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So now Sainsbury's are holding TWO silences this weekend

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Enid · 09/11/2006 16:57

one on Saturday and one on Sunday

am I alone in finding these enforced silences irritating and annoying?

I was cross when they suddenly went up to 2 minutes - somehow that is sooooooo much more reverent than 1 minute, er, not.

But now to have them on both weekend days. Makes me [hmmm]

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Sobernow · 09/11/2006 17:43

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southeastastra · 09/11/2006 17:43

also if you're driving do you just stop?

lucy5 · 09/11/2006 17:43

Last year I was in Gibraltar, after the parade [not on remembrance Sunday] I was in Morrisons and they had 2, one for English time and one for Gibraltarian time.

Enid · 09/11/2006 17:44

agree with sobernow

I do observe the silence

but they have them for EVERYTHING now

suprised we didn't have one for Steve Irwin

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beckybrastraps · 09/11/2006 17:45

I don't think we should have one for everything.

I think we should have one for THIS.

beckybrastraps · 09/11/2006 17:47

Was there one for Diana?
What was there to reflect on there?

All I know about that was when my pay was late, a MONTH later, the LEA blamed the delay on "Diana's death" - WTF?

Enid · 09/11/2006 17:47

yes it is laughable that 2 minutes silence is somehow 'better' than one

one minute, on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month

thats it as far as i am concerned

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Enid · 09/11/2006 17:47

lol becky @ blaming it on dianas death

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beckybrastraps · 09/11/2006 17:48

Well, I WAS speechless over that one!

Sobernow · 09/11/2006 17:48

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southeastastra · 09/11/2006 17:49

but that's the point, the 11th hour on the 11th day etc

AlanasMum · 09/11/2006 17:50

lucky its not 11 minutes!

Tommy · 09/11/2006 18:10

agree with Enid - I'll just try and not be in Sainsbury's then - will do it at church on Sunday

HappyMumof2 · 09/11/2006 18:25

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firemaiden · 10/11/2006 07:17

Of all the things to make a fuss about! Is your life really so trivial that you are complaining that an extra minutes silence has been added to remember the war dead? For goodness sake!! Can not believe someone has started a thread moaning about being asked to think about other people for a whole extra minute.

eidsvold · 10/11/2006 07:25

I'm with you firemaiden - I think it is respectful to just take a very minute time out of our very busy lives to say thank you to many young men and not so young who went off to fight ( for whatever reason) and often survived horrible tragedies that we can only begin to imagine so that we can have the right to moan about having silence in their memory.

I have both aussie and brit relies who fought in a variety of theatres and I think it is just respectful to pause and offer a silent thanks for their sacrifice - whether one believes in war or not - to me that is not the point at this time - the point is to remember the sacrifices made and to be thankful.

Blandmum · 10/11/2006 07:36

Dh will be in the city's main rememberance day on Sunday, in his parade ground uniform, as part of the squadron's official representation. I will be very proud of him as he remembers friends of ours who have died.

I think that stopping in the middle of an ordinary, everyday event, ie shopping is in some ways more respectful though, since we are marking the fact that our every day life was kept safe by the sacrifice of others

'These laid the world away; poured out the red
Sweet wine of youth; gave up the years to be
Of work and joy, and that unhoped serene,
That men call age; and those who would have been,
Their sons, they gave, their immortality'

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sandcastles · 10/11/2006 08:08

2 minutes = 1 minute for each WW? Is that too much to ask?

My dh's grandfather flew Wellington Bombers in WWII. The we lucky, he came home. But he hated to atlk of what he saw/did. Many of them don't know alot about his time during WWII as he didn't ever vocalise that much about it.

Sons, brothers, fathers, grandfathers, nephews, cousins, uncles, all went out there all did their bit....mostly willingly, wanting too. Children of 14 signed up. Lied about their ages to get on the front line. Thousands lie in umarked graves, names not known..just 'a soldier' ask any one who has been to Ypre, Passendale, amount of the war cemateries that now are the resting place for man who faught for this country/world. There are soldier who were never given an official resting place, they died, they stayed. No memorial, no one to morne at their graveside, no one to say good bye. All they have is our respect to honour them 2 minute 2 MINUTES of our time, to remember, to say thank you! I am astounded that some see this as too much.

FWIW, it was always 2 minues (or started off as 2 anyway

"In a letter published in the London Evening News on 8 May 1919, an Australian journalist, Edward George Honey, proposed a respectful silence to remember those who had given their lives in the First World War. This was brought to the attention of King George V and on 7 November 1919, the King issued a proclamation which called for a two minute silence"

From Here

sandcastles · 10/11/2006 08:10

"ask any one who has been to Ypres, or Passendale or any of the war cemetaries, about the amount of the graves that now are the resting place for men who faught for this country/world"

(alteration to sentance)

unknownrebelbang · 10/11/2006 08:13

I'm expecting my children to have a silence during school assembly today too.

There have been two silences for a while now, but I'm guessing it's more noticeable this year because Armistice Day is on the Saturday, and Remembrance Sunday is erm Sunday.

Which day is more appropriate, if you only want one?

Whimsy · 10/11/2006 08:21

Well said, sandcastles.

jenkel · 10/11/2006 08:36

I think its a lovely thing to do, to stop and be silent to remember what some people in this country have given up for us. I hope it continues.

sandcastles · 10/11/2006 09:13

Menin Gate

Inside Menin Gate the walls & ceiling is lined with names of the soldiers who battled and lost their lives and were never found

Ypres

Fricour German Cemetery

Tyne cot
See second picture "An Australian Soldier of the Great War - Known unto God" Although this site is dedicated to Australians the cemetery has many soldiers of many races resting there. And the wording on that grave comes up time & time again. Loved ones left with no knowledge of where their men lay. Women & men dying never knowing what happened to their husbands/sons/uncles/fathers/cousins

Tyne Cot again

Fontenay Cemetery

Just a few for you to ponder.

Now tell me 4 minutes in 48 hours is TOO MUCH to remember these & many many others..... And yes, I have been to these and many more places/cemeterie & seen first hand the huge scale of devestation these wars caused. Stood in the trenches, dh has some WWII helmets, with the holes where the soldiers were shot (yes, extreme, but it's his hobby).

Google the names of the links...see for yourselves.

Thanks Whimsy, a bit garbled, but glad I got my point across.

LEST WE FORGET

TheHighwayCod · 10/11/2006 09:15

i think two loses resonance