Netmums have sold out...

[hunkermunker]

See here

[disappointed]

I have been a member of netmums for an age, but came off bcs of the nestle funding. I think netmums have lost their marbles tbh. Any thread mentioning the sponsorship of this evil company is deleted within minutes. There is one discussion thread, tucked well out of the way, that is 'allowed' (netmums have a LOT of rules - very authoritarian). What Siobhan says about there being a lot of vulnerable women on the site is true though - the site was an inspired idea and has helped many desperately vulnerable women. But it is repulsive to accept funding - for WHATEVER REASON - from an evil company that is still aggressively and deviously promoting their products in the third world, which directly results in myriad infant deaths. Maybe poor black babies aren't as important as rich white babies I guess.

Thanks for the welcome girls. Its taking me a bit of time to negotiate the site but I'll get used to it.

I think I'm gonna like it here!

Shame about Netmums, I made some good friends, but since this Nestle business I have also seen a few people for what they really are. What an eye-opener. Which I suppose is a blessing in disguise. The people I am most disappointed in are the Mods. I hope they can sleep at night. Its blood money they are getting.

hello ! welcome to mumsnet

sure you'll love it here !

Matilda and Tinymum, you'll fit right in here, I'm sure! Welcome to MN

thank you Clara

Morning ex-netmummers. How are finding Mumsnet. Bit different, eh? ;-)

Well believe it or not, Matilda is not my real name either. Nor the one I had on netmums! I slip about.......

LoveAngel - yeah BIT different LOL

Hey I'm finding this Mumsnet thing quite liberating!!! You are allowed to swear! Gosh! And no massive tickers! Fantastic!! LOL

LOL@tinymum

Ah, I do miss the cosy coffeehouse chats. But it IS nice to be able to say fuck once in a while.

oh GRRRR to tickers!!!! They are awful....

And for some, I feel obliged to pass comment on, irrespective of whether its a nice comment or a not very nice one.......so i steer clear as much as possible

I had a reply from netmums finally.

Well, I liked the tickers! make a space, I'm going to be very GOOD here...

Netmums was set up to support vulnerable women, particularly women who were suffering with post-natal depression: either bcs of physical causes (brain chemistry fucked) or bcs of the massive shock of giving birth - not just the actual torture chamber of birth (offical torture! all those medics standing around watching you being tortured, even torturing you themselves...) but the massive upheaval to your life once you're a mother. Siobhan set it up bcs she had a horrific time after the birth of her first (I think?) and didn't want other women to go through the hell she did; or she wanted to provide something that would alleviate the hell at least. Fantastic idea, and it worked!

So many women on there are extremely vulnerable for so many reasons - not all, but most. So netmums was a safe corner in the world, where they could be themselves and not be criticised. How it worked is beyond me - women aren't normally very nice to eachother. But it did work, and I agree with her that it saves lives as well as minds.

The tickers to me are people putting their stamp on their corner - somewhere they can be recognised for being a mother, and not just recognised, but valued - an unusual thing in our culture, which doesn't value mothering ONE BIT.

So I liked the tickers. And all the kindness and caring (mostly! Things get out of hand sometimes, but considering it is a MASSIVE site, it astonishes me that it hasn't decended into chaos long before now).

So lay off the tickers.

Though I agree, it is very nice to be able to say fuck and wanker sometimes. For all the good of the site (immeasurable) there had to be some bad - and the bad was pretty bad LOL.

imho of course (that's wink not wank]

Matilda, I agree with lots of what you've said. I didn't leave netmums because I didn't like the site. It was a lifesaver to me when I had PND and has been a daily habit of mine ever since. I loved it. The Nestle thing surprised and annoyed me, though, and the attitudes of a lot of the usersregarfing the issue pissed me off. I am disappointed in Siobhan more than anything else. But that doesn't mean I think netmums is a crap website. I still miss it :-(

xxxx

regarding, sorry. Damn my typing!

Don't worry about your fucking typing LoveAngel.

How bloody fucking childish I am eh? ROFL

Each to their own.

I cant stand tickers. Hence I have always ended up posting more on MN anyway.

I agree also with alot of what you have said Matilda.

However I don't think there was anything particulaly special about Netmums that made it a super-friendly site. It was just heavily edited by the mods. I have seen some absolutely ghastly behaviour on there, but the mods swoop in pretty quickly and delete everything. Which in alot of cases is called for, but in some cases it really isn't, and does make people less likely to be honest because they know their thread will be pulled.

I am not fond of tickers myself, especially the massive flashing ones and I'm not sure posting pictures of your children on line is a good idea but each to their own!

Like LoveAngel, I didn't leave because I didn't like the site, it was because of the Nestle advertising, the Mods feeble justifications for it and the attitudes of some of the women on there in the aftermath which surprised me and left a nasty taste.

Oh well, such is life.

'feeble' is the word tinymum.

I think I got a bit institutionalised on there tbh LOL - the mods are so controlling! How can you undermine whole hoards of women? They managed it.

Hi guys. I've been a mumsnet member for years but haven't posted here in a very long time. I was a member of this site before I joined netmums. I've heard a lot of rumours about a lot of anti netmums feeling going on here so thought I'd come see.

Hi, i have just joined mumsnet after being on netmums for a few years but latley i feel its, well, SHITE.
I am soooooo glad to be able to swear properly, instead of all this "fluffy bunnies" crap.
;)
Tbh, on net mums, you haveto be like a stepford wife, do not think outside the box, do not speak outside the box, do not swear, do not have a fuckin brain of your own.
Lately there has been so much pathetic nonsense on there that i have given up,
oh, and it reeks of nepotism.

So, i am here, and happy to be here!!

But netmums is mainly for support isn't it? There are a lot of vulnerable people there looking for help. It's not a chat room. Surely it's a good thing the two forums are so different? I'm sure there's a fair few people who use both for different reasons.

Yes it is mainly for support, but you get that rammed down your throat every day! If you happen to not actually agree with the OP then you are shot down in flames and they shout "support not criticism", which is ok, but your often not actually criticising, just not agreeing!
Then you get accused of not being supportive, and then the mods lock/delete the post, and it achieves nothing!
I cant do with being told what to say, think etc, and dont see why i should be gagged just because my views differ from those of others. Doesn't mean i'm right or wrong, just different!

have just popped over to de register, noticed anita roddick is a patron. someone else who sold out.