Bedtimes...11 years and 8years

[vikingmaid]

After another battle of wills and ignoring the 'Fred' can stay up until 4 in the morning! I wonder what is reasonable. Schoolo night they both go at 8pm and the 11 year old can read until 9pm. But Friday and Saturday are more difficult. So far the 8 year old must go at 9pm, but 11 year old wants 10pm. how do you deal with this?

12 yr old, goes up at 9 'ish during week and probably 11'ish weekends. Does not have to get up till 8 tho during wk.