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If food prices have risen by - what? 20% - and fuel is sky rocketing then tell me WHY...

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objectivity · 09/06/2008 10:55

...are those dependent on state benefits still subsisting on the same paltry weekly allowance?

As a lone parent I have been in work and out of work from time to time, sometimes supported by Tax Credits, other times dependent upon Income Support. The money never really stretches far enough, but how on EARTH are we supposed to survive if everything is now costing more.

An annual review isn't good enough. My weekly costs are rising and rising, from week to week pretty much, so if my allocated benefit is the minimum I need to live on in April, and prices have risen since then, how am I supposed to be surviving in June?

Anyone else REALLY struggling- more than ever?

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conniedescending · 09/06/2008 14:34

it means you have to have the right internet connection and type of browser, storage etc....they run a systems check for you to clarify this.

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks · 09/06/2008 14:35

So you moan that you being on benefits will have less income than those working - but then you say that you actually get more money from being on benefits that working. You totally contradict yourself.

I wish I had the option of a pay rise - however I am on a national pay scale, set by the government. So no chance of a pay rise.

My dh has just had a PAY CUT of 12k a year!!! He works for a small company that is struggling and he's had to accept this or know that the company will go bust and he will have no job. Yes he's looking elsewhere but its not very easy walking into another job.

So not only are out household bills rocketing we have 1k less a month income!

zippitippitoes · 09/06/2008 14:35

but it implies personal qualifications too

conniedescending · 09/06/2008 14:39

well, you need certain qualities - they do a phone role play/ interview IIRC but they are not asking for formal qualifications.

QueenMeabhOfConnaught · 09/06/2008 14:49

My dh has just had a pay cut of 12%.

My pay rise this year was £20pm. My manager's pay rise was 57 pence pm.

This is the real world of work.

posieparker · 09/06/2008 16:15

Hey Connie, I listen to Jeremy Vine and my Mother economised, I am not loaded just stupid with money. I should be loaded with the income of this house but alas we're the same as when dp earnt half as much. I have the tools to economise but not the need or will, it will come. When dp leaves me because I am too untidy and forgetful, economising and I will become friends, very good ones!!!

StillaRose · 09/06/2008 16:15

I've only read the first few pages of this thread, so forgive me if I am repeating what someone else has said.

Objectivity, I think you were well within you rights to start this thread, and to make the comments based on your experience and situation. I don't understand what some peoples problems are that makes them so bitchy and aggressive. Women work, don't work, live off their husbands, live on benefits, run their own business, or just live on the amount of money they have.

The point people were missing here is that the government sets an amount that they say is the minimum needed to live on. They are not giving you money for, sky, broadband, nights out, organic food, new shoes etc. This means that anyone who can't work, such as me and the op and thousands of other women should buy crap food, pay our gas and electric bills, wear second hand clothes and sit at home and be miserable. Does it?

People who work do not pay for me to be home bringing up my children, once my children are old enough to be in school I will go out to work and pay taxes, which will very quickly cover the pathetic amount given to me over the last couple of years.

The way prices of things have gone up is horrible, to find you are having to put back food that you actually need because it has come to too much is awful, and embarrassing and makes me angry that I can't give my children the best, and healthiest options.
I do not smoke, I do not drive, I do not go on holidays, or nights out, I get given clothes by my sisters. I do not have sky, I don't get haircuts, I have a pay as you go mobile and no landline. I live in a very small 2 bed house with 3 children.

I get £59 a week to live on for myself, £312 a month for my children and child benefit which you get whether you work or not. This doesn't feel to me like society values mothers and the job they do, I am bringing up children who will go on to work and contribute to our country and yet I get payed the absolute minimum they can legally get away with giving me.

posieparker · 09/06/2008 16:21

Connie, I think it's only fair you write your list of dog walking, etc jobs that people can do with children.

conniedescending · 09/06/2008 16:32

why?? just so you can be smug and critical again?

when your DH earns 200k a year I do not expect you to have any sense of what it's actually like being a low/ middle income family.

If I have to go dog walking to earn money so that we don't lose our home and we can pay our bills then I will. This is my reality. I have to do these jobs that so many of you think are crap or beneath you. I have had to find thigs that will still allow me to be a sahm and earn an income. It is not impossible but it is not easy.

But laugh away PP at the shit way I earn an income because I am safe in the knowledge that I can support my family should anything happen to mt husband. I am also contributing taxes which is more than can be said for you.

posieparker · 09/06/2008 16:38

No, I actually agree with you.....
Different day Connie and I feel a little educated after the last thread, I think we probably agree on more on this topic than I may have let on .
Sorry to cause such a stir

nailpolish · 09/06/2008 16:39

StillaRose

the OP CAN work. she just chooses not to.

and all those things you listed, people who work have to do without them too. people on low income. stop wallowing. its life.

posieparker · 09/06/2008 16:39

PS It's £250k

posieparker · 09/06/2008 16:40

Just to add, I admire you... you in the enviable position of being respected left, right and centre on these boards.
I truly couldn't wait for you to start posting on this!

conniedescending · 09/06/2008 16:42

Oh I stand corrected then......

Has he had a payrise then now you've revolusioned his office with the software you designed?

expatinscotland · 09/06/2008 16:44

Cool, Youcantbeserious is back .

More from my fat mouth later - was too busy trying to make ends meet on low wages here.

Chequers · 09/06/2008 16:47

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expatinscotland · 09/06/2008 16:49

FWIW, I did do telemarketing once. I lived in a nation that doesn't have such a generous benefits system - you have to really not be able to work to access it.

It wasn't the best job I had - the manager used to get stoned with us at break times outside behind the dumpsters - but it was work and we made the best of it.

Mercy · 09/06/2008 16:52

Not a home-based job but I know someone who does babysitting in the evenings and at weekends. The work is irregular but reasonably well paid.

Another person I know is a school rep for a job agency for mothers.

posieparker · 09/06/2008 17:05

Chequers, 'eh?

expatinscotland · 09/06/2008 17:07

it's not the majority, i know, but there are quite a few people who will use any excuse in the book not to work.

Chequers · 09/06/2008 17:07

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posieparker · 09/06/2008 17:13

But £200k is alright??? Jeez, get a grip, it was a joke! Whether people earn £20k or £250k the debate is just as relevant for all, there are those that contribute a fortune to the budget, those that contribute more than they can afford and there are those that live off it. I can't see what difference my dp's income makes???
Connie, I would prefer details of other threads to remain relevant there, otherwise I'll have to namechange to avoid the inverted snobbery.

zippitippitoes · 09/06/2008 17:17

there are people who dont want to work but there are people who cant get jobs even in bars and tescos and as admin assistants receptionists mental health mentors art gallery assistant etc

all jobs i have applied for and i have had two interviews in two years

one for immigration control which was actually quite a high flying job and ingotn as far as the test ctre which was very difficukt
and as an admin assistant in a training centre which they asked me to go for as i had actuallybapplied for the job of receptionist but they asked me to an ionterview for a higher paid job

Chequers · 09/06/2008 17:18

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conniedescending · 09/06/2008 17:26

inverted snobbery oh poor you!

I didn't mention dog walking on this thread either so perhaps you have transferred some details from previous threads of mine???

And back to the point, I think it is absolutely ludicrous to come onto a thread about how hard it is to make ends meet and offering tips on money saving when you have no desire and little need to economise yourself (as you have said already).