My toddler just fed my 14wk old baby a lump of butter

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She's on the naughty step she's been hellish this week and now this. Googling like mad will he be ok?? Want to avoid HV but should i ring? X

Haha great, are you a secret HV this is exactly why I didn't ring them.

Why because they'd question putting your2 year old on the naughty step?

Babies are surprising robust. Just think of all the really thick people whose children manage to reach adulthood. I know someone who gave her babies chips at 6 weeks and she is a granmother. (The lady in question is in her thirties!)

If a young baby eats something it will most likely pass through the gut completely undigested. Prehaps your baby will have constipation or diaheraa and might be miserable with a sore tummy.

If you are still exclusively breastfeeding then virgin gut should heal itself.

I think at two year olds are still babies and its not unfair to use the naughty step for giving food to the baby.

MIL gave mine gravy made with Bisto once. He's now 6 foot and eats like a horse. That Bisto has a lot to answer for.

No because they would patronise me and tell me to keep food out of reach n to not leave them alone for a minute. We all know that's what we should do but sometimes it's not practical

Remember my baby sister falling off the bed when she was one and it being my fault because I was told to watch her.I must have been six.Another time a different sister fell off her trike and again I felt it was my fault because I was supposed to be watching.Its too much responsibility to place on a young child.I know how hard it is to have to bring either of them with you when you go to the loo but it is better than the older child feeling bad of guilty for something that they don't really understand.My older dd would seem to know wrong from right but the urge to 'mind' her baby sister might be too much for her!

Jeez OP you're getting a right pasting on here! Glad your DS is ok.

My DD 2.10 can understand pretend and real, maybe not fully but enough to know when I've asked her not to do something and when it's being naughty etc.
The naughty step doesn't work for us but she gets put up in her room for a minute or two (same principle).
Perhaps it was a but harsh to put her there but you know what you have a toddler and a newborn and no one can be perfect. Also if you react firmly with the butter (harmless in the scheme of things) then hopefully she will remember when she's about to feed money/buttons or whatever into your DS and stop!
Good luck, I have this yet to come.

anyfucker, the baby will be fine & so will your dd, just because you put her on the naughty step doesn't make you monster mother.
Your child, your parenting choices. You'll never get everyone agreeing with you/

Stop having a go at the op . She isn't stupid. My 2 year old understands and needs the naughty step quite frequently as he can be a very naughty boy !

Reallytired what has the age of the grandmother got to do with anything?

Not having a go at the OP, but I do think that 2yr olds don't fully understand what they are doing. Am not a fan of the naughty step actually. It never worked well for us.

The OP is not getting 'a pasting'. A small minority of posters have suggested that 2 year olds don't fully understand the difference between pretending and real, or playing at feeding a baby, with or without real food. And I don't believe they do. Which is different to saying 2 year olds can't understand that there are some things you do not want them to do.

"Do not touch the TV, ever" is a simple instruction
"You can pretend to feed the baby but don't use real food or really put it in his mouth, just pretend" is much harder. especially if the child is hoping to 'help' by feeding the baby, or simply copying a 'pretend lets have tea' game that she and mummy play. If she wanted to do something BAD to the baby she would have hurt him.

It's a discussion, a point of view.

Oh ffs. No it's not practical to never leave a baby alone for a minute. It bloody well is to keep items out of reach.

This is not about "patronising" anyone or giving someone a pasting. Categorising a 2 year old's actions in this regard as naughty and wrong is just ignorance about how developmentally able they are to understand
the concept of pretending in an adult like fashion. It's not mean to say that, it's just bald fact like saying a six month old can't talk in sentences.

I've no issue with telling dd it isn't right etc. I tell ds (18 mths) no no no for walloping his brother but ultimately I know it's a very different kettle of fish in terms of intention and motivation than if ds1 (4) hits him first. They are just bigger babies and it's a pain but you can't expect verbal explanation is going to stop them doing things that are unintentionally dangerous. It's just the way it is.

"Reallytired what has the age of the grandmother got to do with anything?"

Inspite of the grandmother being as thick as pig shit, her daugther has got an age (ie. 15 year old) where she is capable of having a baby. The grandmother was also very young with questionable parenting skills.

The human race would have died out if babies were half as delicate as some mumnetters make out.

On an aside, I don't think that a two year old language skills are strong enough to under stand "Do not touch the TV". A child with limited language skills will only remember part of the phrase. ie. the last 3 words "touch the TV". Most two year olds are barely putting words together themselves and certainly can't understand complex sentences. It is better to say to a two year old "Babies have milk only" than "Do not give the baby crisps".

Ahh that's nothing. A few weeks ago DD led her 8mo brother under the table and proceeded to feed him a bar of soap. He's fine, it's all fine.

She understands it's not ok to feed him things but equally she is role playing. She is copying me, has seen me feed him things and is trying to look after him. I didn't punish because I want to channel that desire in her to look out for him and look after him as opposed to resent him or get jealous for my attention etc. I've given her jobs to do that help with looking after her brother because she wants to look after him. They play together well and love each other.

There'll be far worse than this. I won't go into the day that I came down to find she had taken her nappy off and they were both playing with her poo. I'd been out the room two minutes! They both went in the bath and lived to tell the tale.

Just accept that things will happen. Be prepared to clean them up. Kids learn through making mistakes. Let them make mistakes. As long as you know you've moved all the really dangerous and hazardous stuff then you know they are safe, if messy and naughty and jaw droppingly daft sometimes.

I think two is too young for the naughty step personally. At that age it is rarely them being naughty.

As usual turns into a thread trying to preach fucking parenting skills. I didn't ask about opinions on naughty step, it works great for us and always has. My 2 yr old is 3 at the end of feb and is incredibly intelligent she knows right and wrong and certainly knows about pretending. Like I said she may have meant well but I think she needed to recognise her behaviour was wrong hence the punishment. I am not stupid or in need or advice, I parent using using evidence based research and good old advice when I ask for it.

I don't get it.

I read lots of threads where people complain about naughty children not being shown the consequences of their actions.

When exactly is the time to show that something is naughty and what exactly should that something be?

I only have one child so might be talking out my arse but it never occurred to me that the point of the OP was about the toddler.

I have no idea how I would respond but it seems odd that so many (I don't this it is a minority) seem to have focused on this.

What should OP do then considering if it wasn't butter it could have been something inedible or a choke hazard? Surely the toddler needs to get that this is dangerous in some way?

Genuine question because I might need to know this some day.

Sorry, I meant to put 'naughty children' in quotes.

Any my toddler is the same age as yours and yes he understands he shouldn't feed the baby too. Mines older, 10 months now but occasionally the toddler will give him things he shouldn't when I'm out the room. Very rare though as he doesnt like to share

Thanks passme!! Totally my point. My DD at one point thought wolloping the cat was fun but after a chat then doing it a second time then the naughty step she had never done it since. WTF

Oh and I know how some of mn feel about playpens, but the baby cage is one of the best things we have. Especially as I sometimes have to clean, make dinner, put clothes away etc and you cant watch them all the time.

Yey! A baby cage that will do the trick!

Honestly, a lovely mnetter gifted me mine on a thread and its great! I can nip and do things that need to be done and the baby can play with his toys without the toddler trying to 'show' him what to do or take things off him

...(off to eBay baby cage )