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CAN ANYONE ANSWER THIS REALLY ODD DEPRESSING QUESTION???

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igglepiggles · 22/02/2008 21:43

if a mother has an 12 week old baby and tries to committ suicide eg Slashing wrists and then threaten to kill her DH/DP (not the baby) but she is either asleep or really sort of blacked out and doesnt even know she is doing it. and she does need hospital treatment eg stitches. but the DP/DH is sane, what will happen to the mother??

i kow this is an odd question but can anyone answer it??

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Desiderata · 22/02/2008 22:05

Very difficult, as Lulu says. Some men can be very precious about their safety when a woman makes a remark when depressed. He may not be reflecting the full picture.

Is she taking drugs of any sort? Is she an addict?

peanutbear · 22/02/2008 22:05

They arent like hospitals really you have your own bedroom and bathroom and people to talk to 24 hours a day the ones we went to weren't even attached to a hospital

and it works the treatment every thing it does work

I think everyone is frightened when you go there for the first time but its not anywhere near what you picture in your head

seasidemama · 22/02/2008 22:06

Agree with lulamama. Also - the sooner she gets help the more likely it is that she'll avoid a section and be out quickly. If the situation reaches utter crisis point then it often ends up dragging out and being far more traumatic for all involved.

Lulumama · 22/02/2008 22:06

whatever is wrong, that needs to be diagnosed by the appropriate medical personnel.

how would she feel if she came too from a black out having hrut the baby or her DH ?

it needs sorting now, not later.

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igglepiggles · 22/02/2008 22:06

and yes "wakes up" not knowing what has happend and feels very scared and was definatly not feeling suicidal before being asleep/blacked out

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Lulumama · 22/02/2008 22:08

this has to be stopped in its tracks before something worse happens than this

and the need to keep herself and her baby safe is paramount and should override any phobia of hospitals

Ledodgy · 22/02/2008 22:09

It could be a form of night terrors she needs it invesitgated whatever it is.

peanutbear · 22/02/2008 22:09

How well do you know this person ???

GerrardWinstanley · 22/02/2008 22:10

the dh/dp in question could try calling Mind in confidence for advice, but I think they would advise seeking medical help. She needs help even tho she's resisting it. It is part of his job as a husband/partner to look after her when she is ill. For her own good that may mean calling in a doctor even against her wishes. Someone with puerperal psychosis will probably not see that they are behaving oddly. It happened to a friend of mine and she could not be convinced that her bizarre behaviour was cause for concern.

seasidemama · 22/02/2008 22:11

Sounds like "sleepwalking violence" maybe, (an overlap between sleepwalking and sleep terror according to the DSM) but whatever it is it needs sorting by a medic.

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igglepiggles · 22/02/2008 22:11

ok so if it is night terrors where does she stand? i will tell you why in a min i promise

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GerrardWinstanley · 22/02/2008 22:12

sorry - took to long composing that post. Maybe not PN illness then, but still definitely needs at least a trip to the GP.

seasidemama · 22/02/2008 22:13

I would have thought she would still end up sectioned tbh if she wouldn't go voluntarily. She'd still be a risk to herself/others and it would be due to a treatable psych diagnosis. I think (someone tell me if I'm wrong) that that's what's needed for a section.

Lulumama · 22/02/2008 22:14

look, whatever it is, it is serious , the safety and wellbeing of 3 people is at risk. she has harmed herself and threatened to harm her DH, whther it is thorugh psyhcosis or something else, it is dangerous and needs addressing

peanutbear · 22/02/2008 22:15

What did the Drs at he hospital say to her when then sorted out her wrists didnt they help her or give her any advice

Desiderata · 22/02/2008 22:19

A sleep disorder and slashing wrists don't strike me as compatible, unless the lady has a previous history of self-harm.

Lulumama · 22/02/2008 22:23

i thikn so too desi.

am off now,so will check back in the morning... hope the OPs friend or whoever she is posting about gets the help she needs

peanutbear · 22/02/2008 22:24

Igglepiggles are you ok in all of this

GerrardWinstanley · 22/02/2008 22:25

whether she's afraid of hospitalisation or being estranged from her baby, then the sooner she seeks help, the less likely those things are to happen. If she wants to keep control over what happens to her and her baby, she needs to speak to her GP or HV now.

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igglepiggles · 22/02/2008 22:26

mmm. IMHO i would have thought sectioned for atleast a mental assessment then take it from there.

A person i know done this what she thinks was in her sleep. at the hosp they asked questions and managed to get her DP to lie with/for her as he knows of her phobia. she said that they had had an argument and that it was more of an attention thing. she had to go back to the hosp next day for a "chat" with phyciatrist. they stuck to the same story. she told her DP that she doesnt remember doing any of it but she s told me that she remembers the last bit with the ambulance. but she reckons she was asleep. she s been put on anti deppressants but has stopped taking them and now (after 6months) im worried it could happen again. she s told me shes having terrible night mares but she s not sleep walking or talking.

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KacyB · 22/02/2008 22:26

I still can't see any reason on earth you wouldn't go voluntarily........

Though I am guessing there is something else going on, as 'blacking out' hs been mentioned several times and that's not consistent with just going to sleep.

It sounds like some sort of meds, whether prescription or illegal, are playing a part in this.

All I know, if I woke up from this, I'd be down to the hospital pronto and my DH would be fully supportive........

peanutbear · 22/02/2008 22:27

has she come of the medicines herself I think you have to take them for longer than 6 months coming of them that quickly without medical help can cause all kinds of side effects

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igglepiggles · 22/02/2008 22:34

well she said she she cut them down by herself. but she was at one point taken loads more than what was perscribed! she used to as a teen have blackouts as in sort of fainting but out for 20 mins at some points then it stopped. the docs honestly couldnt pinpoint what it was.

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Boco · 22/02/2008 22:40

My dp has REM sleep behaviour disorder - might be worth looking up. Characterised by violent dreams that are acted out but no recollections in the morning. Treated with a drug to knock out that part of his brain during sleep.

hertsnessex · 22/02/2008 22:41

With PP - you have no feeling of 'normal' and it is highly likely that this lady will take things to a v dangerous level if not helped. She may not 'want' to go in - but needs to if things are that bad.

I worked with someone who had this and no amount of 'help' offered/given was enough and she took her own life.

this is not to be taken lightly.

i hope she gets help - her dh is only being a fool to himself to back-up her story.