a lot less windy. Plus the breastfeeding is going even better now (he's really drinking well). He did sleep through a few nights (11pm - 7am) while he was unsettled during the day but now he's not exhausting himself he's gone back to feeding once or twice in the night, which bizarrely I'm actually happier about because I know he's getting his calories.

He'll settle now, in his cot, by himself with only a bit of fussing. It's hard work to get him to that point though - very small window before he gets overtired and the slightest noise while settling will scupper the entire sleep. However, it's possible now which was unthinkable a couple of weeks ago. Feel so much less stressed about it all.

Also, as he's well rested in general, if he does screw up a nap then it's not the whole day and the next few days that goes awry. He'll just catch up with himself after the next feed. As he's not crying as much, he's not getting as windy, so that's better.

So, still a very high maintenance baby, still quite stressful, but manageable and much more enjoyable. He's 5 weeks.

Hang on in there, kbaby

hello all, disappointed to find I can't open some photos... Twiglett is there a logging in secret attached to your pics?

We just finished a rather traumatic few days; on Sat. dd sicked up loads of blood...v. scary; we took her to the out of hours gp at local hosp and she was admitted to paediatric ward where we stayed till yesterday pm. She was put on a drip and I was only allowed to feed her for 5 mins every 2 hours. During this time we had 2 more bloody sicks but she appeared totally healthy. It took until yesterday to establish that the blood actually came from Me! Would have thought that was obvious possibility but my cracked nips are mostly healed so when the consultant looked to see them she said 'no there's too much blood to have come from there...' Anyway all very panicky and horrible. It's so good to be home. DD now feeding like a maniac presumably to re-esablish supply which is prb. a bit screwed up from the reduced feeding schedule... which in turn means my nipples are back to painful state...She has also been diagnosed with some degree of reflux, so Gaviscon and two other medicines to be given. (This seems odd to me as she was piling on the weight since birth so the reflux can't b THAT much of a problem can it? The medicines are a real pain to administer one-handed! and I don't fancy the idea of so much 'alien'stuff going into her wee body)

anyone any experience of reflux? Time for a new thread prob. But have medicines to deal with...

We are all a bit shell-shocked and feel like the last few days sort of got lost in a black hole.

jolly dee.

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I swear DS just giggled, it sounds lovely after the few hairy days we've had (the usual feeding, screaming, puking, screaming, feeding, etc etc. amplified by millions!) could that have been a growth spurt? I'm not sure . . .

He has been far more settled since Monday and we're all feeling a bit steadier on our feet now - he even behaved (a bit) for my birthday yesterday!

(had to laugh when DP told DS to let me do what I wanted - I don't think DS would've been too impressed with an absolutely slaughtered mum doing a tour of favourite Cambridge pubs whilst telling her best friend how much she loved her! so we stuck to just one pub and had a polite token glass outside instead)

Scared myself a bit by realising that I wasn't minding the newborn bit after all! He can be a darling at times!

Well after my post the other night about dd2 sleeping through from 10pm I was firmly put back in my place.

When I posted the other night dd2 had gone to sleep at 10pm. So I went to bed and when she woke up at 1.30am got up and got her bottle for her which she took quite the thing. Then she wouldn't go back to sleep! She got all windy and screamed and screamed and no amount of cuddling, winding, dummy or anything else would settle her. Dh slept through all of this! At 4,30am dh woke up as dd was lying in her cot screaming and I just couldn't face getting up again to settle her. Then she did the biggest poo you could possibly imagine and then she was fine. Of course I had to change her nappy and her clothes as it was all over everything but after that she went to sleep quite happily at 5am. Neddless to say I didn't make it to school in the morning made dh take dd1 and I went back to bed.

So Last night I made her stay up late watching big brother with me and she went to bed at midnight and slept until 7am, much better.

Spots sorry to hear that you've had a rough time the past few days. but good to hear that things are now getting better. Sorry I don't know anything about reflux.

Kbaby, it does get better. I sometimes think to myself will this never end as dd2 likes to be held during the day and only sometimes will lie happily on her mat, rest of the time she cries. But I tell myself I survived the first baby going through the early weeks I'm sure I'll do it again. It will get better and better as time goes on.

Is everyone else getting a HV coming to them every week until the baby is 8 weeks old? Our HV came to us last week and weighed dd2 and said she'd see us again this week but so far she hasn't shown up and she doesn't work on Fridays so if she doesn't come today then I don't know when we'll next see her.

dd2 still has spots they are on her cheeks and her forehead and in her hair and some are appearing round the back of her neck as well. When we were at ballet with dd1 on Monday another little girl looked at dd2 and asked if she had chicken pox!

Georgina, does your ds2 have reflux? I notice from you first post on this thread that he was being sick a few hours after each feed? Is this a sign of Reflux as dd2 does this quite often. She'll have a feed settle down but then be sick up to an hour to an hour and a half later.

ok gotta go feeding time again bye for now. Oh and Twigglet your kids are lovely

Spots, so sorry to hear about your traumatic few days, hope things are getting better now. I would agree that you may help her when lying down by putting a pillow under the matress so that her head is slightly elevated. I think it is meant to help all newborns so that the milk can drain down and not filter back, causing heartburn.
I think DS is getting more alert as we are careering towards 6 weeks old. He will now give more than a cursory bleary glance towards his toys..although he makes it very obvious when he's been over stimulated! What are people with 2 children doing during the day? I've tried to keep our morning activities going that I used to do with DD but then in the afternoons I get a bit stuck finding things that I can do with both of them. We tend to just stay at home and get people to come round and play, or else I get too lonely (doesn't help that at 2y6m, DD is still frustratingly non-verbal!!)

I have no idea - sometimes I think he does, othertimes I'm not so sure. I do think he's quite sicky at the moment, but I think it's more due to him comfort sucking too much and taking too much food in. It also goes in phases - sometimes he doesn't spit up for ages, sometimes it bothers him, sometimes it doesn't.

TBH, I've just got to the point where I'm ticking the days off the calendar . Had a dreadful night yesterday ourselves.

Judd: can't really help. We're almost completely relying on TV and DVDs at the moment, much to my shame. I totted up how much TV ds1 is watching a day yesterday and gave myself a right shock...

Linnet as a diagnosed mother of reflux baby I'll tell you that my DD is sick almost immediately after feeding. Think the muscle in question is quite near the top of the oesophagus so if your DD is being sick after an hour it's prob. not the same thing. I'm a bit confused about reflux though. Not sure when normal sickiness qualifies as reflux. Georgina how would you classify your sicky baby on the sicky baby scale??

Twiglett lovely babes...Maddy has sweet little solemn face!

hard to say spots. Sometimes it's up to an hour afterwards, sometimes immediately. Sometimes it bothers him and he cries and is obviously finding the taste unpleasant, othertimes it just sort of seeps out the corner of his mouth with him hardly noticing. Sometimes it's accompanied by a burp, sometimes it isn't. Sometimes it's every feed, some days he doesn't sick up at all!

It's not huge quantities (i.e. not whole feed or anything) and he's gaining weight well, so on the whole I'm not too worried, and don't really want to be pouring extra medicine down the poor mite's throat - he's already getting a fair cocktail of infacol & teething granules! I'll probably mention it to the doc at my 8 weeks appt if it's still noticeable then and see what she says. Of course, if she does say it's reflux then I'll feel horribly guilty that I hadn't done anything for it previously...

Twiglett, your little ones are angels - no wonder you want another! I could spend hours staring at their faces! they look like they know the world and its secrets already.

I wondered if DS had reflux, I have taken to feeding him with his head higher and burping after a few slurps - he has been happier since although we still get the sick at times. I agree with "draining the milk down into him", it seems to make a difference. He had his first bus ride yesterday and slept all the way (it takes about 45 mins to get into Cambridge), screamed like a bugger when we popped into the courts to say hi though! The bus driver (bless him) was very proud of his careful driving and commented to me whilst getting off the bus "I weren't bad was I? and he's been my passenger by far"

Reuben seems to spend most his time laughing at me, which says it all really. What toys do you stimulate them with? I have used the baby gym and not much else - although he has a soft toy collection that begs belief (we only bought two toys!)

Personally I think we are all doing a flipping brilliant job! xxxxx

(and we are not in the BB house after last night's hoohah so it can't be all bad)

hi everyone,
Just found this thread after a very desperate posting this morning!
libb- I believe you left me a message on it, asking if I wanted to meet, it would be really nice. Well done for getting the bus all that way! I'm to nervous to do that on my own, though I have been into cambridge on the bus with dp, and I'm only about 10 minutes outside!
Wow, so many of saying your d's are giggling/smiling, I don't think mine has done that yet, it will be so nice to see!
Does anyone else feel like it will be a lot nice when they start to interact a bit more? feel quite bad for saying that

btw libb- mine has a play mat that I use to attempt to stimulate her with, she quite likes it, it plays music and there's a toy that vibrates on it, she seems to like looking at it. (i think!)

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DS doesn't seem too fussed by his gym but will happily let food dribble on to it from the corner of his mouth - charming!

I am also looking forward to some proper interaction - he sleeps most the time (apart from the spat recently) but certainly lets me know when he wants attention!

Where do you live Cat82, I can come and see you if you like? get in touch with me if you would like to.

My ruddy DP has decided to watch the footie at the pub tonight - I am afraid I gave him what for yesterday as it was my birthday and he sulked about missing the football that was on then, he then turns round today and tells me he wants to appreciate some pub atmosphere for the England game so he won't be home till late - I've told him where to stick his football - (deep breaths, I can get over this . . . .) I can be such an ogre at times!

Flipping men! Pah! except for DS, he is a darling . . .

libb, have sent a message to you with my mail address. as I'm new to this I'm not sure how to personaly contact you apart from this!
Fortunatly mine is to much into football! I think you're nice not kicking up more of a fuss about letting him go to the pub, personaly I'm still in the "i didn't drink for 9 months and you did, it's my turn now" phase

Glad you found us Cat82! Rest assured, if you read down this thread you will find that some of us are not embracing the newborn stage and are looking forward to a bit of interaction! Got to go, toddler and baby to get through "Happy Hour" as 5pm ish is in our house! (DH supportively in Torquay until 9pm, I am in Stockport)