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What to expect for sentencing at court on Friday?

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Ladieunlucky · 23/09/2024 07:51

Im being sentenced this Friday at crown court. I was charged for fraud under false representation due to a manic episode where I stole money from employers. I have bi polar disorder and was un medicated at the time. I handed myself in when I realised what I did and I have lost all my friends and reputation, butonly what I deserve. This charge is because I was in a position of trust. I have seen a psychiatrist for pre sentencing report.

I’ve been advised the sentencing guidelines start at 3 years, reduced by a 3rd because of my early guilty plea and co operation. Mitigating factors are I have not offended before, early plea and co operation, previous good character, have a 15 year old who I have joint custody with. And also my mental illness.

I am prepared for a custodial sentence and just wondered what I can expect on the day in court, how long it takes as no there is no trial. And what to pack in my bag to bring to prison?

I understand this may be my fate and what I deserve and have never once said I’m not guilty. Please just kind comments as this time is very difficult x

OP posts:
Milkand2sugarsplease · 27/11/2024 18:33

Sorry, tagged the wrong person @Ladieunlucky

Sorry @Dontjudgeme101 (but I've just done it again to say sorry!!! 😂

Floralnomad · 27/11/2024 18:36

Congratulations @Ladieunlucky , onwards and upwards from here 💐

FormerlySpeckledyHen · 27/11/2024 18:36

Onwards and upwards to your new life @Ladieunlucky. Wishing you all the very best for the future to you both.

Ponderingwindow · 27/11/2024 18:56

excellent outcome.

FictionalCharacter · 27/11/2024 18:56

Ladieunlucky · 27/11/2024 15:49

Hi all I’m home! The best outcome I could of asked for.

Suspended sentence of 2 years, and electronic curfew with a tag for 4 months. Aswell as 10 rehabilitation days. The curfew is from the hours of 8pm-5am 5 days a week. With Tuesday and Wednesday no curfew. The judge decided this as Xmas eve and day, as well as New Year’s Eve are all Tuesday or weds so he said this is time to spend with my daughter. And the hours are to allow me to travel to work. The judge did rip me apart in there which is what I deserve, he said I’m not a good role model to my daughter which I know and hate myself for. But he also said looking at my other background, mental health and abuse from my childhood, he’s taken all of that into account but wasn’t going to air it in the court room. He said that my daughter is doing her GCSEs and I need to go and support her. He sent me to custody for an hour where I was put in a cell to wait. While he decided on the sentencing.

Im relieved and everything he said was fair and I just now want to try be the best mum I can be. Thank you all for you support you’ve been with me every step of the way 🩷 I’m astonished by all your kindness.

I’m really pleased for you. Prison would have done nothing but damage to you and your children, wouldn’t have help you pay any money back and wasn’t necessary for retribution because you feel absolute remorse anyway. A sensible sentence IMO.

Whattheduck · 27/11/2024 18:57

Wishing you all the best for the future and wishing you a peaceful Christmas

TheBossOfMe · 27/11/2024 19:11

Perfect result. So very pleased for you.

JaffavsCookie · 27/11/2024 19:28

Brilliant, onwards and upwards OP

GrannyAchingsShepherdsHut · 27/11/2024 19:37

I'm very happy for you @Ladieunlucky and for your daughter.

ALovelyCupOfNameChange · 27/11/2024 19:42

Oh that is fantastic news! You’ve been in my thoughts today.
what an absolute relief for you and your daughter. id imagine your going to have the most fantastic nights sleep tonight

so pleased for you.

Howmanyusernames123 · 27/11/2024 19:55

FictionalCharacter · 27/11/2024 18:56

I’m really pleased for you. Prison would have done nothing but damage to you and your children, wouldn’t have help you pay any money back and wasn’t necessary for retribution because you feel absolute remorse anyway. A sensible sentence IMO.

Did you get any sort of order to pay the money back as part of the sentence @Ladieunlucky ?

Are you planning to pay it back?

I hope your victim is as delighted with the sentence as mumsnet.

Xmasmunkeh · 27/11/2024 19:58

So glad you'll be home for Christmas.

FlamingoQueen · 27/11/2024 20:33

Great news. Hope you can move forward and live your best life.

PenelopePitStrop · 27/11/2024 20:39

Very relieved for you OP.

The right result.

Will you be able to get the right support for your MH, and for taking your meds to ensure you are able to get organised and on schedule for the tag conditions? Not get distracted and lose track of time and cut things fine? It's going to be really really important that you do stick to all the conditions.

Wishing you the best of luck and a great Christmas.

purplepandas · 27/11/2024 20:53

WIshing you well op, may this be a new future fo you and your family.

Pancakeflipper · 27/11/2024 21:07

Thanks for updating.

I'm happy to hear you are home. Take care.

ThreeLocusts · 27/11/2024 21:47

I'm so glad and relieved to read this, it's massively improved my evening. Have a lovely Christmas season, and take care.

JessicaPeach · 27/11/2024 21:50

I bet you'll sleep well tonight @Ladieunlucky , am very pleased to read the outcome. Best of luck to you

LilacClovers · 27/11/2024 22:21

So so pleased for you! I hope you and your daughter have a wonderful Christmas x

Gazelda · 27/11/2024 22:25

Absolutely thrilled for you.

I hope you get all the help and support you need to rebuild your life with ongoing care for your condition.

Ohnobackagain · 27/11/2024 22:48

So pleased for you.

WeightLossGoal2024 · 27/11/2024 22:56

Wonderful now you can focus on the future with your DD!

SpidersAreShitheads · 27/11/2024 22:58

Howmanyusernames123 · 27/11/2024 19:55

Did you get any sort of order to pay the money back as part of the sentence @Ladieunlucky ?

Are you planning to pay it back?

I hope your victim is as delighted with the sentence as mumsnet.

IIRC the OP has periods of lost memory so she doesn't know how much she took - but she thought it was significantly less than the victim was claiming. Significantly. However, the OP handed herself when she realised what she'd done and hasn't contested a single thing - even though many people in her position may well have asked for actual proof of the amount they claimed she stole (no proof has ever been provided, I believe).

I also remember from PP that the OP has offered to pay it back, or do anything to somehow make it right.

Of course none of us would be as thrilled if we were the victims. However, the OP has had two threads now where she's been open, honest, and transparent and has taken lots of shit on the chin for what she's done. She took the money when she was in the middle of a mental health crisis, a manic episode, she didn't just put her fingers in the till because she fancied a new dress.

Prison isn't supposed to be about revenge. She has an appropriate sentence, a criminal record, and most of us think that's about right, given the circumstances of what happened.

I don't think the OP needs a beating - I'm glad MN is collectively giving her support while she tries to rebuild her life.

frecklejuice · 28/11/2024 08:58

This is definitely the best outcome op, so pleased that it didn’t end in a prison sentence. You and your daughter can move on with your lives now, good luck with everything.

VivaDixie · 28/11/2024 12:31

SpidersAreShitheads · 27/11/2024 22:58

IIRC the OP has periods of lost memory so she doesn't know how much she took - but she thought it was significantly less than the victim was claiming. Significantly. However, the OP handed herself when she realised what she'd done and hasn't contested a single thing - even though many people in her position may well have asked for actual proof of the amount they claimed she stole (no proof has ever been provided, I believe).

I also remember from PP that the OP has offered to pay it back, or do anything to somehow make it right.

Of course none of us would be as thrilled if we were the victims. However, the OP has had two threads now where she's been open, honest, and transparent and has taken lots of shit on the chin for what she's done. She took the money when she was in the middle of a mental health crisis, a manic episode, she didn't just put her fingers in the till because she fancied a new dress.

Prison isn't supposed to be about revenge. She has an appropriate sentence, a criminal record, and most of us think that's about right, given the circumstances of what happened.

I don't think the OP needs a beating - I'm glad MN is collectively giving her support while she tries to rebuild her life.

Absolutely 100% all of this. Well said Spiders.

OP I am absolutely delighted for you. I work in the legal sector and know for a fact that the remorse and insight that you have shown has gone in your favour.

My son is also doing his GCSEs and I know that sending you to prison would have had a detrimental effect on your DDs exams and future. The judge has seen that and has made the right call.

I'm just so pleased for you. I wish you and your DD a wonderful Christmas. Also, good luck to your DD in her exams - me and DS are right there with you both in solidarity!

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