August Babies

[Katherine]

Wills, Marina, Musica etc I miss us all chatting together. Time to pass on the mum2be moving on thread - so shall we start up again, and anyone else of course.

Still in cloud9 after last night. Poor DH had to spend the morning getting the holiday cottage ready and then I had to go and help him!!!!! But its OK because I feel great. Not even a little bit sore down there. Just these dratted afterpains to contend with - always think this bit is so unfair! You go through all that and get the reward of a lovely baby but the afterpains don't really give you anything do they. Oh well mustn't complain. MW said I'm back to a third already so thats why it hurts so much.

Wills how are those stitches doing? Hope you are not too uncomfy.

Well just changed 3 merconium nappies so no problems with Bea's bowels at all! And the cloth nappies are doing great - just ordered some more girly ones. Even my cloth sanpro is bearing up - much admired by the MWs.

Oh well better go and get the tea ready. Packed DH off to the park with the kids for half and hour for some peace and quiet so just been wallowing in a lovely bath. Time to return to domesticity now

Katherine - have you tried putting vaseline over the cream you are putting on to clear the sore bottom? It provides a barrier to keep the cream on and the urine off.

I agree now that NHS direct always seems to end up in casulaty - I was just hoping they'd tell me it was probably nothing. The nurse did seem sceptical as DD2 had no other symptoms but said the pain before urinating DID sound like a UTI so needed checking out. I was just fed up that the Dr seemed so daft. I don't think it is a UTI as she is fine during the day but she got all upset again last night. Maybe its just one of those evening things. Her bum is still really sore though. Can't decide if its thrush back again although her tongue seems fairly clear but might try th nystatin again. Mears good idea about the barrier over the cream. I've got some lovely balm which I can try. Seh stops crying when she wees though so I don't think it can be stinging thats the problem.

KMS - I love my cloth nappies and felt so angry that the Dr seemed to suggest that was the problem. I know plenty of babies in cloth who are fine so there is no connection. I use wacky wraps and wee monstanz over the top of kooshies (never got on with them before but having a decent wrap makes all the difference) and terries with fleece liners. Wonder if I should try silk liners see if it helps her bum?

DD2 has her first jab next week. Dreading it as DD1 screamed all evening after her first and they ended up giving her the others one at a time. DS was fine though so hope DD2 will be the same. Don't want to go through that again. KMS I sympathise. Its just horrible thing to do isn't it.

Marina glad your little one has started beaming. Apart from the obvious releif its just such a lovely feeling isn't it.

HV has just been round and was horrified at DR and is getting me a kit to do a urine test first thing tomorrow morning. She said we should rule UTI out anyway but also it could be a touch of colic as the bladder is very close to the intestine so when it gets full might make it colicy. At least I'll know now though. Just got to catch that wee now!

Ds2 now weighs 12lb 8oz! He's put on 1lb 12oz in just over 2 weeks, which we weren't particularly surprised at, as he seems to eat loads!

He only woke for a feed once last night, although I did go in and put his dummy in a couple of times, so dare I hope the nighttime feeds are coming nearer to a close?
His spots STILL haven't cleared up, although there is a marked improvement on a couple of weeks ago.

There doesn't seem to be many of us on this thread, Eva who had her baby on the same day as me has stopped posting, and what about Myersthecat? Time is short these days for us all I suppose.
Feeling like I'm getting my energy back at last, and also quite a bit happier in general, it was really difficult being on my own with 18 mth old ds1 and ds2 in the first 5 weeks or so, but I seem to be coping better now and getting used to having two to run round after.

Hope everyone is ok.
As mentioned, have changed my nickname from neen99 to my favourite girls name! Sorry to confuse you all!

11.15 to 6.30 !! (one for each hour of unbroken sleep!)

Katherine- 7 hrs well done. were you desparate to feed when DD woke up? have you caught that wee yet?

Fantastic Katherine! Well done her and you!

Boobs were like watermelons! Duvet very soggy
DD2 has been ravenous all day.

Took me 2 hours to catch her wee! Got one really quickly but before I could put her down she exploded and it all went in the container (and all over DH jacket, the floor, my shoes, the table.....). Fed her again and had another go. This time she kicked my hand and I dropped it on the floor. Followed by another explosion (a different part of the floor). 2 hours later I finally managed it but took me so long to clean up DD1 was late for nursery. Oh well at least its done. Hopefully it will be negative anyway as she seems a lot happier now.

Bum really really bad again though. I think the thrush is definitly back

Elena - don't worry about the spots. DD2 looked terrible but in the end they vanished over night and she's got goreous skin now. was going to say smooth as a babies bum but given the state of her bum at the moment....

Hi everyone.

Good name elena2!

Katherine - re: thrush. Everyone round me is in agreement that treatment should continue for 7 days more once you have NO SYMPTONS. Personally, having gone through what I'm going through - I'll go for 14 just to be safe!

Blast dd2 has woken - hopefully will get back on later.

Take care all - am reading but finding it difficult to keep up and eventually post.

Wills Thrush is a nightmare isn't it. When I started the nystatin it disappeared overnight but I continued with it for a week. We then had a week being clear and now its back again.

Not sure whether to go back to the dr or try the nystatin again. Need a new syringe though so have to do that this morning (been using the old one for my essential oils as I thought we'd done with it) .

Urine sample was clear thank goodness and she'd much happier now anyway.

Another full nights sleep. Sorry to brag but

Well poor ds has been ill today - throwing up. Although he didn't seem particularly ill in himself - just very demanding and clingy. Needed lots of stories reading. And I think we reached a new level of CBeebies watching - I think we managed 6 hours today! (I'm a sucker when he's ill - he just curls up on the sofa and I haven't the heart to do anything else with him). He doesn't normally watch anything like that much (she adds defensively!). Dd has been a star all day, and amused herself. Hope you're all ok. x

Musica- hope DS feels better soon! We had a note from ds1 school about a vomiting virus going through the school. lastes about 24-48 hrs so hope it is over quickly.

Is there anybody there?
Or has everyone gone away for half term?

How is the thrush Katherine?

Ds2 is nearly rid of the spots at last!
He is still waking once or twice for a feed at nights though, re the clocks going back, it'll feel like torture getting up at 2 and 5 instead of 3 and 6 for a few nights!

We're off to Scotland for a few days next week, we were hoping he would be going through by then! Oh well, still can't wait, it'll be lovely (if cold!) to get away.

Hello, is there anybody there?!

Oh well, it's quite therapeutic talking to yourself, and I like to look back at my earlier postings to see how far we've come!

Had the best night ever last night - Ds2 had his immunisations yesterday, and the nurse said he might be a bit sleepy. We put him to bed at 7, woke him at 10 for a top-up before we went to bed, and he went through without a peep till 6.10 this morning! Although we've got him down to one night feed now, he's been waking every hour or two and not settling till we go and put his dummy in, so about 7 hours solid sleep is fantastic for us!

Not holding out much hope for a repeat performance tonight though...

Bliss!

Hi elena2. I'm here, just about! Like you I still have two during the night although every now and then it drops to a tantalising one only. I've been thinking about starting to "push" her into a routine but am unsure if its still a little early - she's 10 and half weeks.

Thought that I'd finally really got on top of the thrush only to have it come back with avengence i.e. am back onto painkillers. I spoke to my GP yesterday who finally relented and has put me onto the modern drug Fluconazol. I think she finally gave in when she asked me "when did you stop taking Nystatin" - I hadn't stopped yet the thrush had come back.

I've just returned from the doctors where I had my fears confirmed. Am feeling a little tearful but it appears that dd2 has my allergies and asthma. I suspected it because otherwise she's had a cold from approx 2 weeks, however the gp confirmed my impression that there is a wheeze and that the sneezing and snuffly nose is unfortunately general allergies and asthma. The wheezing might not develop into full blown asthma but given my problems I'm a little bit dispondent. We discussed milk and she stressed that for dd's general health it is now vital that I continue breast feeding - this to a woman who wants to cry whenever she goes out into the cold (nipples contracting etc etc ouch ouch ouch). If I do give up she's agreed that dd2 needs to avoid both the cow based formulas and now the soya ones as well - there's a new one out that is specifically for high risk allergy babies and at least she's agreed that she's happy to prescribe it to me (currently its prescription only).

All of this ontop of my problems with my mother (on another thread) has got me a little down - so need a pick me up. Think I will concentrate tonight on finding a means of earning money from home so that I can stay near my girls.

I also miss being on mumsnet but dd1 demands my attention during the day and dd2 seems to want to do marathon feeds in the evening. Short of getting on at night ..... Hope you're all well

Hi all. Elena congratulationson the sleep. DD2 has slept through the night twice now and I got really excited but then she got a cold and it all went downhill. REally hope this is it for you though - you never know

Wills I am sorry you are feeling low. I'm surprised at the Drs conclusions though - what did she base her diagnosis on. I'm just surprised as when DS was wheezy and I went to the Drs he said they never diagnose asthma under one year any more. And as for the allegies, well wouldn't that require more tests? DD2 has had one cold after another lately. She set us all off with the first one and now the children have given her a fresh one and it does take ages for them to go. If she has thrush then that implies shes a bit under the weather yet so don't assume the worst at this stage. I'd get a scond opinion if I were you.

Our thrush seems to have gone. Since having her first jab her bowel movements have totally changed (not sure why, probably just co-incidence) anyway instead of constant little poos she now saves it up for a couple of big ones. As a result her bum is "clean" most of the time and the soreness has totally gone. I'm reall chuffed. I am sorry you are still battling though Wills. Makes you wonder if it isn't something esle or if something else is causing the thrush IYSWIM. I certainly don't feel you should feel pressured into feeding though. Don't get me wrong I am one of the biggest advocates of BF but I also think your health and well being are important and if its that bad and you wanted to give up I don't think anyone should make you feel bad. God knows you've put enough effort into it.

I'm feeling a bit low at the moment as having constant rows with DH at the moment and feeling very unloved. Everything is very functional IYSWIM. But despite that I'm having agreeat half term as DH has taken the week off and we are foccussing totally on the kids. Bike rides and days out galore. Yesterday we bought them both walking boots (so cute) and told them they are magic boots which let them walk a long way instead of being carried !!!! And guess what we managed a 2.5 mile hike today!!!!!! And it wasn't even that tough. In fact DS ran half of it.

Oopps DH chaisng me (not supposed to be on my PC this week) so better go.

You're right I'm being melodramatic. The gp did state that they rarely diagnose asthma in children under one but then went on to say that given my history.... I'm reasonally convinced by the allergies being allergies not colds as it never changes. Its a steady constant stuffed nose with lots of sneezing and no other cold symptons. In terms of the bfing I was simply amazed to have this from the woman that basically had told me the best cure for the thrush was to give up breast feeding ! Now she can't tell me to do it enough! I hadn't really wanted to give up, having gone through the last 11 weeks now that I'm finally on the new drugs I have no intention of giving up yet. My frustration is that once thrush free I hadn't had any intention of expressing for "free" time iyswim. Last time with dd1 I felt that expressing merely aggregevated the situation. On the couple of times this time round that I've ended up engorged, every time I've used the Avant hand express pump my nipples have ended bleeding again so I'm loathe to use that method!

dd2's poohs have changed as well but not at the same time as her jabs. This morning she had a brand new outfit on after we'd had a gorgeous bath etc etc - lasted 15 minutes. Poo came out of every single gap in the nappy!!! I wonder why it changes like this? Why have little and often move onto 2/3 explosions? Think I prefered the little and often - luckily I hadn't managed to empty the bath and simply ran a little more hot water in.

elena2 - had my second full night last night, and to think its only been 2 and half weeks since the last one - possibly she'll only wait 1 and half weeks before the next !

Katherine - sorry to hear you're feeling unloved - why? Where did you get the walking boots?

Hi all, back after a holiday in a caravan in isle of wight. first night was -5 degrees and I only had a nighty on! very cold getting out of nice warm bed to get boobs out to feed DD. second night stayed up chatting to friends till midnight then DS1 woke up coughing at 3am went to sleep at 4am, DD up at 4:15am for feed back to bed at 4:30, DS2 up at 5am because duvet fell off, then DD up at 6am for another feed, DS1 coughing again at 6:30 then all 3 up at 7. DH had ordacity to say he was so tired because DS1 woke him up at 3!!

Katherine- great news about final end to thrush. really pleased for you.meant to ask you where you got your nappies and what type they are as I haven't heared of them. I use motherease and totsbots,(which are shaped birth to potty type if you don't know them)

also had change in pooing! she went from every feed to massive explosion every other day and is now once sometimes twice a day. what wonderful topics us mums have to discuss!!

I did a bit of work on wednesday for a friend catering. had to leave dd with DH from 9:30 till 4ish. only problem was she would not take EBM in a bottle! we tried the day before and she screamed so much she fell asleep! (I felt like the worst mum in the world putting her through that) so on the day DH brought all three in the car so I could feed DD in my 5min meal break. It was nice to get out and have adult conversation though.

noone said if their hair is falling out. mine is still coming out in handfulls. anyone else?

Well we've been away too, but we're all back now. I'm going back to work tomorrow so have been expressing like mad. I only do one day a week, but dd still feels just too small to leave. Ds decided yesterday to climb out of his cot, so we had to move him rather hurriedly into his bed. Amazingly, he was fine - the last time we tried him in it he was totally hysterical, but I think maybe he knew the game was up!

Dd has second lot of jabs today - from memory these are the worst ones - anyone else find this? She is such a cutey now - smiling all over the place and she has just started laughing. I'm finding that I can't remember what ds did at the same stages - when do they find their feet for example?

Hope everyone else is fine - bummer about the thrush Wills. I hope it clears up soon. Katherine, dh and I are having quite a lot of rows too - I think it's down to tiredness on both our parts.

Incidentally, talking about explosions - dd decided to have a monster explosion at a motorway service station! Bad mummy had no spare clothes, so ds had to donate his jumper - we looked like a band of gipsies going into the little chef with dd in a jumper 2 years too big for her, and little bare legs, and ds in his vest and trousers. We got some strange looks!

After psyching myself up for work tomorrow, ds has gone and got a tummy upset. So the nursery won't let him go in. Luckily he's quite well in himself, so I can put it off legitimately for another week. Dd had her first bottle of EBM this evening, and that seemed to be ok, and ds decided this week to say bye to his cot, and to sleep in his bed (after falling out of his cot....). So I'm feeling quite positive, and finding that things are falling into place. Just need to brave potty training now (obviously not with dd!!!).

musica- LOL at service station gypsies!!!
that is the sort of thing that happens to me! DH would give me an ear full for not having spares. My DS2 had a poo accident in an estate agents when we were on holiday in august, He has been clean & dry for so long now that I don't take spares around for him any more. of course had loads for DD (then 4wks!) but sadly that wasn't good enough! my crystal ball had obviously let me down!

DD 2nd inj due monday. unless they cancel clinic again! don't remember 2nd being worse infact I think it was better than 1st re fever.

Hi everyone. Been reading all week but never had chance to write.

Wills how are you doing? I do feel for you but really admire the way you are coping .

We got the walking boots from a shop at Carsington reservoir Visitor Centre but found some more the following day at Decathlon. They were cheaper too and had toggle fastening laces which would have been brill for DS. Never mind we'll know next time. DS went to a party after the walk at a soft play centre. I tried to curl up in the ball pool and go to sleep bless him!

Still feeling unloved. Just feel that our relationship is all functional. Lots of squabbles and digs at one another. No physical contact of any kind and never a kind word. Feel like DH resents me being at home - he think s I have it easy. And I resent the way he spends the evening rolling up in the kitchen or smoking outside so I am on my own. I suppose lots of people go through similar after a baby but I don't think its the baby thats the problem here - I think my tolerance is just less so I'm not happy putting up with him. And he moans constantly, everything is always about him! Just not very happy at the moment although all other parts of life are brill.

KMS I'm not loosing hair but I know its quite common. Pg hormones often make your hair go thicker so after the birth you loose the extra. Don't worry. Don't think you are going bald!

I'm using a mixture of pad folded terries, my old kooshies (never thought I'd use them again) and tiddlybums (WAHM made). I used to hate the kooshies but now with decent wraps they are working fine. The tiddybums are gorgeous though, wonderful fabrics. My fav wraps have been wacky wraps but she's just stopped doing them, sob sob so I'm switching to wee monstaz , although I have decided to give wool a go too and have just ordered my first woolly-backs - Have to say Wills that even with the most horendous explosions I've not had a single leak but I remember with the other two in disposables I used to have to strip them in the bath as it shot right up to their necks!

DD2 slept through the night twice last week but since then has been waking 3-4 times a night again so feeling totolly washed out. She's so smiley though its hard to be grumpy

Wow 3 links and they all worked !!!!!

Hi all, have finally made it this far down the search for new messages list...sorry to hear that you are feeling unloved, Katherine. I snorted at the "he thinks I have it easy", I've never heard of such a busy and active mother! There's little time for cuddles in our house at the moment, it has to be said. Also sorry to hear your thrush is still a scourge, Wills. Didn't spot your other mother thread...what is she up to now?
We went away for half-term too (LOL at band of gypsies musica, we staggered into Cambridge services on Sunday night looking like extras from When the Wind Blows). We got as far as the Huntingdon turn-off on the A14 when I was rung to be told our intruder alarm had gone off. As it is quite hi-tech and reliable we assumed the worst, did a u-ie and covered 89 miles in just over an hour...to find our pre-wedding-stressed cleaner had forgotten we were away and set it off. Poor girl was in floods of tears, as were we all, frankly. But we eventually made it to my parents' to receive the usual lectures about the state of our house, my weight, the cheekiness of ds and the regrettable fact that I have to go back to work in January. But it's OK because "it's all for your own good, no-one else will tell you the truth". Sometimes I really detest my mother, so I am there with you in solidarity Wills.
KMS, my hair is coming out too . I hope it will stop cascading once it gets to its pre-pregancy thickness because ds had a headlice scare at school and when I took the nit-comb to it great handfuls came away
Still, dd is adorable and I ought to start a thread on "Unexpected things your HV says", because when I commented wryly on dd's less than meteoric weight gain, my HV said, "oh, but she's breast-fed, isn't she? Well, these charts are worthless, then. I have been trying to get the Trust to supply us with the revised ones for b/f babies for years". I was speechless, an unusual state for me.
Dd is now smiling, crowing and bobbing a lot and very alert during the day. She still wakes once in the night (great news, all you sleepers-through! Good for you ) but is easy to settle. She is so loveable and jolly. We were in Keswick during our break and she was riding around in a sling on dh's front and wearing one of ds' cast-off silly fleece hats. So many people came up to us and said how cute she was - I honestly think it is the hair as she is a pretty baby but not spectacularly so (except in our eyes).
And ds can now read and is proud as punch about it. So apart from the dreaded return to work in January things are OK in Marina Towers. How has it been for you, musica? I go back full-time for the foreseeable future, alas.
I am fascinated to read that everyone else's baby has switched from little and often to supervoid. Changing dd one evening I actually found some leftover poo (from earlier that evening I must point out) in her ARMPIT. I had not thought to check there at the time...