Back in the Zoo for new adventures with old friends

[CaptainNemo]

Come on over animals, I think we'll be very comfy here

Marbles can't add much to Murrays post about the bfp/af sorry to hear about your job but I don't blame you for not taking up the offer I'm sure dh will come round eventually
Murray glad you enjoyed the acupuncture although not the herbs so much
Apologies for lack of personals but I'm away on a course so on app and relying on my awful memory!
Ttc is back on track think I've got over my worries but like Impala really struggling with E's behaviour had a terrible week of it last wk but have to say Monday we had a whole day of no time out and he was a joy now if we could have a few more like that it would be brilliant doesn't help that I have get constant digs from my mum and nan because I refuse to hit him and that's their parenting style. I've tried ignoring them but when your not v confident it really knocks you for six

Hello ladies,
Murray Glad AF has been and gone and you can get down to some serious TTC-ing Pleased you found the acupuncture relaxing although the herbal concoction sounds foul! My acupuncturist didn't do all the herbal stuff so I escaped that. I'm sure the pain will be worth it though!
I had to smile about the red pee, E has asked me so many times "what are you doing mummy?", "what's that?" etc. It's a nightmare when you don't get any privacy in the loo! I've given very basic answers to her questions so far. I was having a discussion with a friend the other day who has a 15 year-old DD who started AF at the age of 9 and she was saying she's always been perfectly honest about AF with both her DD and her 9 year-old DS from a very young age, explained why it happens etc. Marbles have you had any similar questions from S? And how did you handle it? It sounds as though you've made the right decision about the job by the way, something better will come along I'm sure. Thanks for your Linked-In invitation by the way And sorry to hear about the BFP which turned straight into AF I keep forgetting, when are you due to see your consultant again?
Buddha Hope you're enjoying your time away, even if it is for a course! I feel your pain with the behaviour issues. It just colours everything doesn't it? And it's even harder if family members are sticking their oar in. E has been better the past couple of weeks, it does seem to come and go in phases. However, after reading various threads on here I borrowed this book from the library: www.amazon.co.uk/1-2-3-Magic-Effective-Discipline-Parenting/dp/1889140430/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1331114963&sr=1-1 and so far it's worked really well. It's really easy to apply the concepts and you can start immediately. E has been sent to her bedroom just twice in the past week and missed a go at trampolining yesterday and that's been it. Completely different to two weeks ago! I've had great success with setting a kitchen timer/mobile phone alarm to get her to do something within a certain time and she loves the challenge of trying to beat the clock! Can't believe I didn't think of that before. I've also got this one too: www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/1853407054/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE which I've started to read and it also seems to make a lot of sense. Perhaps you could get your mum and nan to read them too and they'll realise that things have moved on since their day and hopefully they will then support your choices. It's so hard though, especially being consistent all the time.
Hope everyone else is OK! Haven't heard from PickledMoomin in a while, saw on FB that she's not very well
Frazzle Hope the drastic diet worked and that you're back to normal now!

Hi ladies
S has asked the same questions impala and I told her its the comfy bed in mummy's womb that's made for a new baby to sleep in and it's natures way of changing the sheets ready for the baby. It doesn't hurt etc and it won't get changed if a baby decides to grow in there she likes that explanation and it's a roundabout way of preparing her and she doesn't worry now as she tried to put a plaster on my belly the first time she saw she has said its ""ascustin" and never comin outa my penny" (disgusting and she won't be having periods) she potentially could only have 3/4 years left without them good news E is behaving a bit better now! It does happen in phases and S is being really good recently! The HT announced in assembly that he will visit the children who are consistently late in class and I think she was a bit shaken by that and has vastly improved in the mornings

Hope everyone else is ok

I heard from moomin the other day and she's ok but still not able to use her laptop so hard to post

buddha hope you are ok the behaviour issues aside obv it is so frustrating it it definitely a case of cracking what works and that can be quite a process. Like I said it WILL get better and you are most certainly NOT doing anything wrong. Be firm and stand your ground (united front with DH. Helps a lot too) dont listen to the smacking brigade ( my mums exactly the same) and parent your boy how YOU think is best. We are here to listen too and if you have any wobbles I'm at the end of the phone anytime {{{big hugs}}}

Impala spookily I bought the how to talk book last week haven't had chance to read it (should have packed it ) it's good to know that someone else recommends it.
Marbles Thank you I did mention to mum about reading a thread on here a few weeks ago about smacking but had second thoughts when it became quite heated and talked about people that snack are crap parents etc thought it was a bit harsh!

Marbles meant to say I love that explanation you gave S about af etc

Marbles That's a great way of explaining it, I'll definitely use that next time the question crops up, thank you
Buddha Agree with Marbles and I should have said in my last post that you're definitely not doing anything wrong, you're doing a great job with E. We all get so many conflicting messages about parenting these days that it's hard to know which way to turn and who to listen to. We'll have to compare notes on the book once we've both read it!

Ladies - evening ! I have been straight on to order the effective discipline book . E is generally well behaved but seem to pick his moments to play up (in front of my 'perfect mummy' friends !) so def keen to find some useful tips.

Buddha where are you in your cycle ? I am starting to SWI from the weekend - exciting ! Must try to remember that just because I am ovulating does NOT mean I will get PG first time - must remember patience !

impala glad to hear E is behaving a bit better. How did you feel when you had acupuncture ? I am soo tired - I feel my eyes starting to close at 9pm every night and even at work today I was so so sleepy ! It is a strangely nice feeling though and I have been sleeping brilliantly and having loads of dreams (Dr did ask if I had dreams so I wonder if that is significant). It may be the herbs that make me sleepy but either way I am convinced it is doing me good

Nemo where are you my dear ? Hopefully not too busy working mrs xx

Sorry to hear Moomin is unwell, hope it is nothing serious.

Murray Moomin has a water infection but started antib's today so hopefully will be better soon. We're cycle buddies! I should ov at the weekend too If I don't get pg this month then this will be the longest time it has taken since the initial wait of two years pre the m/cs no pressure there then

How come when it's my turn (once in a blue moon) for a lie in I can't sleep

Oh no poor you Buddha how irritating !

I had a wee long lie this morning after a boozy night/afternoon out which was great fun . Had a bit of a this morning when temp was VERY high and panicked that yesterday's acupuncture session had caused a very early Ov (cd 11 !) but am now convinced it was the gin that caused the rise. I know that alcohol can cause a high temp but I have never seen such a sky high temp caused just by alcohol - but then I did have a LOT so hopefully that is all it was as this morning was the first SWI so if rise is ov then we missed the boat - fingers crossed for a low temp tmrw.

Buddha how did your ov weekend go - do you think you timed it well ?

Where is everyone ?

murray sounds like you had a good night out I think we have timed it alright and can obsess relax and wait

Hi buddha sounds good that you timed things right DH and I have been trying but failing this cycle DH is working long hours and is shattered and I seem to have another illness ATM chest pain on the right side and very dragging tiredness...off the docs later...again.

Hope everyone else is ok

Marbles Hope your feeling better? I've been poorly again too getting do fed up of being I'll

Well I'm here to do a Nemo style rant about mothers day. Dh asked me weeks ago if there was anything I particularly wanted as he's crap with present buying I bookmarked a couple of things on laptop so he could pick something (don't expect gold or diamonds just a small gift as a token) but he didn't bother and took a chicken poxed tantruming E to town against my advice and returned rather quickly as E played up stating I couldn't get anything so I'll order something online. Ive now deleted my bookmarks as I don't want anything after the day (petty I know) dh works at weekends on a pub door so I knew I wouldn't get a lie in usually gets in about 1.30/2am but rolled in drunk at 4am he's never gone out after work and I wouldn't have minded if he'd let me know and picked a different day! I've got mil coming round this morning the way things are going I'll have to entertain her on my own as he'll be hungover! Maybe he'll surprise me and take me out for lunch so girls AIBU to moan?

Happy mothers day to you all

Forgot that with my rant

Happy Mother's Day ladies !

Buddha you are definitely not being unreasonable to complain about DH's behaviour - remember this when it is Father's Day . Just as well you ov'd last weekend and not this weekend . So.... any symptoms to report other than feeling ill again ? Not long until you POAS.... exciting !

I will not be joining you as egg has still not arrived - not a complete shock for me as tend to have longer than 28 cycles. DP was away last week so a blessing that ov delayed. BD'd last night as had EWCM during the day but it then disappeared and today's temp above coverline - probably due to drinks last night as opposed to ov though... More EWCM (blood streaked !!) today so suspect I have a few more days to go. Am just praying that I do not have a repeat of last month's on/off messing with my head ov symptoms then weeks and weeks for egg to arrive... fingers crossed.

Where is everyone else hiding ? Nemo, bump update please !

Mother's Day rather more successful here, DS made me a lovely card at nursery (so much more appreciated and treasured than a shop bought one) and he also bought me some Jo Malone hand cream - clever boy and DP cooked dinner for me - feeling very lucky - all I need now is an egg and then a BFP - not much to ask surely...

Hello lovely ladies,

I'm sorry I haven't been around much. I'm stalking you all but I haven't had the time to post- currently using phone (again) so it's impossible to remember what's been said since I last posted.

I'm well, work is busy. I'm looking forward to three weeks off for Easter.

Life at home is comfortable. Still living in the same house as D. We're doing alternate weekends with the kids but everything is amicable though he's annoyed me recently (broke my mother's day pressie that L made, gave her permanent marker which went through her paper and on to the table.... I bet you're bored already!).

I went to London last weekend. It was lovely to catch up with friends. I miss the kids like crazy when they are with D but I call constantly and look forward to spending the following weekend with them.

L is a delight at the moment. I occasionally see a teenager in her but she's generally very settled, happy and funny. She's doing really well in school, and I spend most of my time driving her to out of school activities.

J is a monkey. Terrible twos- doesn't eat, still doesn't sleep, is very strong willed. He makes me laugh constantly. His obsession with poo, boogies and willies are new to me. L was never interested. He enjoys nothing better than calling someone a bird poo or a boogie beard. And he's so physical. I feel like I spend all day chasing him. I'm adjusting slowly.

Please keep posting. It's great to hear from you

Hello ladies so sorry I've been away for so long, am rubbish.

Buddha am amused/slightly concerned by the idea of a "Nemo style rant" - although not to disappoint you, I could do a few more rants since I last posted... Not least about the fact that for mothers day I got..... nada. Nothing. Zilch. Not a card, noy anything. Which, coming after the valentines day debacle wasn't quite what I was hoping for..... Murray am LOVING the jo malone hand cream present, that's much more what I had in mind! Did I mention before that DH works next door to a card shop and 2 doors from a florist?!?! He didn't manage to write the card (I made him buy) for his mum either, so I supppose at least I'm not the only one he doesn't appreciate?! But Buddha I'm sorry you had such aou on crap day. Why are they so rubbish?!?! It's not fecking complicated after all!!!! Hope you're doing ok now though.

Murray what CD are you on now? Glad the SWI is going well Am keeping everything crossed for you!

Marbles I hope you're feeling better now? You really have had too much to cope with lately

Ok, so you'd be disappointed if there was no rant, right? Had a consultant's appt this aft, have been seeing him either 4 weekly or fortnightly cos cervix got a bit shorter a while ago and they're keeping a close eye on it in case I need a stitch (looking v unlikely). But as I suspected, the baby is ginormous. So they want me to go for a glucose tolerance test on monday (appt not til 10 - may starve to death by 1pm...) in case it's gestational diabetes...

Am feeeling v grumpy about it. I hate being pg (and I suck at it), am extremely worried about giving birth to a whopping baby, being split from ear to ear again, and in all liklihood having no f-ing pain relief as it'll all happen too quickly. Actually think I might be a bit traumatised from last time, am just really scared of things going wrong and of the level of pain that I experienced last time.....

Rant rant rant. Sorry. I know I'm worrying about something that might never happen (GD not having to give birth!) and I know it's better to know if he has got it, so we (I) can do everything we (I) can to make sure he's healthy, but it's really unsettled me.....Gah. Why are things never straightforward huh? Sorry for the moan (That Nemo, she's only on here when she wants something/something goes wrong... )

X posts Moomin - it's like buses hey? Glad things are as ok as they can be in the circumstances. xx

Hello lovely ladies, so good to see some action on this thread - was concerned I'd killed it with my 'missing egg' chat

Firstly... Buddha how are you mrs ? must be time to test if no AF by now... Please pop on and let us know, have everything crossed for you, been thinking of you these past few days xxx

Moomin great to hear from you, glad to hear all going as well as can be expected given your less than ideal situation with DH. How was London, did you see your ex while you were there ?... DS sounds like a typical little boy, bursting with energy and cheek ! So much fun but so exhausting.

Nemo thank you for updating us - I was going to text you for a bump update as it has been aaages ! How many weeks are you now, surely into the 3rd trimester ? Not so good about the large baby and potential GD - like you say it hasn't been confirmed as yet and I don't know much about it TBH (other than it means big baby and I guess you'd have to alter diet ?...) but I'm certain it is better that you know about it and have it treated/monitored. Why can't being PG just be straightforward for you ? Also, I hope you gave DH a stern talking to after neglecting you Mother's Day - unforgivable when you are carrying his son and having a tough PG into the bargain. HUGS xx

Well my egg is still being stubborn - grrrrr...! I have had plentiful EWCM these past few days, gradually increasing as it should, then a temp dip yesterday so was 99% sure that this morning was my thermal shift day but no - FFS ! I was so convinced that I took temp twice then decided thermometer was pants so tried my backup thermometer !!!! Anyway, am now praying for tomorrow and not yet another false alarm where EWCM dries up and body starts trying all over again for the next 4-5 days. Am now on cd24 BORED OF WAITING ! On the plus side it means I can polish off the yummy wine I cracked open last night - every cloud.. Acupuncture going well - had an appt this morning which was fine apart from finding out that I should be drinking the 'raw herb tea' warm not cold - Dr told me that explains why I am not improving as much as he'd hoped - arrrghhh ! The only way I can stomach the God awful stuff is to down it cold with my breath held then immediately down fresh orange juice afterwards. My colleague who was due the week before me started Maternity leave last week which was tough but am hoping that not seeing her bump every day will make life easier at work. The other PG girl at work is due to go off when I'm on holiday - phew ! Only 3 weeks now until I jet off to sunny Lanzarote - BRING IT ON !

Hello to all the other lovely ladies - what is your news ?...

Oh Murray Lanzarote! Hopefully should do you the world of good though, and you certainly deserve it! Seeing the girl waved off by everyone and presumably given presents must have been HORRIBLE but as you say, at least you don't have to see her from now on. And fingers crossed, by the time she comes back you'll be on mat leave yourself! I remember the raw herb tea < boak> I used to drink mine luke warm, just cool enough that I could down it in one whilst holding my nose, exactly as you describe! Filthy stuff. But if it works def worth it! Good luck. You're right about the GD of course, def better to know if I do have it. Am fretting. It seems I have quite a complicated relationship with food while I'm preggers, though luckily not really the rest of the time, and I'm really not sure how I'll cope with no sugar and ding hungry all the time, though I'm aware of how pathetic that sounds and that there are far worse things....
I tried talking to DH last night about how I was feeling about everything. He pretty much rolled over and went to sleep without reacting at all which meant I couldn't sleep then was up again ALOT in the night then with DD at (old) 6.30 so shattered today... That'll make for a nice rational conversation about it all later then....
Am writing this on my new toy. Have been thinking about getting an iPad for ages, since my accountant told me I can have it as 100% business expense and I really could do with one for work, so I took the plunge on Friday and got one. Figured I may as well get it before the end of the tax year. It's wifi only but have tethered it to my iPhone (£10 per month on Vodafone sure it can be done more cheaply somehow...) so I can use it out and about as well - like now, in the car on the m25 on the way back from Ipswich visiting the godchildren.
And at least it means I can mn without having to use the god awful app . Will be good to have it at the hospital tomorrow as well, will need to pass the time somehow.....

Buddha - what she said update please! Hope you're feeling ok about things whatever the news, and that DH has made up for his appalling behaviour last weekend.... As I said, no apology here....

How is everyone else? Quite a few animals have been AWOL for a while, maybe we should go and give them a nudge on fb to get them to come and see us

Right. DD asleep so will maybe take the opportunity to try to talk to DH again. Not optimistic.... xx

Quickie as I'm watching dancing on ice final
Af one day late but two poas later still -ve so just waiting for af to arrive feel ok (ish) about it bit as I put a lot of effort in this month I'm beginning to think maybe my eggs are no longer fresh

Murray Good news that pg lady has now finished work but boo for missing egg. Any news on that? Your herb tea sounds awful tbh but if it does the trick drink up
Nemo No apology here either needless to say there will be no Fathers day in our house A Nemo style rant is not a bad thing honest. Bugger can't remember what else I was going to say and can't see on app

Will be back tomorrow for proper post promise

Buddha ooh that is good that AF is late, maybe just tested too soon, you testing again tomorrow assuming no AF ?... Everything crossed for good news mrs xx

Sorry ladies, I've been really rubbish at posting of late, been very busy and not had much time for anything.
Sorry some of you had such rubbish Mother's Days, I think Buddha's suggestion of no Father's Day is great DH and I were away at a wedding without E that weekend but we did get back early afternoon and enjoyed a late lunch at my mum's with E I was given this book and a huge box of chocolates. E also made me a lovely card and a pasta necklace at nursery, which I will treasure. I remember as a teenager asking my mum why on earth she'd kept all the rubbish delightful things my sister and I had made at playgroup and primary school (which she still has incidentally!). Now I do understand!
Gomurray Really hope your body stops playing tricks on you, so frustrating The herbal concoction sounds foul, hope you manage to find a way to drink it warm and keep it down. Very of your trip to Lanzarote btw, it will be lovely. And good news that you won't have to keep dealing with your two pg colleagues when you get back.
Buddha Keeping my fingers crossed for you!
Nemo Sorry to hear about possible GD, how did things go today? Did you get the results or do you have to wait for them? Sorry to hear you're having such a rough time with being pg. On the home straight now though - when is your due date exactly? Did you ever speak to anyone about your fears about tearing again and the possibility of a C-section? I think if you feel that is the best option for you this time around then you should definitely try pushing for one. Didn't the government announce recently that all women who wanted a C-section should have one or something or have I got that totally wrong? Obviously it's not a decision to be taken lightly but if you know it's at least an option for you if that's what you want then you might be able to relax a little.
On a brighter note, I love your accountant's reasoning about the iPad, might have to consider getting one before April 5th Although given that we're about to have an extension built (if the bank actually agrees to give us a mortgage [anger]) then perhaps it's not a necessity at the moment
Moomin Lovely to hear from you and pleased things are as OK as they can be with DH at the moment. Love the pictures of your trip to London on FB, looks as though you had a lovely time
All OK here, apart from I've had this virus which has been going around. Starts off like flu with a temp and aches and pains but not quite as bad. However, it makes you feel rubbish for well over a week and ends up as a stinking cold, which I've still got Nice! E had an ear infection a couple of weeks ago but fortunately is better now. We're going to visit friends in Brussels this w/e - this is the trip we had to cancel last month because E was ill so really hoping nothing goes wrong this time!
Hope everyone else is OK.

Morning how is everyone today? I have a cold..... Boo! But at least it's sunny. Thanks for the good wishes for yesterday, it was fine, though I'd heard from other people that the sugary drink makes you feel quite sick, and they weren't kidding. But noting as bad as ms so a doddle really! Haven't been told how long it'll take to get the results but my gp friend reckons the surgery should have either got them yesterday aft or should get them later today so I'll hassle call them about it later and I'll keep you posted. My latest paranoia is that I'm not feeling as much movement as I have been, but I think (hope) that it's just because he had an exceptionally active weekend and now he's just gone back to normal levels which therefore feels less.....

Impala Brussels trip sounds great! Will keep my fingers crossed that it all goes smoothly for you this time round. How long are you going for? We've been away the last couple of weekends and tbh I'm really looking forward to a quiet one this weekend, especially if this weather holds [crosses fingers...]

Moomin I saw something on fb about London but I haven't looked at the pics yet, will have to go and have a nose!

Murray any sign of that missing egg yet? I know it won't be what you want to hear, but it might take your body a couple of cycles to settle down. With temping hopefully you'll know as soon as it's ready and I'm sure you'll catch the egg as soon as it's there to catch. At least you know that with the acupuncture and the foul herbs your body will be in the best possible position to carry a pg when it does happen.

Buddha sorry about the -ve's, that sucks.... If you're worried about egg quality is it worth talking to the gp about whether there are any blood tests you can have or would you be happier not medicalising things too much? I'm certainly guilty of that, just ends up giving me more things to worry about... Come and let us know how you're doing, I've been thinking of you. And remember, you had E when you weren't sure that it would ever happen, so there's no reason why it shouldn't happen again. Hope that doesn't sound blasé, hopefully you know what I mean.

Right then. Better get moving. Am looking forward to seeing lots of posts on here next time I come in. I'll bring cake if that'll help?!?

hi everyone!!

glad to see people around recently

DH and I took DD to the lakes for the night and to south lakes wild animal park on friday/saturday we had a lovely weekend (and DH and i managed to BD too overcoming adversity from the B&Bs supremely squeaky bed and DD talking in her sleep)

anywho...

how has everyone been? my brain is mushy today so i cant remember anything and im in work too so can sneak a bit inbetween working...last tuesday EVER in this shitty job so onwards and upwards from here...