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Swagger Inn: Thread 91. Just nobody mention the DVD extras, kay? <catsbum>

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MadamedeChevreuse · 08/04/2015 21:12

I dun a fred!

I DUN A FRED!!!!!

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SisterHelenoftheEternalCatchUp · 17/04/2015 11:31
Cinnamoncookie · 17/04/2015 11:32

for Mouse and Toddlermouse. for HV. Just search on MN for 'useless HV'.

Can someone link to the Den of Geek interview ?

Baddz · 17/04/2015 11:33

Right!

That's enough of that sort of talk!
Neither of my kids were potty trained til they were past 3.
Ds1 cracked it in 24 hours.
Ds2 became dry Day and night after 2/3 days.
They will do it when they are ready, not to some odd timeline in some health visitors book!
Do you see teenagers still in nappies? No. It'll happen. Dont worry x
My ds1 didn't really speak properly until he was past 3. And then it was hard to understand until he was about 4.5.
And now? He is nearly 12 and a very eloquent and talkative young man :)
I know it's worrying when your dc don't seen to be keeping up win their peers, but comparing your kids to others is the way madness lies.
You know your dc better than anyone! You were spot on about toddlermouse delaying pre school and I am sure you will continue to make the best and correct decisions for him.
I can understand your feelings.
I feel very low about ds2s health ATM...I don't know why he is always ill :(
It's hard.
But, please, listen to a mother whose ds1 had significant developmental delay...toddlermouse will be fine. Because he has you for a mum x

Baddz · 17/04/2015 11:35

Oh and if it makes you feel better, my parenting skills are crap .)
Ds2 is a veggie but doesn't eat eggs or beans or quorn either!
He lives on fruit, porridge, veg and mashed potatoes!
and cake and sweets
I figure it's a phase....it's been going on a while though!!

LiviaDruscillaAugusta · 17/04/2015 11:35

Mouse The one thing I have learned on MN is that generally, HVs are crappy and make you feel guilty. You are fab Flowers

I can give you some of the more portable "equipment" from the dungeon for next time, if that helps Wink

Enormouse · 17/04/2015 11:37

She's actually the least useless of the useless hvs I've seen. And is a pretty decent one.

I just wish I felt better and could take toddlers issues in my stride. I feel worn out with him though.

LiviaDruscillaAugusta · 17/04/2015 11:39

Mouse The one thing I have learned on MN is that generally, HVs are crappy and make you feel guilty. You are fab Flowers

I can give you some of the more portable "equipment" from the dungeon for next time, if that helps Wink

Enormouse · 17/04/2015 11:39

Thank you all Flowers

Baddz · 17/04/2015 11:42

The toddler years are hard mouse, and that's without added issues like speech delay.
He sounds very bright :)
He will be ok.
And so will you x

ApricotCrush · 17/04/2015 11:48

Oh, that's interesting re Adrian. I haven't listened yet, but it's here:

Geek Syndicate Podcast

He's been working on The Go-Between which is currently in post-production.

To be honest, I think it's a good thing. He wrote 2 epis for S2 and co-wrote 4 more. Epis 5, 7, 9 & 10 were written by others, and I think they were the best of the series.

Thanks for Mouse

Enormouse · 17/04/2015 11:57

This is the little reprobate in question.

Swagger Inn: Thread 91. Just nobody mention the DVD extras, kay? <catsbum>
Baddz · 17/04/2015 11:59

Aaawwwwww......
:)

Enormouse · 17/04/2015 12:12

This will make me want to kill him a bit less. I hope.

SisterHelenoftheEternalCatchUp · 17/04/2015 12:30

He's lovely.

You could look on it as the HV saying what she needed to from a professional point of view, and just being a bit tactless?

MadamedeChevreuse · 17/04/2015 12:30

mouse - Flowers She may be an ok hv but Im pretty sure the idea is that hvs shouldnt leave their visits with the parent feeling crapper and lower than before. She should know how to deal with mums with history of pnd and depression and be accordingly careful of the effect she has imo.

You have a lot of extra shit to deal with as well as toddlermouses speech issues, and I think youre doing brilliantly. And are an ace wench to boot. Remember the wench mantra - Perve, and be kind to yourself!

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MadamedeChevreuse · 17/04/2015 12:32

Re new writer - I have high hopes now for s3. I think the americans will make sure it is BLOODY AMAZING TELLY.

Game on!!!!!!

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WickedWenchOfTheNorth · 17/04/2015 12:47

Flowers CakeBrew to Mouse

About 30 min in he gets asked my question, sort of, no mention about an open letter, missing the point entirely and Adrian giving a standard answer about "women in that time" blah, blah Angry

WickedWenchOfTheNorth · 17/04/2015 12:48

That interviewer is totally kissing his ass Angry

SisterHelenoftheEternalCatchUp · 17/04/2015 12:49

He misses the point and talks exclusively about Rochefort's character. Hmm But at least WW got a mention!

Enormouse · 17/04/2015 12:53

'Perve and be kind to yourself' Grin

LiviaDruscillaAugusta · 17/04/2015 13:01

Awwww Mouse he's gorgeous!

WW You had your name mentioned - that's like being married to Athos almost Grin

^^

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 17/04/2015 13:02

Haven't listened to that interview yet - I really really hope this is going to mean S3 is awesome. I'm not sure how to feel though TBH. Was it Ade responsible for the humour in S1? Cos if so, we may be stuffed on that front for S3 then Sad

Apparently he says re going back that "JP wouldn't allow it anyway" or similar - oooooohhhhhhh I wanna know what's happened! Is she blaming him for S2's viewing figs? The non-sexy sexy bits? Or WHAT?

I've heard the interviewer struggles for questions once it's revealed he's left so S3 isn't discussed & he just goes on about how fab S2 was. WTF? Why wouldn't he have been told that in advance? ALL the questions we sent in were about S3! And why interview Adrian at all - why didn't they get Jess in? DERRRRRRR.

Right - well I can see not a lot of this afternoon's admin is going to get done.

SisterHelenoftheEternalCatchUp · 17/04/2015 13:13

Summary of interview, scribbled typed notes while working.

Sparks he said JP wouldn't let him keep a finger in the pie after he left.

Here you go - it may or may not make sense.
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Adrian thinks that series 2 got it right Hmm and S1 was written for an earlier slot so it was odd. He wanted to develop 'serial' element in series 2 (story of week, but series arc bubbling away in background) which they were told not to in series1. Wanted to do best of both worlds in S2. Thinking of 3rd season was they’d gone too far in ‘story of week’ approach, so make it more story-arc and fewer individual episode stories.

Adrian would like episodes to go out on iplayer before transmission (as per Netflix) but not his decision. Don’t actually finish the show (post production) before start of transmission. Fans could watch on iplayer and build up publicity in advance of transmission. But that is BBC decision. Scheduling of S2 – not happy but no control over it. Originally scheduled to finish before Comic Relief and then football replays bumped it further back and show suffered from interruptions.

Series 3 filming on 27th April, not doing it. After last season was knackered and wanted break. Scheduling an issue, but would have carried on if he’d had a break between end of S2 and development of S3. He still regards it as his show because it was his concept and he developed the characters. Trying not to have anything to do with it, and JessP would probably not let him stick fingers in the pie anyway. Feels he is moving on at a high point.

Though Rochefort was like Iago in Othello. How much character development came from MW? None – did what he was told Grin Told him that Rochefort would have tragic aspect (ie. Loved/obsessed with queen and it all went wrong) Could write to actor’s strengths, but actor didn’t have say in character development.

Were they ever worried about going to far? Not as lighthearted, eased back on humour because topic were darker, but tried to keep banter in between characters. Felt S1 was more confused in tone – too humourous in places.

New baddie after Richelieu, wanted less ambiguous character – out and out baddie [I think that's what he said wan't paying full attention], was always planned to be one season only.

What input into season 3? Can’t say anything about Series 3.Completely different again, completely different feel. He’s aware of what’s being done – imaginative and clever, natural development from S2. At war now, so that's a major factor in S3 though not necessarily in the way you expect.

‘The Return’ was very tricky to shoot on TV budget most explicitly western episode they’re ever likely to do.

Balance between historical accuracy and modern script – hard to keep balance. Try to keep the background right, if not the main stories. Use history as inspiration. Try to keep costume and social situation accurate. Don’t have budget to populate palace with all the courtiers they’d have had.

WW gets a name check!!!!! Sexual violence against women? (General ‘We want more humour’ tone) He doesn’t think there’s an excessive amount of sexual violence against women Hmm Shock thinks whole issue is difficult because women were in very vulnerable position then (concentrated on Rochefort, prostitute/queen) prostitute scene used to show how crazy Rochefort was. Nothing gratuitous, all psychologically relevant. [misses point]

All characters had a bit of a story arc – not like it S1. Difficult to give all regular actors enough to do? Very difficult because so many regular characters.

Does the fans ‘investment’ in characters affect what they do? No, don’t change storylines for them ‘acutely aware of social media and what fans are saying’. Interested in what they think, but not to affect the story. Do responses not even affect subsequent theories? (AH is more interested in fans response than critics) Wanted to make Milady more human, and raise possibility that Athos might have been wrong about her all along – that’s left ambiguous on purpose.

Reaction to Aramis – musketeers horrified by situation with Anne, but supportive – one of AH’s favourite scenes, all consistent in their characters. Actors have innate understanding of their characters.

Is this closure for Anne/Aramis? Closure in one sense, can’t say exactly. But never entirely closed because they have a son together. Romantic side is probably done, he thinks.

Tried to close storylines because no guarantee of 3rd series while writing

Riding off after Aramis – were riders really racing – probably, they’re proficient riders so if given licence to go at full gallop, then they will. Plus the like competing against each other.

Porthos’ arc – liked gunpowder episode because made Porthos think more about his roots and set up for family background epiode. Develops the father/son relationship with Treville. Storyline about what father you want – the one who is, or the one who acts like one. AH wants to get rights to ‘Black Count’ if they lapse in Hollywood.

Fans are the best thing about writing genre TV

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 17/04/2015 13:19

Wow Helen - thanks for that! I think I'm going to leave it til tonight to listen as there's bound to be no TV Hmm

SparklesRedHotChileLeather · 17/04/2015 13:21
Swagger Inn: Thread 91. Just nobody mention the DVD extras, kay? <catsbum>