Grow old with me! The best is yet to be. Come and join the 40+ mums plus babies, toddlers etc in the snug where tea, cake and sympathy are being served.

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We are 40+ mummies sharing all the highs and lows of our autumn crocus babies. Also sharing tips and information (most crying is tiredness!) and jokes. Please join us!

None are so old as those who have outlived enthusiasm
You are only young once, but you can stay immature indefinitely
It's sad to grow old, but nice to ripen.

PS this thread title was created by eagleray, and she also found the quotes.

What on earth??!! That was "feeling any better", Lrm!

hello ladies. it took more than four mints to fill the last thread, and c three weeks to pass 300 mark this time. I'm smiling wryly that meeting up seems to.increase chatter

DD is okay today. She is actually a brave soul and announces.to Dh this morning that her nose was all better, bless her. It is a bit bruised, as are her eyes, and am still cleaning blood from her nose gradually, but no crisis. Except that she randomly turned on the light at 3.30am and spent an hour reading her new Peppa Pig magazine so is bound to be grumpy...luckily cm better so gets the grumps

Talking of brave souls, had a Eureka moment when realised T's new habbit of waking more must be teething: he sort of chatters and chews his.monkey for ages and gradually gets a bit feisty until I go and feed (mostly to keep dd asleep). Cough not helping.either. So last night went up and gave my shuffling gnawing little boy a spooon of Calpol and he looked up and gave the sweetest grin. Which was clever as he then got a great bellyfull.of milk too just an hour after last one. hmmm.

cycle and goat so feel for you about medical profession and feeding issues. No helpful advice bit please come to vent and have strengthening sympathy when needed. cycle another that weaned c 5 mo and also had refluxy problems greatly helped, though obs pribs might have been different. I have done more trad weaning but T has this week finally managed to do finger foods so plan to mix it up more. I weaned DD in my usual hit and miss half educated way and she is as food or bad a eater as any toddler - mostly actually v good now, though I spent a year working on fruit and veg!

Would love to see pics of babyCycle on fb soon

pS goat you were sort of meant to laugh at yesterday's whinge fest. after my couple if weeks of not coping v well am.back to my usual mode of finding stuff like that comically awful

Good to hear brave little DD is doing ok Scarecrow and loving the magazine reading! I guess Peppa Pig is the equivalent of Twinkle in our day (showing age now)

Your night sounds shocking Goat - I really wish a hospital would set up a screaming/sleep clinic for babies so that all these poor parents aren't constantly fobbed off by HCPs. There's a long-running thread on MN regarding night screaming/digestive problems that's been a lot of help to my friend who's currently having issues - let me know if you want a link to it.

Somewhere - that's sound advice from Knotty regarding DS and his slightly less than enthusiastic attitude to DD!

Hope you have a lovely night out Knotty - I'm sure Rosa will be just fine

Cyclecamper are you vegetarian then? I am and have mostly weaned DD on veggie food so far, although she has meaty dinners at nursery now. DP has gone on a bit about how he doesn't want her to be vegetarian and I've told him he's more than welcome to make sensible meals for her to introduce her to meat, but so far he hasn't bothered... I think the weaning advice differs from one place to the next (and possibly also depending on who you actually speak to!). Overheard the HV telling a puzzled mum that BLW was the ONLY recommended way to do it. I've just made things up as I've gone along - veg and fruit purees at the very beginning, then graduating to mushy meals, then ones with a few chunks in. Hope you get a job sorted out soon - small obstacles can seem insurmountable when you've got a young baby to look after. Do you advertise yourself online? I had a cv updating session earlier in the week - was dreading it but managed to get it done in 30 mins in the end (needs must with napping baby!). Also have a spreadsheet for job enquiries etc I've made and any other jobhunting-related tasks - makes me feel like I've achieved something even if no one wants to hire me.

We were supposed to be going on holiday in Sept but it got pushed back by various other things. We're now in a bit of a now or never situation - end of season for many resorts, about to start work (possibly) and prices shoot up at the end of the month, so looks like we might be leaving the country on Tuesday!! Found flights to Turkey for £90, and would head to a very quiet resort that we know well. Feeling slightly daunted by holiday prep but keep thinking of sunshine, the smell of orange blossom and some blue sea and DP insisting we live on sandwiches and oranges nicked from the local fields to save money

Oh, and need to tell you about my poo stories - 2 already today and it's barely lunchtime.

First poo of the day leapt out of nappy and onto the floor.

Second poo of the day emerged when undressing DD at baby clinic, in crowded room with a queue for the scales. Nice!

Oh oh slow down, I can't keep up.
Scarecrow, very glad you are seeing positive side again, has your sore throat left you alone ? DD is very brave indeed, she might stay bruised and she will remember not to drive in a wall again. DS does that on his balance bike but with his helmet on, he found it funny ! Actually, I did smile too. He split his chin though with his scooter when he landed on his chin, he was a bit scared for a few weeks of his scooter but it is all forgotten, he now races downhill with his classmates, and I am not smiling anymore, I run after him.
Cycle, Goat, I don't know what to say. Apart from being here to listen and hand holding.
Knotty, enjoy the night out, Rosa will be delighted to spend a few hours with your friend, I m sure....
LRM, when DS started nursery, for a whole year, I lterally was off work every 3 weeks for a week 2 weeks after I resumed, he suffered one cold after another, actually the GP advised me to take some time off to stay with him so that he could fully recover, although DS had antibiotics only once. Sleep and rest were the best cure. I hope you feel better too.

The nursery visit went well, the principal and I are old friends, kind of, so she was very honest about what was in place and working or what wasn't. They have no specialised teacher atm, there should be Literacy and Science and Music and Art teachers, they only have a sport coach right now. but A won't really benefit from te first 2 until she is 2.5/3 yo anyway. question is : A just settled well, sleeping and eating, should I take her away ? When DH is not travelling he drops her and DS does not need to walk back and forth morning and afternoon. DH won't be travelling until March and April 2014, but then it will be for 10 days each time. I have asked DH to get his mum and auntie to come then to give me a hand with walking DS to school as they don't speak English while I'll deal with A's drop offs/pick ups. If that works, I guess I won't be moving her to the new nursery until Sep 2014. Which gives her time to enjoy her present nursery, where she is well looked after being DS's sister, he was very popular, bless. Which means I also have more time to get feedbacks from other mums. And the new nursery to deal with what is missing atm. And I will probably save 6 weeks of nursery fees over the summer, London childcare cost is outrageous.
How amazing, as I write things down, the solution looks perfect....

Off to meeting with DS's classmate's Mums, birthday organisation.....

Oo yes please to the link, eagle

Right. Off to feed the mobile and voracious dustbin currently standing in the kitchen doorway looking very hopeful...

Just popping in v quickly to say hi. Rl a bit crazy. .. We still up for sw meet on Tuesday? ?? Hugs to all. Will catch up when i get home. Xx

Tbanks ladies for hugs. Baby m is getting there slowly. I am exhausted beyond believe. I went to the loo earlier and threw the whole roll in the loo. Also keep doing random things marmite jar in the freezer. Get to the shops and come home with out what I went out for. I did get dressed today and put on old size 22 knickers. Size 14 now so abit floppy but thought bollocks there on now.

Good to see you lrm. Glad things are improving, although slowly. Hope your dp is being helpful!
Btw keep forgetting to say Rosie, I am in London, so can't do an sw meet... Would love to meet you all!

lrm lol re Grundy pants story. Made me chuckle.

Looking after my ds today cause of the strike and we have reconnected. He made me piss myself with laughter when he was doing something quite naughty (playing with a fallen lamp As I breastfed). He came over and kissed my hand then said ,why you looking like that mummy (face screwed up with sentiment).

eagle the poo stories are even finer now we know how angelic eaglet looks!

Ps knotty I did get him to say he finds dd annoying sometimes. Thank you!!!!!

Some advice please
Last few days have been crazy and so far removed from our usual (non) routine
Well dd has stopped feeding. 2 boobs only today and No night feeds last night. ( I didn't sleep through) she is screening if i put her near the boob and has bitten several times. ALL she wants is her thumb. :( she's also sleeping lots.

Is it just all the moving around (different places every night) she's not had a decent feed in days.
Please reassure me when we get home she will settle down

Oh i am also very ot. Been living on crap take a ways, coffee, and other people's stress for a week! !!

Oh gosh Rosie no advice from me but hope some wise words will sent your way very soon.

Rosie/Pudding - oh hell - just realised the meetup is the same day we are supposed to be flying! I'm supposed to be booking the flights tonight so as long as this doesn't go wrong, then I'm afraid I'll no longer be able to make it

Somewhere your reconnection day with DS sounds lovely

LRM you poor thing - we've had a spate of misplaced items in our household recently. DP put the icecream in the fridge, and also found the coffee jar in there too after much hunting and initially blamed me then realised he was the culprit. I've put orange juice in my coffee recently too. As for the oversized drawers - get rid! You are lovely and slim now and need to wear small pants!

Goat what a very cute mobile dustbin you have!

BBD you have jolted me into reality regarding nursery illnesses - I keep forgetting that it's almost inevitable that they get every illness going when they start nursery. Problem is, I would probably lose my job if I had to take a lot of time off, so need to think things through carefully. Although DP would probably have more flexibility as he's an employee, he's 2 hours away when at work so won't be able to help that much. God it's so difficult!

We nearly had poo drama no. 3 earlier - took her nappy off and she quickly snatched at it. I instinctively pulled to get it away from her, and the whole thing went ping! but thankfully the contents stayed inside and weren't catapulted across the room.

rosie I would go to doctor ASAP. It's much discussed on mumsnet so search. And im sure its just another phase. But belt and braces and all that. Dehydration would be the main worry.

Rosie so sorry to hear that. Sounds v stressful. When are you home? You might find as soon as you are home she is okay again, but if not, or if you are not going home v soon (like today?!) then I would, as Somewhere suggests, go to the doctor tomorrow first thing. They should give you an appointment v quickly with such a small baby. In the meantime, see if she would accept a little bit of water off a spoon/sippy cup or a syringe? Even tiny amounts. Two feeds will keep her going, so no need for panic, but as Somewhere suggests, gives you reassurance.

Also, Rosie, do you give her a bottle? I remember DD struggling to BF when v young and she had a cold, and she took the bottle so I did ebm for a couple of days.

Goat the links is here

It's long, and covers several years but there's some interesting ideas on there. Recurring themes seem to include disbelief of doctors, plus onions identified as culprit for many. Also lots of discussion about lactose/fructose intolerances.

Thank you ladies, we have just got home after a hideous 5hour car journey, we will go to gp am. somewhere dehydration! I feel so stupid for not even thinking about this made me remember i have said 3 times today that she smells of wee! (That old lady smell)she has just sunk 2 (very engorged) boobs, so not quite so panicked/stressed For now. Fontal (sp) not independent and skin all still plump.
I've just put her down and she's gone straight to sleep (sucking her thumb loudly) will definitely go to gp. Feel really bad as i feel th have been so busy with other people I've not paid her enough attention :(
Also sure teething is upon us!
Thank you again ladies for the wake up call and sound advice.

Indented not independent???

Morning
We have gp at 11.30
Role reversal last night! I kept waking her up lol she wouldn't really wake (not in a worrying way)and wouldn't feed. She has taken a feed this morning thankfully. Dh thinks she's fine but I want her checked. SShe's unusually sleepy and not feeling well.... God i hope they don't fob me off. ... not in the mood for stress today :(

I'm Sooooo fuckin tired!

Rosie, hope you get lots of reassurance from GP. I tend to stay home lots so that A's routine is not too disturbed, we argue with DH about that as he always wants to go away for short trips and travelling with the horror of packing and feeding schedule just put me off!
Eagle, have you bought your ticket to Turkey?
Midget, when are you back to work ? Sorry if it makes you feel sad.
LRM, are you and baby Monkey feeling better today ?

Off with DS to buy his birthday presents. Not taking him to Hamleys, for sure. His party is on Sat, a bit stressed as not received deliveries from Amazon yet.....

Rosie how did it go at the GP?

Sorry for my radio silence, battling extreme tiredness. Baby KK has taken to having very disturbed sleep 2 till 4 for the past 2 nights. Am now doing some gentle sleep training. He certainly self settles at bedtime and naptime but think that's because he's so damn tired. No idea what this middle of the night phase is about, but hope it buggers off soon