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Offensive/degrading to women, or all in good fun?

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Earlybird · 09/05/2008 12:43

At the hairdresser yesterday, a woman was telling her stylist (in a very loud voice) about her company (she obviously wanted everyone to hear as clients were/are her 'target' market). She teaches classes, and does 'many private parties for hen nights, birthdays' etc.

At the end of her appointment, she gave the salon owner (who was doing my hair), a large stack of business cards and asked if he would put them in the reception area. When the woman had gone, the owner asked what I thought of her company, and whether it would be 'good fun' to place her cards up front.

The woman's business? Female only classes where students are taught to pole dance, lap dance and do 'aerobic' striptease (though she hastened to add, no one strips off completely in class).

Your opinion?

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TigerFeet · 09/05/2008 15:11

Thing is though, if I were to go to a pole dancing class [unlikely] I would go in a baggy tshirt and tracky bottoms. Hardly sexy.

But on balance I agree with harpsi et al

dittany · 09/05/2008 15:14

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shhhh · 09/05/2008 15:18

imo, all in good fun and a good way to exercise. If you don't agree then don't go iykiwm..!

Its not as though she is training them and then saying "Oh you must now go and earn a wage at the local strip joint" although tbh women that do that are not degrading etc imo..Just earning a living I suppose..

Its the individuals choice to get a card and to attend..

dittany · 09/05/2008 15:22

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shhhh · 09/05/2008 15:38

But how that can be the case if its for a form of ..? It sounds like this is what this womans class is aimed at, as well the fun aspect...

I don't feel the need to go to lapdancing classes because of society and to keep my dh interested..! If dh went to a lapdancer then yeah I would be annoyed but to feel I had to compete .

BTW what about ann summers parties..? or bodyshop parties..? Aimed at women..? Do men kick up a fuss..?!

nappyaddict · 09/05/2008 15:52

all good fun. it's a laugh and really good for toning up and keeping fit.

NotQuiteCockney · 09/05/2008 19:02

There are bazillions of great fun ways to tone up and keep fit (which I'd count bellydancing among, to be fair). Why not rock climbing? Or kayaking? Or football?

Why does 'fun' and 'keeping fit' always have to be about attractiveness?

dittany · 09/05/2008 19:08

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shhhh · 09/05/2008 19:23

dittany,im sure when participating in what earlybirds original thread is about..shoes are not compulsory .

Also, I would do a double take if I came home and found dh trying his hand at pole dancing ...................

TheDuchessOfNorksBride · 09/05/2008 19:24

I also agree with harpsi.

Women writhing around a pole look more ridiculous than sexy, no?

dittany · 09/05/2008 19:27

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DarrellRivers · 09/05/2008 19:31

It's the same as the playboy rabbit on children's pencil cases.
Women perceived as sexual playthings for men and I hate it.
Emily Pankhurst would be turning in her grave

franch · 09/05/2008 19:33

harpsichordcarrier is spot on - and dittany and CatIsSleepy and others

Quattrocento · 09/05/2008 19:33

Strewth

Revolting, degrading and vulgar

Quattrocento · 09/05/2008 19:34

Didja have to ask?

nkf · 09/05/2008 19:35

Vulgar yes. And pathetic. And making things like stripping mainstream. And probably a rubbish form of exercise. People must think women are fools and lord knows, some try hard to make them think so.

nkf · 09/05/2008 19:36

But I expect someone will come along and talk about "choice" in a minute.

BBBee · 09/05/2008 19:42

women only and fun - maybe we are taking ownership of the pole dance for ourselves rather than to titilate men.

Like belly dancing went from fun for women to titilating men, pole dancing is going from titlating men to fun for women.

Quattrocento · 09/05/2008 19:45

I like all forms of dancing

pole dancing is not about dancing

it's about titillation

and i've never heard of women doing it for their own pleasure

TO the OP - find a better hairdresser - one without dodgy clientele

dittany · 09/05/2008 19:45

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edam · 09/05/2008 19:45

It's very sad that women are now doing this to themselves. Bloody capitalism. There are plenty of ways to dance and exercise that haven't developed from the commercialised sex industry.

BBBee · 09/05/2008 19:46

why si it just for titlating men?

I suppose if it doesn;t work her business will fall flat.

nkf · 09/05/2008 19:47

Her business will probably boom because too many women are daft.

Quattrocento · 09/05/2008 19:47

I am in tears at the thought of that revolting woman's business going down (fnar)

NOT

shhhh · 09/05/2008 19:48

nkfe, I have already mentioned "choice". If you want to do it fine, if you don't then don't....simple .

Its not my idea of fun BUT I wouldn't look down on someone for doing it..In fact my friend recently started classes following the birth of her 1st baby....

So come on, how is this any different to ann summers parties..? whats the views on those..?