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Boys should be encouraged to sleep with their arms out of the covers to prevent masturbation......

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northerner · 07/02/2007 09:53

According to a book called Mothers and Sons I got of Amazon. Started reading it last night and it is complete and utter tosh.

Do not buy it.

Also, a mother should not ever get undressed or go to teh loo in the presence of her young son as they will be more likely to 'suffer' from homosexuality when older.

WTF?

I was laughing out loud at how shit it is. Wonder if anyone takes it seriously?

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Bucketsofdynomite · 07/02/2007 10:51

These are the publishers, explains a lot. Seriously evangelical.

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northerner · 07/02/2007 10:53

Am at work atm, but will read more tonight and post back.

Then I'll burn it.

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Caligula · 07/02/2007 10:54

northerner, do a review of it.

Lots of fundamentalist christian loonies believe this sort of crap. Particularly in the bible belt.

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northerner · 07/02/2007 10:56

Yes, will do a review at home tonight.

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dejags · 07/02/2007 10:57

Well if that's the case, my DS's are both going to be gay (not that I'd care).

I regularly (like everyday) rub their backs and even more regularly walk around with no clothes on.

DS's are 2 & 5

sounds like it's written from the depths of somebody's backside if you ask me.

paulaplumpbottom · 07/02/2007 11:02

What a load of rubbish

harpsichordcarrier · 07/02/2007 11:07

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my ex's mother was an evangelical Christian and had a collection of books like this.
I used to read them and some of them were quite quite shocking. One of them - a marriage manual - told a story of a young married couple who were having problems. the wife was having difficulty in submitting to her husband in accordance with the bible's teaching, and the husband was responding by hitting her. the author (a preacher and pastor of a UK evangelical church) said this was an understandable reaction, and that the solution was that the wife should learn to submit and not cause frustration, but if she did she should expect her husband to enforce God's authority by force.

Caligula · 07/02/2007 11:10

Honestly, the media's obsessed with Islamic fundamentalism, but the Christian fundamentalists of the bible belt are at least as barking in their insane ideas.

paulaplumpbottom · 07/02/2007 11:15

Harpsichord Evangelical Churches would never support the husband in that sort of situation. Most certainly wouldn't support the views of the book mentioned by the OP either.

Astrophe · 07/02/2007 11:19

ummm. Can I just say...the ideas in the book are clearly rediculous. And to sugest that a woman deserves to be hit by her husband is terrible and inexcusable. I totally agree.

I am an evangelical Christian. A Evangelical Christian is one who believes the Bible is The Truth, and is God's revelation of the truth to Mankind, as opposed to being a metaphor or fable.

I know what you're saying - there are some wacky people out there, some call themselves christians and this is confusing for everyone. But just please be careful with the terms you use.

harpsichordcarrier · 07/02/2007 11:22

Well I read the book and it was written by a leader of an evangelical church.
he was supporting that view, in fact that was the advice he was giving. So in this particular case I think you are incorrect ppb .
Believe you m, it stuck in my mind very very clearly.

Caligula · 07/02/2007 11:23

They would if they were in the bible belt, PPB.

MerryMarigold · 07/02/2007 11:24

oh dear. i take a bath with my 14mo (months, not years!) in the bathroom and he pushes my nipples 'cos he thinks they are buttons. It is uncomfortable! Am beginning to banish him to his room during my bath, the end of a lovely era though.

MerryMarigold · 07/02/2007 11:31

oh, and ps. (i may as well squish this thread), i would call myself an evangelical christian, but would definitely not buy into the advice in the OP. there are funny ideas out there from may different viewpoints, you have to pick carefully!

homemama · 07/02/2007 11:33

Oh dear, this morning we were having the bathroom tiled and I said to DS(2), Mummy will just have a wee then we'll go out. He then replies loudly in front of the two tilers, Don't you need to do a big poo like yesterday, Mummy?

What have I done to him?

Temped to buy the book just for the shock value but don't want to fund scary organisations.

homemama · 07/02/2007 11:44

Oh and the subject of masturbation and sexual confidence are one of my parenting 'bees in my bonnet' thingys.

I've told DH we'll be telling both DS and DD nice and early that it's all perfectly nice and natural and nothing to be ashamed of.

DH keeps saying he's sure they'll discover it all by themselves sooner or later
but I don't want them growing up with the same hang-ups he did.

Browny · 07/02/2007 11:48

Why don't you be 'the first person to review this book', that'll hopefully prevent someone else wasting their hard earned money on it.... very strange some people's views.

paulaplumpbottom · 07/02/2007 12:43

Caligula thats ridiculous. Have you been to a church in the Bible Belt? Obviously not. Its ridiculous to suggest that they support this sort of thing. I think you know this.

maretta · 07/02/2007 12:59

Did you notice that you can get a second hand copy for 4p. At least that means most people who've read it are desperate to get rid of it.

Aloha · 07/02/2007 13:02

review it on Amazon and warn people

hermykne · 07/02/2007 13:14

jesus what year was it published?

Caligula · 07/02/2007 13:53

Why is it ridiculous?

This book was not published in the fifties it was published now.

And every few years there are a bunch of nutters who surface from bible belt territory with a new book about how to raise children by beating them because that's how Jesus wants it.

These people exist. They're out there. And they come from the bible belt. (Which isn't to say that everyone in the bb is nuts, but please let's not pretend there isn't a lunatic fringe there, just as there's a lunatic fringe in Islam. My point was that the Western media is very keen on focussing on the loony fringe in Islam as if it is mainstream, while ignoring the loony fringe in christianity, which is every bit as loony imo. Imagine christians being routinely portrayed as bb nutters. That's what it's like for muslims. That's all I'm saying. Bit of a diversion, I know.)

Rhubarb · 07/02/2007 13:55

Fair point.

I know lots of loony christians. You get 'em everywhere though. Christianity is just a cover for their lunacy, they'd be just as loony without it.

edam · 07/02/2007 14:00

LOL at the idea of loonies seeking cover in Christianity. Think you may be right, though!

DominiConnor · 07/02/2007 14:01

Actually, I'm all for Christians doing this stuff. My understanding of sperm production is that it needs to be fresh, since unlike eggs it is made on demand.
Humans masturbate at the prospect of sex, and it appaears that this has the effect of getting rid of old duds, and loading up with fresh dynamic sperm, keen to get out there and fertilise something.
If masterbation was really so bad, then we'd have evolved not to do it.
But of course the supsersitious fools who readf this crap typically don't believe in evolution either.

Thus if they succeed in their ambition, they are probably reducing the number of kids their sons will father, and thus improving the human gene pool by reducing the number of fools in it.

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