LGJ I hope I haven't pissed you off, I wasn't defending Lonelymum - I can't anyway as I didn't see the thread you are referring to. I just think some people, and maybe LM is one of those, who speak before they think but don't mean anything malicious by what they say. They are just a tad insensitive. I totally understand where you are coming from though, and a comment like that if I were in your shoes would grate on me and not somethign I would forget in a hurry.