Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Parenting

For free parenting resources please check out the Early Years Alliance's Family Corner.

Sometimes I wish I wasn't a mother

61 replies

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:24

When I had DS, I felt instantly that being a mum was right for me. I got loads of confidence, we got on really well and spent 3 years very close and very happy.

Then DD was born. She has been a bloody nightmare from the word go: not sleeping (at all, ever, and no I am not exaggerating and no, there was nothing 'wrong' with her).

The first 10 months of her life were the worst of mine, our marriage nearly broke up and worst of all my relationship with my DS utterly changed. From having limitless patience and enjoying being with him, I now had none and couldn't wait to get away from both of them.

DD is now 16mo and is mostly a lot happier. Once she could walk, and we cracked sleeping, she stopped screaming 90% of the time. But she is extremely strong-willed, already has the most incredible tantrums, won't eat properly, won't nap during the day - unless she's with her childminder, in which case she eats fine and has 3 hour naps.

Her childminder, who also looked after DS, loves her but admits she is the most challenging child she's looked after.

Anyway, I feel like I am a rubbish mother. My relationship with DS never really recovered, I feel like I used up my store of patience when DD was tiny and he now hits and hurts her all the time, so I end up shouting. Every day is a huge battle, with both of them.

I don't like spending time with them. I look back on the mother I was when DS was born and see someone I would love to be again, but also someone I don't recognise. I feel like these children are not my own; that they must belong to someone else because I just don't understand why they have to be so horrible. And that shocks me, because DS and I were once so close.

I am fed up trudging around in the pissing rain with DD screaming her head off in the pushchair because she's tired because she won't nap, with DS dragging alongside whining, and me literally grinding my teeth because I am so angry that I want to throw her under the next passing car.

I don't understand why she is so angry. I don't understand why she fights everything. She dictates our lives and everyone tiptoes round her lest they upset her. It's not fair on DS because she gets everything she wants just for the sake of having her not scream.

My mum used to look after DD 1 day a week but now doesn't, and won't.

I am fed up of having no friends and no social life and feeling stressed all the time. I don't even like being with 'mummy friends' anymore because their kids all behave better and I just end up even more stressed trying to placate my two clearly unhappy kids.

I blame DD. I do love her, and when she's on form she is utterly amazing. But she also seems to save her worst behaviour just for me. And that behaviour has destroyed me, the person I was, the person I would like to be.

Sorry for the rant. I can't tell anyone any of this, and DH doesn't accept what I feel; he says I demonise DD and she's 'not that bad'. I don't think she is bad, but she is so angry and she has been since the day she was born, and nothing I do makes any difference.

I don't feel like this all the time, but I resent how we are all so dependent on her moods for our own - god knows it's hard being cheerful when a child is screaming, hitting and fighting for hours at a time. Poor DS just doesn't get a look in when she has one of her tantrums; on goes the TV, while I walk around trying to distract her.

So it's not 24/7 like it used to be, but on days like today I just look at my life and wish, really wish, I had never become a mother. I make my kids unhappy - so really, what's the point?

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Ice9116 · 07/06/2012 16:30

Wow - I really feel for you. You sound heartily exhausted with it all.

Is there anyway your DH can look after DD for a few hours and you and DS do something together like swimming or artstuff?

Where in the country are you?

Corgito · 07/06/2012 16:34

Have you ever taken DD to a doctor? Could there be a medical reason why she's so irritable?

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:35

Thanks for reading my post - ridiculously long but I just wanted to get it off my chest. It just all comes to a head sometimes. It's probably not as bad as I make out.

But yes, DH could. Unfortunately I'm also running a start-up business so at the moment when he does have them I am working, and I also work most evenings to make up for the fact that I only work office hours PT. It will ease off within the next few months.

It's stupid, I look forward to my time with my kids but when it comes down to it...I am on tenderhooks, waiting for DD to kick off. So can't even enjoy it when she is on good form.

OP posts:

Interested in this thread?

Then you might like threads about these subjects:

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:36

Corgito - I have, to GP and HV. Nowt wrong with her. Very bright, much more so than DS (and he is also bright), so much of it seems to stem from frustration and trying (and failing) to do things. Weirdly, she still can't talk - DS could do full conversation by about 13 months - so that doesn't help.

OP posts:
scarlettsmummy2 · 07/06/2012 16:38

Have you spoken to the doctor about your own mental health? Could it be that you have post natal depession?

iloveACK · 07/06/2012 16:41

I really feel for you as it sounds very trying. I would second taking her to the doctor just to check there isn't a medical reason for her anger (some sort of pain or something - I'm not medical so have no idea but surely it's worth a try).
I would also try to get some time for yourself as the pressure of starting your own business will not be helping with stress levels.
Good luck.

iloveACK · 07/06/2012 16:41

Sorry, cross post!

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:42

No, I haven't. I don't think I am depressed, just at the end of my rope.

OP posts:
WinkyWinkola · 07/06/2012 16:43

Wow. You are having a really hard time.

I know how you feel, tiptoeing around, trying to avoid huge tantrums because it just wears you down.

Plus you're isolated because you're the mother of one of those children. I know how it feels because I too am the mother of one of those children. Eyes used to roll when ds1 and I arrived at toddler groups.

So, it's really really crap just now. It won't get any worse. I know this is poor comfort and on rainy horrible days, it's so depressing and upsetting.

I used to take my ds to structured classes like Monkey Music, Dinky Dancers and mini gym. He seemed to respond better to that kind of environment. Would your dd?

If she's going to a childminder, is there any way she could go for one extra session so you could have time alone with your ds again to recapture some of your happier parenting times?

I really feel for you. You sound utterly miserable and it's so hard.

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:43

Thanks iloveACK.

OP posts:
amillionyears · 07/06/2012 16:46

I really feel for you.That was upsetting to read.Poor you and your family.
Agree with taking her to the doctor.Just in case there is something that can be done.If you took her when she was younger,and nothing came of it,it might be easier to diagnose something now that she is oldert,then when she was a lot younger.
How does she get on at nursery if she goes there?
How is she with your DH when you are not around?
Have you thought about watching the childminder and your DD together,when you are supposedly not around [you might want to tell the childminder what you are doing!],to see how your DD acts then,or what the childminder does to give you any hints of why your DD reacts differently to her.
Sounds like your DD controls you,but doesnt control the chilminder to such an extent.

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:46

And thanks Winky - nice to know I'm not alone! How do you combat the feeling that it's all your fault?

Structured play is a good idea - she does like stimulation and activity, She is actually very, very sociable, likes new places and classes.

Actually, thinking about it not getting any worse is a comfort!!

OP posts:
Mollydoggerson · 07/06/2012 16:46

She might improve once she starts talking.

Things will get better. I believe that she is that bad.

I hate when mothers are not allowed to express themselves, of course it is an utter nightmare to listen to screaming all the time. You are human and you are allowed to feel as you feel.

All I can say is it will get better, try to spend one on one time with each of them, you will have a better relationship for it.

WinkyWinkola · 07/06/2012 16:46

Ps Ds1 is now 7. His rages continued on and on. He has improved now that he is seeing a counsellor every week but it's a long hard slog. Also very bright and very well behaved at school - that bit really sticks in my craw.

You could try alternatives like cranial osteopathy etc. I'm a sceptic but I guess you've nothing to lose?

amillionyears · 07/06/2012 16:46

Cross posted.

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:48

She is really happy with DH and our CM. Our CM has a much more rigid structure to the day and did cc to get her to nap. She takes no nonsense; I find that approach hard because of trying to balance DS's needs, and also DD seems to fight me much more than anyone else. As in, I can spend 3 hours trying to get her to nap (I timed it once, just to see how long she would carry on fighting; I gave up at the 3 hr point!).

I also went through a month of trying a really rigid structure when she was tiny to see if it made a difference and it was the most horrendous time for me, DS and DD. So I gave up.

OP posts:
puds11 · 07/06/2012 16:49

You could have time specifically dedicated to DS. This may help, as one of the reasons he might be playing up maybe because of the change in the amount of attention you have been able to give him since DD was born.
I would also try to remain firm with DD and not let her rule the roost, as her behaviour will only escalate. Have you tried atking her swimming? That is a challenging activity for her, and will also tire her out. My DD always used to nap after swimming.
Sorry your having such a hard time.

amillionyears · 07/06/2012 16:49

Sounds to me like she is very very bright.
And not talking yet is going to add to her frustration.
I think there is a gifted and talented section on here that you may want to have a look at.
Agree with trying to spend time alone with DS

KateSpade · 07/06/2012 16:50

I feel exactly the same!
Posting to mark my place & read the answers later

birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:52

Yes, amillionyears, that's just it: I feel like she controls me/us, but not our CM. And yes, Winky, like you, that really sticks in my craw too! She is generally a sweetheart for our CM now (has the odd off-day), so while I am happy she's happy when we're not together, I am also monumentally pissed off that she rarely behaves like that with me.

Molly, thank you - it's like I am the crappest person on the planet for saying, actually, sometimes I don't like my DD very much. Like we all have to pretend it's all hearts and roses 24/7. So I bottle it up - hence my mammoth post.

OP posts:
birdsnotbees · 07/06/2012 16:54

OK, so:

  • she will get better, slowly
  • she may ease up once she can talk (I wish she'd hurry up - it;s not like it's not all going on in her head; she understands everything)
  • I should spend more time alone with DS
  • I should find someone other than DH to talk to, perhaps even see GP about depression
  • I could try more structured play and classes
  • I am not the shittest mother that ever walked the face of the earth...
OP posts:
Bigmerlin · 07/06/2012 16:56

Your post reminds me of me, a few years back. It will get better. My situation was a bit different, as it was my eldest who changed into a monster while the baby was really easy. I still mourn the relationship I used to have with dd, pre ds arriving. If she likes classes, and you think some of the frustration arises from not talking, then I highly recommend Sing and Sign. By 12 months both of my children could tell me all sorts of things by signing.

Maryz · 07/06/2012 16:59

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

WinkyWinkola · 07/06/2012 17:01

She also knows you love her and can play you a lot. And by behaving well for your dh and cm, well, it's a form of controlling. Bright girl.

Do you spend any time alone with her too?

winnybella · 07/06/2012 17:02

It's totally understandable that you often feel like this about your DD-please don't feel guilty. But I think that she misbehaves with you because she knows that you'll eventually relent and allow her whatever she wants. There is no other explanation, if she behaves relatively well with your DH and CM.

My own DD was/is rather, ahem, 'challenging' and very, very stubborn. I found that she needed to see that I can be consistently firm. If I gave in once, she would milk it for all it's worth and it would affect her behaviour for a while afterwards. So now I rule with an iron fist (and lots of love, too, of course). The improvement is amazing.

Re: nap situation- you tried once, she won. I guarantee that if you put her down at the same time every day for a week and not come back at all she will finally get it and will nap for you. She just sounds like a very strong-willed little girl; if it's not harnessed it will be more nightmare for you all.