please correct me if I'm wrong but...

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It is never ok to make up formula milk with water direct from the tap is it???

Just asking because have witnessed something at work today that I was concerned by but I just want to make sure I am right before I go in to work tomorrow to make my point fairly forcefully!

Xxx

It's not advised, but everyone has their own way.. Which may not be right..

we put freshly boiled water into the bottles, then left them on the side for a day.. Or two, and then dumped in the formula and shook when we needed it

If someone had had a go at me I would have been mortified, my dp worked out what we should be doing, and told me, he clearly misunderstood and I never bothered to check.. Although my dd has always been fine.. I'd always assume they don't know what they are doing is wrong, particularly with a new mother!

Sorry that does seem like I'm going to tell off an individual mother. I should gave explained better, I work at a nursery and what I saw was done by members of staff! Xxx

No because of the bacteria in the formula. You need the boiled water to kill it. How old is the child though? And what do you mean at work?

A member of staff? Really?? I'd be pulling them up on it.

Apart from bacteria in milk powder, they also have to have boiled water until 6 months.

Was it one of those boiling water taps you get in some offices?

Yes I was shocked but just wanted to be sure I was right before saying anything to my manager xxx

No it was just an ordinary tap!

NHS guidelines on making up formula. Maybe you could suggest some all-staff training.

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/making-up-infant-formula.aspx#close

www.nhs.uk/Conditions/pregnancy-and-baby/pages/making-up-infant-formula.aspx#close

She could make a baby ill.

Just thought I would check, as I did state at someone making up cup of tea then fill the cup from the tap, but it was a boiling water tap.
Yeah that's not right then, I've seen people full up bottles from the tap then microwave them as well.
Not something I would do either, as presumably been a lot of research done to advertise the best way on the tub,I can't understand why people like to mix it up.

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It's definitely wrong and working in a nursery, she should know better. She could make a baby really ill.

I would mention it. That's not how to make up formula, it needs to be made with water that has been boiled and left to cool slightly (but NOT cold, needs to be above 70 degrees). As Meringue said, it sounds like a good opportunity for staff training. That's unacceptable in a care setting, IMO.

Not arguing with the original post - filling from the tap is definitely not on - but regarding the temperature the water has to be when it hits the formula, Hipp changed their advice about a year ago when they started putting probiotic stuff in theirs. Now they recommend letting the water cool to 50 degrees before adding it (I assume because there are proteins or whatever that they don't want being denatured by near-boiling water). I don't know about the others though.

50 degrees doesnt kill bacteria though and hipp are therefore going against formula making guidelines. It is therefore a trade off I.e. do you want probiotics or formula free from bacteria

I wouldn't be happy if I found out if nursery staff were making bottkes up this way.
I used to take pre made bottles up to nursery as all they had to do was heat it up. it was freshly made on the day!
staff should know better.what else could they be doing wring is going through my mind

I guess it depends how old the child is. These days some toddlers stay on follow on formula for far longer than they need for everything to be sterile. Although surely you'd still need to at least partially boil it, in order for it to mix and dissolve properly.

toomuchtooold HIPP's advice on their packaging is wrong. You should always make formula up with water at at least 70oC. All formula is the same and has to be by law. But hey the health of babies doesn't matter to them, does it?

I'm have a word with your boss. Your college can make a baby seriously ill making up a bottle like 0that

There are several formulas on the market which do not require the water to be 70 degrees or above - usually anti reflux ones or ones for other conditions - in fact SMA staydown requires the formula to be mixed with chilled water! The instructions on both Aptimel and Cow and Gate anti reflux formula state it should be mixed with hand hot water. Not saying this worker wasn't wrong but to say all formula needs to be mixed with boiling water to kill the bacteria is wrong. Never really understood how the advice can be so contradictory but that is the case.