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The Breakfast Club

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LilyLangtrey · 11/10/2020 12:44

Good afternoon, Clunkers!

Welcome to the Breakfast Club where the kettle is permanently on, the drinks flow and the snacks are both self-replenishing and calorie-free.

We start each day with a look at history and a tribute to a brave or inspiring woman. Mostly though, we just chat randomly about current affairs, recipes, life in lockdown, literature, music and anything else that comes into our heads.

Veteran Clunkers welcome. Anyone else who wants to join in the chat - sense of humour essential! - welcome.

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AnneKipanki · 15/10/2020 08:38

Thanks for the OTD Lily . I started watching Chernobyl last night. I think Gorbachev was mentioned in that .

BigGreenOlives · 15/10/2020 08:52

It was a bit too explicit for me to be honest. Have a look at the work from that period of hers and see what you think.

BigGreenOlives · 15/10/2020 08:57

Here’s a link. Some images are not appropriate in front of children.

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 09:03

Morning Clunkers. There has been a slight delay in the kitchens. Cam's burly builders came in looking for builders tea and they're sat with the butlers sharing a-hem jokes and breakfast bagels.

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yellowspanner · 15/10/2020 09:09

Good morning Clunkers and thanks for the OTD Lily.
I have never heard of Elizabeth either. It is really interesting how many brave and inspiring women are overlooked by history. Even those considered villains hardly get a look in.
You are changing all that slowly but surely.
It is cold here so I am going to curl up with a support kitten in a comfy chair on the sheltered East Terrace, read the papers and look forward to the butlers serving breakfast.

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 09:15

Our speciality coffee has a new look. PhwoarDom popped in and altered the computer settings on the coffee machine late last night. I do hope Nelly approves.

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AnneKipanki · 15/10/2020 09:17

Fantastic @TracysShoulder.
I will have a look @BigGreenOlives, thanks.

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 09:31

Does dizzy have to stay inside at first Lily? Would he make a run for home do you think if he escaped?

Thank you for OTDs. I had to look up the Norfolk Island effect. Every day is a school day in the BC. Brave women changing our view of the World.

MoreHippoThanPenguin · 15/10/2020 09:36

Poor Elizabeth being evacuated with small children and believing her husband dead for six month. And still doing such amazing work, what an inspiration!

I have so much work to do today. I might disappear into a corner of the library with my laptop.

Is that pancakes with bacon Tracy? That looks absolutely delicious! I will come back for some after I have managed to make a start so I know what I am doing. I think I will bring a coffee to get me going.

< disappears with laptop and a big coffee >

Gramgram · 15/10/2020 09:44

Morning Clunkers, cold here and we've already been shopping.

Thank you for the OTD and the breakfast, certainly needed it after the shopping. Off to hang the washing out.

Take care.

thegcatsmother · 15/10/2020 09:55

Interesting article by AEP in the DT yesterday. Will post it later. Fissure between France and Germany over the fishing negotiations in the Brexit deal.

AnneKipanki · 15/10/2020 09:56

All of the images , @BigGreenOlives !

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 10:03

Hippo, yes it's an American breakfast. I would need lashings of maple syrup with that. Grin

BakedCam · 15/10/2020 10:41

@TracysShoulder

Our speciality coffee has a new look. PhwoarDom popped in and altered the computer settings on the coffee machine late last night. I do hope Nelly approves.
PhwoarDom can pop in on me anytime.
BakedCam · 15/10/2020 10:45

@TracysShoulder

Morning Clunkers. There has been a slight delay in the kitchens. Cam's burly builders came in looking for builders tea and they're sat with the butlers sharing a-hem jokes and breakfast bagels.

Have they now? The cheeky little tykes. I have located them in the smoke shack. I need my interior doors hung back up. It is freezing. All the heat is going nowhere, fast.

They have used my office desk as a trestle table so am now on a bookcase with my legs straddled.

Nelllyyy · 15/10/2020 10:53

@TracysShoulder

Our speciality coffee has a new look. PhwoarDom popped in and altered the computer settings on the coffee machine late last night. I do hope Nelly approves.
2@TracysShoulder 😁😁😁😁❤️❤️❤️👍🏻

Very impressed. 😁❤️👍🏻

thegcatsmother · 15/10/2020 11:05

Macron has overplayed his hand by holding Brexit to ransom over fish

The French president must know that his claims over British waters are far weaker than he pretends
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
14 October 2020 • 6:36pm
Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Emmanuel Macron has walked into a Brexit trap. Even those most sympathetic to the EU can see that his maximalist claims on sovereign British waters amount to indefensible overreach and "cakeism".

It is self-evidently incoherent for Paris to argue that everything changes for Britain after withdrawal - to the point of aggressive ‘cumulation’ rules on car parts, and the skinniest of access for services - while at the same time insisting that Britain must remain a prisoner of the Common Fisheries Policy.

There is a whiff of neo-imperial coercion in Mr Macron’s threat to block a Brexit trade deal unless the UK gives way on this emotive issue, and his petulant diplomacy is clearly causing irritation at the Kanzleramt.

The coverage in the German press over recent days has been strikingly neutral or even friendly to the British point of view.

The Handelsblatt asks how he can expect to perpetuate a regime in which French trawlers are entitled to 84pc of the catch off Cornwall while Cornish fishermen are left with just 9pc. It marvelled at a relationship where European boats can come to within six nautical miles of the British coast while British boats must abide by the EU’s 12-mile rule.

Chancellor Angela Merkel said pointedly last week that the recent accord between the UK and Norway on fishing was a sign of Britain’s “constructive” approach, and implies that “agreements can be found”.

“In private, the Germans are very worried,” said Charles Grant from the Centre for European Reform. “Macron is going to come under intense pressure to give ground, but he is so arrogant and bloody-minded that he may just go it alone as did over the 6-month Brexit extension.”

The talk en coulisse is that Mr Macron actively wants to scupper a deal, calculating that a chaotic smash-up will force the UK back to the table quickly and on abject terms. But to take such a gamble at a delicate moment for the eurozone economy is to play with fire.

Fishing is the one issue in the traumatic saga of Brexit where Britain is seen to hold the high ground and where the EU knows that it is in an awkward position. That is not least because the CFP itself is a byword for wanton ecological abuse - “not fit for purpose” in the words of the Scottish Fishermen’s Federation.

The more that fisheries become the emotional focus of the final negotiating showdown, the more it strengthens Boris Johnson’s hand. It alters the political chemistry of the post-Brexit blame game if the talks collapse, and therefore makes his threat to walk away and go ‘Australian’ that much more credible.

Ministers from several EU states cajoled France and the coalition of fishing states to give ground at a meeting in Brussels this week. Michel Barnier has been pleading for more negotiating leeway from his masters to break the impasse, so far to no avail.

The Élysée line is that France will not negotiate “like carpet merchants” over the future of French trawlermen.

Enforcer Clement Beaune said acceptance of EU quota demands was the “sine qua non” for British access to the EU’s single market.

This démarche would be more credible if the EU was in fact offering much access beyond what is already guaranteed under World Trade Organisation law, and if the EU itself was not seeking reciprocal access to UK markets in order to protect its £95bn annual bilateral trade surplus. That includes £48bn of car exports and £20bn of farm goods that would be hit by prohibitive tariffs without a deal.

A compromise is there for the taking. Britain no longer has a fishing fleet large enough to trawl its own waters. Most of the North Sea catch caught by boats of all nationalities and processed in Grimsby is exported to the EU.

What the Government wants is a recognition of sovereignty, not a ban on French trawlers. It has proposed a three-year transition with annual quotas.

“To let this collapse over mackerel would be absurd. Everybody knows there is scope for a deal and that is what will happen,” said Andrew Duff, a veteran MEP and president of the Spinelli Group in Brussels.

Mr Duff said the ritual brinkmanship by both sides should be taken with heaps of salt. Britain has already agreed quietly - and shrewdly - to an independent regulator for state aid.

The EU has insisted on this level-playing field guarantee to head off what it imagines to be a Singapore on the Thames. In reality it may turn back against the EU itself, since France, Germany, and Italy are the chief abusers of state aid. The UK would be able to take them to task in the post-Brexit joint committee, and ultimately in the appeal tribunal.

My own view is that the EU cannot afford the risk of no deal, given the interlinked supply-chains and the role of London as Europe’s banker.

The Continent faces a roaring second wave of Covid-19 and the prospect of a double-dip recession in a string of states, threatening to expose yet again the simmering pathologies of the eurozone.

The European Central Bank has allowed Euroland to slide into a deflationary vicious circle. It has no tools left beyond a rain dance on negative rates.

The sovereign-bank ‘doom-loop’ of 2012 is back with a vengeance as lenders gobble up the massive Covid issuance of near insolvent governments.

The further the ECB goes with bond purchases, the closer it gets to the political limit for a central bank answering to confederate states split into creditor and debtor blocs. Yet if the ECB stops buying the system blows up.

The €750bn recovery fund is a red herring. Italy and other Club Med states refuse to touch the loan component because of Troika-like conditions. The money will not kick in until late 2021 and will then be spread across the EU until 2026.

It may be of interest to those fascinated by the institutional architecture of the EU - it is a new Brussels slush fund, after all - but it has no economic relevance in the time-frame that will soon shape Europe’s political future.

Boris Johnson is not alone in facing near revolt over pandemic policies. Mr Macron’s test and trace scheme has been panned by the French media as a fiasco, and Marseilles is at war with Paris. France has also been one of Europe’s worst hit countries in the pandemic.

France was one of the harder-hit economies in the second quarter of 2020

Holland’s Mark Rutte has made such a mess of his response that the Dutch are back to testing only those at high risk. He has been diminished by his campaign against masks - now reversed - and has been forced into semi-lockdown by exploding cases.

Political patience is running low across Europe. The region is being left behind in jobless stagnation as China and the US decouple and run away with the 2020s.

If Brexit talks unravel over fish, EU leaders would have to explain to the world why they insisted on such terms and what it is about Europe’s decision-making that it cannot reach a minimalist trade deal with its close neighbour.

They would have to explain to their own struggling farmers, car-makers, and small firms why they have just been hit with a fresh and unnecessary hammer blow.

It would be a hard political sell for a caste of Europe's leaders already in trouble. Mr Macron must know that his hand is weaker than he pretends.

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 11:11

Grin Grin Grin
I hope it's not a very wide bookcase Cam. Grin

It was time for a change Nelly and your suggestion is in keeping with the ethos of the BC. Our treble clef coffee was a throw back to a musical theme we had in our old place. Smile

TracysShoulder · 15/10/2020 11:14

Great article gcat. I read it earlier at your suggestion. Cue weeks of quarrelling between them all now.

Nelllyyy · 15/10/2020 11:23

Morning Clunkers,

@TracysShoulder, that breakfast looks sooo good and the coffee, well what can I say. 😍

@LilyLangtrey, once again thank you for my history lesson. ❤️

@Soapy, hope your builders are behaving and doing more work than drinking tea. 😁

Today is my mum and dads wedding anniversary, they would have been married 61 years, I spoke to my dad this morning, he has no idea who I was/am, it was very hard but at least we “spoke” he ending up cutting the call off, I rang back, the Carer said he was now asleep.

I can take comfort, that we had a family get together for their 60th, it was soon after this that my mum healths rapidly went down hill, this was due to a fall, which changed her personality dramatically and she started to come out with the worst swear words you can imagine.

Breakfast for me was avocado on seeded bread toast and 2 cups of tea.

Bed changed, clean bedding put on, I love fighting with the duvet and cover. 😁

I popped to our local shop this morning, it is just up the road, they are so nosey, they want to know the ins and outs of a ducks backside. 🥴

Daughter turned up at 9am, after dropping the grandkids off at school, we went for a slow walk and talk, we spoke about how life has changed, left us both feeling sad, we hugged, tears were shed, but then we pulled ourselves together and talked about more happier times and managed to finally smile and laugh.

@BakedCam, that has made me 😂 you straddled over a bookcase. 😁

Hope Mr Bake is recovering well.👍🏻

Nelllyyy · 15/10/2020 11:31

@BigGreenOlives

Here’s a link. Some images are not appropriate in front of children.
I laughed so much at the mattress one. 😂😂

Those photos have certainly cheered me up. 😁

I have no idea what tier I am in.

yellowspanner · 15/10/2020 11:42

Thanks for the article Gcats. Very interesting. I had no idea that we had quietly agreed to independent arbitration about state aid. I suspect we will ignore it and support our emerging tec industries anyway.

Baked, please do NOT give us any more information about your shinanickins (?) on a bookcase with your legs straddled. It is too much at this time of the morning.

MissSarahThane · 15/10/2020 12:13

Good afternoon all.

If anyone's looking for something to brighten their lunch hour, or a new pin up for the bar, may I offer this?

It's on the front page of today's DT. Kudos to the picture editor. So often they seem to choose the most unflattering picture they can find, or one that's months or years out of date.

(It's the glasses, I think. And those few silver threads. A very professorial look.)

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meercat23 · 15/10/2020 12:28

I was just going to say Morning all but I see I am later than I thought. I have been for a walk in the park this morning. That is a much more momentous statement than it sounds as my compromised mobility got much worse during lockdown and I have been avoiding walking as much as possible.

thecatsmother Interesting piece. I think Macron has backed himself into a corner. He made a promise to the French fishing unions that nothing will change but if he doesn't reach a compromise they will end up with very few legal rights.

NessalovesSmithy · 15/10/2020 12:30

Dishy Rishi's patch is very close to me. He is considered a good egg locally, wrote to all the local businesses who went out of their way during the first COVID wave. The greengrocer I use has got his letter framed on the wall. Hugely supportive and on hand despite his Westminster commitments.

Local rag.

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