lilly, i would agree with you apart from one thing, this woman solicited our responses on the other thread. I think twig was hoping for a quick survey type response, but i certainly can't keep my opinions to myself re something like this as i can imagine the hurt caused (imagine the hurst, if someone took DP away from me and DD, and KNOW about the hurt to the wife and children as it happend to my parents, in this instance i would defend my father to the ends of the earth and it is fair to say that everyones circumstances are different but this woman tries to justify her actions and take the fecking moral high ground, almost blaming her DPs ex wife FFS and i really think that she doesnt recognise that she might be in the slightest bit wrong)