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Whatever you think of the WHO guidelines, you'll be shocked!

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hunkermunker · 05/06/2005 17:26

Well, you might not be.

But I was.

Superdrug's Little Star brand of weaning spoons say suitable from 3 months!

I emailed them and they said they'd pass my comments on to their buyers - wtf?!

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 15/02/2006 21:14

Why oh why though, are you checking out weaning spoons already when DS is only 3 WEEKS OLD FFS

You evil mother.

Flossam · 15/02/2006 21:33

Perhaps he's not sleeping through the night yet...

Piffle · 15/02/2006 21:34

But surely he's on GF ?

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hunkermunker · 15/02/2006 21:36

He's not sleeping through So thought a bit of baby rice might fill him up.

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londonmummy · 15/02/2006 21:37

must say I'm genuinely shocked that people introduce solids before 4 months - I've never heard of such a thing and can't believe sd recommend spoons from 3 months. ok, I know some babies need solids before 6 months, but isn't weaning beofre 17 weeks dangerous?

Flossam · 15/02/2006 21:37

Still not Hunker? When did you start the bottles then?

Piffle · 15/02/2006 21:37

You did well to wait til 3 weeks Hunker...

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hunkermunker · 15/02/2006 21:39

LM, I agree. Yes, it can be harmful to babies to wean them too early (but it's one of those - but I was weaned at a day old and no harm has befallen me topics).

Floss - bottles? Begone!

Oh, just realised - DS2 is four weeks old, so I'll get the blender out

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 15/02/2006 21:39

True true piffle. Have you tried some rusk in the bottle.....

VeniVidiVickiQV · 15/02/2006 21:40

Am wondering why there is such a market for immodium these days though, arent you?

Piffle · 15/02/2006 21:41

baby in a blender just because he won't sleep?
baby rice is one thing hunker but sheesh

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hunkermunker · 15/02/2006 21:41

Yes, does make me smile wryly when people say "never did me any harm" while obviously Not In The Best Of Health...

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londonmummy · 15/02/2006 21:43

speaking about inappropriate marketing, anyone seen the cow& gate ad in the baby mags saying 'Not sure how to help build your baby's natural defences if you're not breast feeding? - That's why we're here to help' (shock). Then at the bottom they say: 'Breastfeeding si best for your baby....Just so they can't be accused of breaking the law I suppose, but seems a bit of hypocrisy to me

Piffle · 15/02/2006 21:44

yes like my mother and smoking...
Flu over xmas, hacking cough 24/7 for 3 weeks...
Nothing to do with the smoking apparently
Although she gave up 4 weeks ago, stating (somewhat hypocritically but I am too scared of her to point it out) I never want to be that ill, ever again
Bah

lailag · 15/02/2006 21:46

HM, why baby rice/rusks now????
I followed the 6 months guidlines (in 2000), not because of maternal instincts (what are they, I never knew really when ds/dd were hungry/not satisfied with bf).
But at least you have an excuse to sit on mumsnet the whole evening with ds/dd plugged in for the whole evening.
BTW, wonder whether I can start smoking/mumsnet/have dd plugged in all at the same time; (was told by a doctor that smoking doctors lived longer than non-smoking doctors, do they will surely change the guidlines about smoking soon)

VeniVidiVickiQV · 15/02/2006 21:51

There never used to be such a thing as IBS, food intolerances/allergies..........all more prevalent.

sweetkitty · 15/02/2006 21:53

I was thinking of mashing up some rusk with a milk bottle whacking it in a bottle, making the teat hole bigger with a nail then feeding DD2 tonight? Was what my mother did to premmie me in the 70s and I'm ok (ish) apparently I slept for 18 hours at a time no wonder.

I was weaned at 6 weeks on egg custard and at 8 weeks had tatties and mince!!!

Tatties · 15/02/2006 22:32

So this is the famous weaning spoons debate! Well HM my 10mth old is still not sleeping through. Big bowl of porridge before bed my *%$!

Flossam · 16/02/2006 12:26

You know Hunker I've been thinking about this. Imagine your 4 week old still not sleeping through the night .

I advice CC. He's nearly a month old now, he's been around long enough to know that night time is for sleeping! He is just playing you up. HTH.

wannaBe1974 · 16/02/2006 12:49

I agree that superdrug's packaging shouldn't specify from 3 months, as weening has never been encouraged from 3 months to the best of my knowledge. Until just 2 years ago though, the general guidelines were to start weening babies from 4 months. And of course it's not a blanket "every baby should be weened at 4 months" but there are some babies who need to be weened earlier than others.

I started weening my DS at 4 months, and there is absolutely no way on this earth that I could have waited any longer. He became more restless, was constantly hungry and crying, and yet he was rejecting his milk. Giving him more milk simply was not an option, he went from drinking full bottles of milk to only drinking half bottles and then crying because he was still hungry, on consultation with my HV she said that he was ready to be weened, to try some baby rice which I did and the results were instantanious. I wouldn't have tried earlier than that though, but if I have another baby I will do exactly the same. Children have been weened from 4 months for centuries, and it is only recently that people have been advised that it is harmful, and yet look at the increase in alergies and food intolerance that exists. it's similar to people being told not to eat certain things when pg in case babies become alergic, not to expose babies to certain things until a certain age in case of a bad reaction, and yet when most of us were little our parents ate what they wanted when pg, gave foods that they wanted to their babies whenever they thought their babies wanted them, and in our day we didn't have nearly as many fetal abnormalities or childhood alergies as we do now. Aren't we now perhaps being too over cautious? I do agree that if there are alergies in a family then one needs to be more careful, but otherwise I am very scepticle.

Tatties · 17/02/2006 12:03

Oh yes 4wks old and not sleeping through, manipulative little so and sos they are at this age, eh?

sharklet · 17/02/2006 15:03

Aha, now I know what the weaning spoons bit was about!

I agree its awful that superdrug have labelled them that way and they should change it. It just gives the impresson that weaning that early is a good idea / recommended etc. We know that it's not and yes you might well be fine if you had your first macdonalds puree'd at 3 weeks old but...

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hunkermunker · 17/02/2006 15:09

wannaBe1974, babies haven't been weaned at 4 months for centuries - it's only in the last few decades that this has become common, largely, I believe, because of the large baby food companies telling us it's necessary. My grandmother and great aunt were amazed that DS1 had any food before he was a year old and eight or nine months was common.

So the next part of your argument about the rise of allergies, etc now can be explained by early weaning, don't you think?

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VeniVidiVickiQV · 17/02/2006 15:20

Rise in allergies and bowel disorders have increased only since post war britain, mainly 60's onwards where everything - including childbirth became medicalised and scrutinised (apparently wrongly so now it seems).

harpsichordcarrier · 17/02/2006 15:33

seriously hunker?? that's BAD

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