Rude??? Just how rude are some people

[CrazyLady]

Just how rude are some people.

Let me set the scene.

Today was having lunch (a drink & a sandwich) with a fellow mumnetter (whom I shall call Barking Mad)(name changed to protect the innocent) (also who is naughty and wouldn?t let me go halves on lunch, big thanks). By the way I am 36+ weeks pregn.

Anyway, sitting at this round table, we are sitting on the back seat and there are 2 chairs on the other side of the table.

An old woman comes up to us and asks if they are free, to which we reply, by all means have them.

The old woman then proceeds to ask me if she can sit next to me, strange but I say, hey no worries.

Now where we were sitting was at the end of this seat, there was Barking Mad (on the edge of the seat) a space of the size of a handbag between us and then me, next to me was a huge stretch of this seat, big enough for at least 3 people, the old woman had been moving closer and closer to me, every 30 secs, which was annoying, but I let it pass as she was OLD.

Then she turns to me and asks me, can you move up please as I want to get another one on here.

To which I kindly reply, erm NO, there are 2 free chairs there use those, she then says, but we don?t like those chairs, my reply was, but that ain?t my problem, tough, I?m not moving anymore (the fact that I couldn?t also was a factor).

Finally the people on the next table moved and the old couple sat there, not before they shifted all the dirty crockery off their table on to ours, the cheeky sods, and to top it off, the old woman kept piling it all in front of me, to which I then flipped and told her I do not want them in front of me, so move them and piled them across the table away from me.

Just how rude was this woman going to get, she then started muttering under her breath about us. To which I replied, you may be old, but you have to earn respect, and you don?t get everything in life you want just because you?re old and you think you deserve it.

Now I ain?t apologising for this. .

After they had their drink (cup of tea only) they left still mumbling, but we did notice that this woman had wee?d herself, on the seat, I am just grateful she moved before she did this.

I just can?t believe she wanted me to squash up for her and how rude she was. I normally think that?s someone?s nan etc, so be nice, but no way not today, she just pushed it too far.

I had one old dear say that ,You shouldn't bring them out in this", (slight drizzle and dd aged 3 was happy as larry in a shopping trolley!", i completely lost it and started shouting at her about not having a cow in my garden and needing milk and was it pension day!!!!

lol angeliz. i have been told off for taking my dd's out in the rain. they are always well wrpaped up and under raincovers umbrellas anyway.

sandyballs, EARGH!!!!!!! (licking episode!!)

Don't you always find that it's the geriatric (sp?) old gits that are rude and thinks the world owes them a favor.

old folk sometimes push things too far. i know they are sometimes ill but this woman was not alone and unless her husband was ill too he should have stopped her, or at least explained and helped her. when i was pg i was ginormous from day 1 and obviously pg and using public transport (usually trains) was a nightmare. the only people who were polite enough and helpful enough to give up their seat for me were the teen boys (their mothers should be proud) the last were the pensioners - men and women alike. they just ignored me and would sit with their bloody bags on their laps for the whole hours journey. also, i pay £12 for the journey and they get it for 50p! also i dont think they should get it for that price on what is obviously a commuter train and packed.

sorry got carried away

have to say the young business men of welwyn town are the ones that help me carry the buggy up the steps over the train bridge. never the women. even had an elderly gent in his 60's offering to help, i declined his offer in case he got hurt.

Unfortuently I had to go to a funeral when I was 39 weeks with dd. No one at the crematorium gave their seat up for me. I ended up having to sit on the floor half way though the service and still no one gave their seat up!!!!

I don't think Crazy Lady behaved at all badly, but I would like more awareness of how badly affected old people's behaviour can be by the various illnesses of old age, not just Alzheimers. I agree with whoever said sometimes Old People use their status as seniors to take the piss, but I think there is such a low level of knowledge about illness in old age, that sometimes we can assume that someone is just being insufferably rude when in fact they are displaying symptoms. (Although of course, often it is just insufferable rudeness!)

It isn?t always obvious that someone old is in the beginning stages of an illness, and whoever so compassionately said they shouldn?t be out on their own, that assumes that they?ve been diagnosed and have family and social services support. There are thousands of old people who live alone in this country, who have no one visiting them at all, family or otherwise, if they didn?t go out to buy food by themselves, they?d starve.

And sorry, but sometimes it takes qualified doctors four or five years to diagnose an illness, I think it?s highly unlikely that a lay person would be able to diagnose good health on one trip. And perhaps I?ve got no sense of humour, but I just haven?t grasped why someone whose faculties have failed to the extent that they are pissing themselves in public, should be a figure of mirth rather than compassion.

I was in labour in DD2 in the train home from Great ormond Street after an appointment for DS, I was having contractions every 10 minutes, puffing and breathing through each one, and DH had to ask someone to give their seat up as noone was going to.

Give Crazylady some credit - I think she can distinguish between someone who is rude and someone who is ill and deserves tolerance and understanding.

IME the vast majority of old people are lovely and well mannered, and friendly towards my children, but it is interesting that the one or two bad experiences of rudeness I can recount have been with older people. I haven't a clue why this should be, and have racked my brain to try and think of comparable situations with younger people.....the only rudeness I have encountered with younger people tends to be inconsiderate driving rather than face to face confrontation / rude remarks.

I've had a miserable git (older person) remark loudly "Its like a blooming menagerie in here" when my 2 kids were both crying simultaneously...(couple of months ago)

A couple of weeks ago, Dh was in a queue for some food and asked waitress to speed up dd's order "To keep her quiet", and person behind him in the queue (older [person) said with nasty hard look in her eyes and a tut " I know what you mean". Dh thinks everybody is lovely and wouldn't think someone was rude unless they shat on his head, so she must have been pretty aggressive for him to take offence.

My theory is that a tiny minority of older people may think that they can 'pull rank' on the younger generation....

But Handlemecarefully that's the point - you can't always distinguish whether someone's ill or rude. If even doctors can't do it, why should we assume that we can?

Meiouw: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know MP, I was very p**sed off as you can imagine. I was only 33 weeks, had a small bump, but you could see I was pregnant.

I wasnt really laughing at her pee'ing herself, as my gran used to all the time and my friend if she laughs too much pee's herself all the time where ever she is and she's only 34, she has a very weak bladder.

I was laughing as she had been sooo rude and angered me, that it made light of the situation, and possibly my thinking revenge is sweet for her being so rude.

My mother is 73 and not ill yet (touch wood), but she would have been appauled at this behaviour, in fact I am off there now, so I will post later her comments.

No I'm not a doctor and cant diagnosis illnesses, but she didnt seem ill, her husband was just as bad as he was moving the dirty stuff on to our table too, he was just as bad. Especially as they had a table to same size as ours, there was NO reason whatsoever to move it off, just move it across.

I have text'd Barking and she will be on later to tell her the same as me, RUDE Old Lady, plain and simple.

I find laughing and saying "keep yer knickers on" to them makes them disproportionately incensed [grin}

Hi - I can vouch for the fact that this old lady was just plain and simply rude - I was literally hanging off the end of the seating with my bag and then CL next to it. This lady was trying to shove her along so she and her dh could sit down in front of the tabel despite the fact that we were still eating/drinking. Our table was small and round and the table they moved to was a rectangular and larger so she just decided to keep on piling the plates etc in front of CL - the first of which CL put on the tray still on our table and the old lady just kept putting htem in front of her. I seriously dont think she was ill - just seemed to be someone who tried it on every step of the way. And if you think CL and I are horrid for spotting the wet patch you should have heard the restaurant staff laugh! and the other old couple who went to sit there.

I sometimes cant believe how rude people can be. I think that some people just dont take the time to consider others at all. And that goes for all ages. I think this says a lot.

I remember that story at the time. Shocking stuff.

Oh well, we'd better all keep doing our pelvic floors.

you always get those sorts in McDonalds crazylady. Try somewhere a bit more upmarket next time, else you could always just shove the rubbish in the bin

think there is a difference between sticking up for yourself in the face of rudeness

and resorting to digs at people's infirmities.

Sorry - sympathise with the rudeness bit, but not with the wetness bit.

Spudulike?

no was thinking more of little chef

Oh yes fio, they have real plates there don't they, and you get the Daily Mail for free which is a very upmarket paper

well yes, that is true also. makes me larf they give yu little chef vouchers in the daily mail, how weird