Straw poll, Bedtime and wake up time

[Alibongo33]

My children are 3y4m and 2y1m. What time do you similarly aged children wake up and go to bed. My eldest is not settling at night wandering around her bedroom, shouting for a drink, do a poo, not tired, wants to play etc. She has bath at 6.30pm and story finished by 7pm when I leave the room.
My youngest has the same routine but now he isn't settling but chatters to himself or bangs his cot rails!
They are some days waking up around 8.30am which is going to prove a problem come September when the eldest transfers to morning nursery.

Is the light nights disturbing them? Is their bedtime too early or should I wake them up earlier?

Any thoughts?
Thank you

My 21mo old has bath about 6:50, stories from 7:15 sleep at 7:30.

Wakes between 6:30 and 7:30. Usually 7 unless he's hungry from not eating enough dinner or in a growth spurt.

My 16 month goes down by 7 and wakes 6.30 - 7.

I am very lucky with good bedtimes but still jealous of OPs 8.30 wake up!

We have more or less the same routine as you have - supper, wash/bath, story, teeth and bed by 7, up at anywhere between 6.30 and 8. Mine are 2.8 and 4.1. They're in separate rooms (sorry I'm not clear from your op whether yours are in together or separate) and I sort one whilst dh does the other so they're not disturbing each other.
If ds (the eldest) isn't feeling sleepy, or if he wakes up early, he is allowed to read or play quietly in his room (dd is normally out like a light as soon as her head hits the pillow).
We have blackout blinds and curtains and this has helped with the lighter mornings and evenings and we also close all the downstairs curtains at around 6pm to help with settling them down for bedtime.
We don't stop the youngest from napping if she needs it - in fact, the daytime nap seems to help her get a better night's sleep; and if they seem tired we send them to bed earlier.
We try to get outside in the afternoon if possible because the fresh air does help with making them more tired and sleepy in the evening.
Apart from suggesting that you try similar ideas, I don't know what else may help. Could you keep the eldest up a little later so the youngest can get to sleep before being disturbed? Do you think a reward system, such as a sticker for staying in bed, would help? I saw Supernanny stay upstairs and, in silence, keep putting the kids back to bed as soon as they get out. Things like going for a poo can't really be avoided (ds does this too) but could you just have a potty and wipes, a sports bottle of water, a light snack such as a biscuit, a pile of books and a nightlight in the room help with some of the excuses?

My 2.10yo has a bath at about 7pm. Story and milk follow and she's usually in bed by 8 or shortly thereafter. Depending on how tired she is she either drops off straight away or chatters and "reads" for ages!! She never gets out of bed though, we're pretty strict about that.

Wakes up any time between 7 and 8.30, usually nearer 7.30 than 8.30...

Dc3 is 3.1yrs, he has never been an early to bedder so he is usually asleep by 8.30 and wakes up between about 7.30 and 8.15, which, when you think about it is around 11 hours sleep so that's plenty. He has a bath every other night or every other other night depending on what's happening, then stories at 8 in bed, cuddle kiss goodnight. No getting out of bed at all but occasional shouting for something or other.

This is a huge improvement on the 9.15/9.30pm that we used to have . He just doesn't fall asleep any earlier and isn't overly happy to be lying in his bed for too long waiting to drift off so we leave it until later to do the bedtime thing.

His older sisters were both 7/7.30pm bedders right up until about 7yrs old!

2.3 yo DD has bath 6.30, story and bed by 7pm. Usually wakes 6.30-8am. Also sleeps 2hrs at lunchtime.
DN is 6.6 yo and still has bedtime at 7! Like DD, he likes and needs his sleep and DSis likes her evenings!!

My ds is 19months and he goes up at 7, in cot for 7 30, asleep for 8ish. this suits us as he then sleeps till 8/8 30 and I'm a sahm so I like the lie in!! He also naps 12-2.

My DD 17 months goes to sleep 7-7.30pm and wakes at 5 ready for the day , she has never been a good sleeper and has only now started to sleep through the night.

My DS just turned 3 goes to bed at 7:30 but if he's had a nap during the day it may take him until 8:30 to actually get to sleep. He wakes around 6am but will get into bed with us and usually sleep for another hour or so.
On work days I'm usually up by 6:15 so this has made his wake time earlier.

My 3yr old starts wind down at 6.30, in bed with a story by 7, and she stays in bed all night, waking between 6.30 - 7am which is when I get her up. All children are so different though, some children need less sleep I think. If my DD starts wandering around her room, I go up and give her a book to look at

2.2 and 4.10 here.
Bath at 6.15, lights off 7, asleep I reckon 7.02. They share a room.
Youngest wakes first, 6.30-7.30. She naps during the day though.
Eldest wakes 7.30-8.30

It's awesome tbh

My twins are 2.8, bedtime is 7pm/7:15pm, I wake them between 7:30/8am depending on when we have to be out the house. They have a 2 hour afternoon nap. Mine have always needed a lot of sleep.

Dd 2.7. Is put to bed for 7, sometimes faffs about in her room so asleep around quarter past no later than half past. Usually awake between 6.30 and 7.30 although 6 happens now and again and 8 happens once in a blue moon! No nap

8am! Very jealous of those of you who have children who sleep past 6! Ours go to bed at 7pm, and are awake between 6-6.30. 7 is a positive lie-in, but 8 sounds amazing!

16mo - bath at 7.00, cot at 7.30, either wakes once and is a nightmare to settle or sleeps through, up at 6am. Today was 5.15am and DH is about to leave for all day golf, it's going to be a bloody long day.

It's a rare child who will sleep 7-8:30 (maybe the 2 year old without a nap?). So you need to decide, either 8:30-8:30 or 7-7 (or something in the middle). Personally I would go with the child's natural rythem so just push bedtime later.

DD3 is 3 and a big half and goes to bed at 7pm. She is looking like a night owl though as she often chatters, sings and plays for ages after lights out. In the morning she is the grumpiest individual you could ever meet and needs about half an hour to moan loudly to herself and anyone else in earshot while getting up - this is usually around 7.30 am. Nursery mornings are indeed a struggle which I cope with by largely carrying on cheerfully as normal ignoring her less than sunny disposition. She is a joy by lunchtime though!

We start our 18 month old's routine at 6.30pm- bath, stories, teeth etc. He is normally asleep by 7pm without too much trouble luckily. He then gets up anytime between 5am and 5.30am.

I have tried pushing his bedtime back but it just doesn't work- he is absolutely exhausted by then so he is majorly overtired, which then means it takes over an hour to go to sleep and he still wakes up at 5.30am anyway! When he is awake he is properly awake and super energetic and happy, so he has obviously had enough sleep.

He is just an early riser I suppose. I just drink lots of coffee and try to go to bed a bit earlier!

DD, 3, and DS, 8mo, both go to bed at 7pm. DD wakes at 6.30-ish, DS usually around 7am. He naps well, she no longer does.

You could maybe try waking her incrementally earlier? So 8am for a few days, then 7.45, 7.30 etc. and hope that bedtime sorts itself out?

my 2 year old had the same routine for a year, goes to bed (and is asleep) between 8:30 and 9pm (daddy comes home late), and wakes up between 7:30 and 9:00 (occasionally 10am when I forgot my alarm clock and don't wake him up)
He has 1 hour, 1 hour 1/2 nap at midday

We don't have an evening, but if he was going to bed at 6pm, I couldn't do the same, and I am too tired to be up at 6am.