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Anyone know about Jane Seymore - wife of King Henry VIII?

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NAB3wishesfor2008 · 20/01/2008 14:49

She died 12 days after giving birth to a son. I can't believe she was beheaded when she had given the King what he wanted but something clearly wasn't right.

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Blandmum · 20/01/2008 14:50

She was't beheaded. She died of 'Child bed fever'

edam · 20/01/2008 14:50

Jane Seymour wasn't beheaded. She was the one after Anne Boleyn (who was beheaded). Jane died of childbed fever, IIRC.

Why do you ask?

NAB3wishesfor2008 · 20/01/2008 14:51

I saw somethings about her at Diver Castle yesterday but it didn't say why/how she died. I loved History at school and still enjoy it now. I have never heard of child bed fever. Seems so sad.

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hunkermunker · 20/01/2008 14:52

Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.

saltire · 20/01/2008 14:53

here

Blandmum · 20/01/2008 14:56

basically she had an infection caught during the delivery, which wasn't an easy one. No antibiotics in those days. So she died.

Katherine of Aragon was divorced, actually the marriage was said never to have happened because she had been married to Henry's brother Arthur, who died.

Anne Boleyn beheaded on trumped up charges of witchcraft and being unfaithful to the king

JS natural causes

Anne of Cleve's, Henry didn't fancy her, and never got it up, so the wedding was anulled

Catherin Howard, really was unfaithful to Henry so got it in the neck

Catherin Parr, out lived him

WendyWeber · 20/01/2008 14:59

Mind you if she hadn't died from giving birth he would probably have gone off her later and beheaded her then - fidelity (and compassion) weren't his strong suits

saltire · 20/01/2008 14:59

Catherine Howard was used as a pawn by her family - in my opion anyway. Her uncle was the Duke of (I think) Norfolk and wanted to be close to the throne

Blandmum · 20/01/2008 15:02

He wouldn't have bothered to behead them to have a bit on the side. He had lots of bits on the side while married. Mary Bolyn for one, and Bessie Blount for another, and had children by them.

The killer was not having a son in wedlock.

Greensleeves · 20/01/2008 15:08

martianbishop, you forgot incest

Blandmum · 20/01/2008 15:09

How coould that have slipped my mind!

And wasn't she suppsed to be giving her lute player one, Smeaton (?) or summat??

DumbledoresGirl · 20/01/2008 15:10

I have heard that Jane was the only one Henry truly loved. She did indeed die of childbed fever after giving him the son he so longed for.

Mind you, I think the bit about her being the only one he truly loved is just a bit of poignant hindsight. Who knows, if she had lived, she might have ended up beheaded too?

WendyWeber · 20/01/2008 15:11

snap, DG

DumbledoresGirl · 20/01/2008 15:11

Oh yes, good point MB. I really should read threads before replying!

DumbledoresGirl · 20/01/2008 15:13

I wasn't copying you WW! I have honestly thought of that before!

Hmmmm, bought the Tudors DVD yesterday.... raining and dull here..... DG slips off to watch tv.....

Greensleeves · 20/01/2008 15:15

yes, poor Mark Smeaton, he died the more horrific death because he was a commoner, after being hideously tortured by Wriothesley, sadistic bastard. Smeaton sadly was the one who dropped Anne in it, under torture he named Dereham, Culpeper and George Boleyn

fascinating IMO

Jane Seymour was like any other female member of a leading family (esp. Howards and Seymours who competed for top magnate position for generations - Anne Boleyn was a Howard too, though her mother, she was Katherine Howard's cousin). Her father and brothers dangled her in front of the king to try and distract him from Anne Boleyn, at a time when he was becoming a bit disenchanted with her - she was pushy about the new religion, which pissed him off, she didn't look the other way at his infidelities, she produced a girl....and women who are going through multiple miscarriages are such dull company for a man

hunkermunker · 20/01/2008 15:17

I love this whole chunk of history - fascinating stuff. And such interesting looking clothes!

Blandmum · 20/01/2008 15:19

there is a theory that Henry and KA may have had incompatable rhesus factors, explaining why she did give birth to some live children, there was a boy that died in babyhood as well as Mary

I also love this period of history

hunkermunker · 20/01/2008 15:20

I used to love reading Jean Plaidy books when I was about 14

Blandmum · 20/01/2008 15:20

snap!

hunkermunker · 20/01/2008 15:21

Particularly the Katherine Parr one - The Last Queen, was it?

Greensleeves · 20/01/2008 15:22

I loved The Lady In The Tower

Greensleeves · 20/01/2008 15:22

and the Thomas More one, that was interesting

hunkermunker · 20/01/2008 15:24

Oh, yes, the Thomas More one - think I must still have them somewhere. Will have to dig them out and reread.

Greensleeves · 20/01/2008 15:25

Joanna Denny writes good books on this period, she's descended from Anthony Denny who was a Tudor politician