So now Sainsbury's are holding TWO silences this weekend

[Enid]

one on Saturday and one on Sunday

am I alone in finding these enforced silences irritating and annoying?

I was cross when they suddenly went up to 2 minutes - somehow that is sooooooo much more reverent than 1 minute, er, not.

But now to have them on both weekend days. Makes me [hmmm]

Only if you let it cod. To me, 4 minutes, one weekend a year will NEVER be enough to honour those who gave up their lives for & my family

god you are slightly unhinged wiht fervour on thsi topic

think dhs hobby is getting to you
how odd to haev a hobby of cellocting dead mens helmets

Oh yes because it's much more constructive to be unhinged about City Shorts and Lip Gloss.

[inappropriate smirk] @ 'collecting dead mens helmets'

i don't think it's odd - better someone collects them, it's nice to see someone so passionate about it lemmy collects loads of ww2 stuff but probably the less said about that the better

i did avoid managing to put a

Not odd at all, just because he is interested in more than football & supping pints every weekend? His grandfather flew bombers in WWII, he is interested in the life he led, ehat he did, what he went thru.

Not 'getting to me' at all. What gets to me is the me me me generation who doesn't give a shit about what previous generations went through & scarificed for them so the could have it all.

It's not because it's his hobby either, I had and had a great respect for the World Wars & the soldiers before it became his hobby!

and yes ff!

you can give as hit adn not do TWO tow minute silences

Thank you southeastastra, sad that a man can't honour what his grandfather (deceased) did for him & us without being ridiculed (sp).

Better he collects stamps, because they aren't tangible of 2 World Wars? (not all of them, anyway)

I have no problem taking a few minutes out of my day to remember those who died in wartime - and would say I do from time to time throughout the year, not just on 11th November BUT I deeply resent when I am out shopping being told, "You will now stand still and respectfully recall their sacrifice for 2 minutes" when in the middle of Sainsburys, with frozen food melting in my trolley, a wriggly 3 year old who won't keep still or quiet, and the time ticking away with a tight schedule of things to do in front of me.

How is it, when I was a child, the 2 minutes silence was on the nearest Sunday to 11th November when we were all already sitting in front of the TV watching the parade and laying of wreaths in London, not also at 11 am on the actual day of the Armistice?

This thread is shameful.

Yes, cod I know. But from the tone and the posts, some don't seem to give a shit. I mean if they don't want to do it, they don't have to. It's not like somebody will knock on their door and say do it, is it? I just don't understand when people moan about something that is totally voluntary.

it hink tis the presciptiove thing about it
like jon snow saying he wont eb TOLD to wear a poppy
he will choose to

But DumbledoresGirl, You know when it will be...can you not alter your day to avoid it? Not too much to ask is it?

I have only been in Oz for 4 months, have I missed the remembrance police being at Sainsbury's to inforce that everyone does the silence?

Surely if you feel that strongly you will go about your day, not do the silence, as a statement of not being dictated to?

Sandcastles - itis totally voluntary in the privacy of your home, but it is somewhat enforced when you are out and about in the shops and everyone else comes to a halt.

And people wonder why a lot of youngsters these days have no respect.

Maybe because the adults in their lives are a bit low on it themselves.

Shame on you who are complaining.

my kids FREAKILY often stayed quiet even when titych tiny

Sandcastles - you are right, I should work out my schedule better to avoid it. Like, right now, I am not feeling well and want to avoid shopping today but now that I have been told the silence will take place tomorrow, I am feeling I am going to have to go out today to avoid the situation tomorrow.

I do not mean disrespect - I have family who died in the wars too - but I cannot stand being dictated to. I think that is why we fought the second world war, isn't it?

we arent all compainign
i just think ONE is SO much more dramatic adn everyone knwos that thast IT, the ONE

exactly cod...but who is saying you HAVE to do it? Nobody, last time I knew.

I posted examples of why I will do it, whatever I am doing, me dh & dd will honour both of them. for dh'd Grandfather, and those who battled with him. I posted those links to try & enlighten. To have people undertsnd why I think 4 minutes in 48 hours will never be enough. Nowhere have I said you have to stop, be quite or else.

But peope should still have respect for the occasion with making out that 4 minutes is some arduous, thankless, compulsary task.

Actually for task, read chore.

"But people should still have respect for the occasion without making out that 4 minutes is some arduous, thankless, compulsary CHORE that needs to be fitted in between haircuts and lunches"

I'm in favour of silence for WW1 and 2 although does seem odd this year when they are on consecutive days. But agree it has been devalued by all the other silences they are now holding - it's for those who gave their lives, not for victims of terrorism who were just caught in the middle of daily life. Their deaths were tragic but the act of remembrance should be for WW1 and 2.

FWIW my grandparents fought in WWII and disapproved of the ceremony at the Cenotaph - they thought, I gather, that it was an opportunity for politicians and military chiefs to grandstand.

Don't forget that it wasn't just men in the services. There were women too, including those behind enemy lines. And people at home, firewatching, for instance. And civilians on the North Atlantic convoys bringing desperately needed food to stop the country being starved into submission. They saw terrible things - you couldn't stop to rescue your fellow sailors if the ship behind you was sunk.

Then only observe the the one silence, 2 minutes on the 11th. The 2 minutes on Remembrance Sunday is for observing the silence at centotaphs and remembrance services.