csa, income support ,i dont understand help!

[nikcola]

i have split with my dp (dds dad) he has moved back in his mom and dad, i have had to give up work and i have made a claim for income supoport and i got a letter this monning from csa and they are coming to see me on wednesday,
i stupidly put on the form that he (dp) was not her dad becauase i didnt want him to pay maintenence through csa i want him to buy stuff for dd each month i.e nappies clothes and stuff that she needs and i cant afford, wot do i say to them will they let us do it this way or will they insist that he gives me money via them (csa) beacause if we do it through them i will lose out from my income support i heard that what ever he gives me for dd they will take it off me through my income support, any acvice greatfully received (used to be shireensmom)

Nikcola - you had better check the notes that go with the form. I'm an accountant and forever signing peoples forms so am fairly sure it is restricted to certain professions. However best thing to do is to check the notes.

Right have found the list from the passport agency as follows!

The countersignatory must hold a current British or Irish passport, and be willing to provide their passport number in the relevant space in section 10.

ACCEPTABLE COUNTERSIGNATURES

Accountant
Articled Clerk of a Limited Company
Assurance Agent of Recognised Company
Bank/Building Society Official
Barrister
Broker
Chairman/Director of Limited Company
Chemist
Chiropodist
Christian Science Practitioner
Commissioner of Oaths
Councillor: Local or County
Civil Servant (permanent)
Dentist
Engineer (with professional Qualifications)
Fire Service Official
Funeral Director
Insurance agent (full time) of a recognised Company
Journalist
Justice of the Peace
Legal Secretary (members and fellows of the Institute of legal secretaries)
Local Government Officer
Manager/Personnel Officer (of Limited Company)
Member of Parliament
Merchant Navy Officer
Minister of a recognised religion
Nurse (SRN and SEN)
Officer of the armed services (Active or Retired)
Optician
Person with Honours (eg OBE MBE etc)
Person with recognised qualification (eg BSc, PhD etc)
Photographer (Professional)
Police Officer
Post Office Official
President/Secretary of a recognised organisation
Salvation Army Officer
Social Worker
Solicitor
Surveyor
Teacher, Lecturer
Trade Union Officer
Travel Agency (Qualified)
Valuers and auctioneers (fellow and associate members of the incorporated society)
Warrant officers and Chief Petty Officers
Or persons of similar standing to the above, working or retired, are acceptable as countersignatories.

Relatives or partners should not countersign passport applications.

thank you

I am not sure why you actually need to get a passport for your DD, esp if you can't afford it. Can't you just make sure that neither he nor his family can ever get their hands on her birth certificate? (would the care home put it in their safe for you? ) Can fathers without parental responsibility apply for a passport?

he has got perental responsability if his name is on her birth ceterficate hasnt he?

No. Parental Responsibility is if he has filled in a form which has been counter-signed by a court. Aloha posted the details about it somewhere. But other people may have knowledge that he can get a passport for her? I seem to remember that I was the only person who could sign my DS's passport form as I am not married to his Dad.
Just make sure you don't let her birth certificate out of your sight.

Blu - think he could apply for a copy of the birth certificate, think anyone can get a copy of any birth certificate. But, yes, I remember when I applied for my daughter's passport, I had to obtain details of her father's passport number. Presumably if you (Nikcola) kept your passport out of the way, he couldn't apply successfully for a passport for your daughter.

What an awful situation for you to be in nicola. You really should tell the CSA about these threats, i remember reading something about threats of/or violence on their website...have you had a look at it? I work for a limited company and my boss signed the passport for me and my ds. Dont want to pry but was it both of your families that dissaproved initially? theres been such a lot of good advice on this thread so i havent much to add but im in the Birmingham area too so if you ever need any help i can try my best to find out about things for you. feel free to contact me if you want xx

hi nikcola hope your ok just wondered if youd thought about going to the citizens advice bureau. they would probably be able to advise you about parental responsibility, csa, and maybe have some thoughts about what to do about his family?

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ok, it didnt work!! its www.csa.gov.uk!!

How are you doing Nikcola ????

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hi nutty, im ok today dp didnt come round last nite, im going to town with dd in a bit im going to go to the cab, and then to the docs to see about my headaches again! and then im going to go to the dss and see how long it is going to take for me to get some money im running very low now i got £25 off my mom this morning i told her dd needed some new shoes! i dont want her to no how bad things are. but its a bloody cheque so i gotta wait 5 days for it to be cashed,
ESSBEE, ive allready had my lone pearent advisor meeting it was rubbish, i really shi*ing myself about tomorow now ill post back when i get back from town now ive got the task of trying to get a docs appointment for today wish me luck!!! thank you for all your advice xxxxx

nightowl, yeh its both our familys my dad and step mom are coming round slowly dd is his only grandchild so i wish he would see her more he is just set in his ways, my mom and step dad, i sotta get on with but they are the reason i was in care because i didnt get on with my moms new husband they kicked me out, they come down every other month but i dont think of her as my mom as far as im concerened i aint got a mom, she gives me money cause she feels guilty, she doesnt really like dp she tells all her friends and my family i.e cousins aunts that dd is haf spanish when she is half asian, and as for dps mom and dad they hate me and dd and i hate them

how are you today nik? did you have a look at that site?

hi yeh i ahd a look thank you nightowl, itr was quite helpfull when the csa lady or man (god i hope its a woman) comes tomoroww im just gonna tell her everything i dont think ive actually done anything wrong i lied because i was scared, if i tell her the truth she will proberlly not belive me anyway, im shitt*ing myself

hi, did you go to cab? found them quite helpful when i was pregnant(long time ago now!). good luck for tomorrow

i went but i bottled out i didnt want to tell a stranger my hole life story silly really because ive never meet any mumsnetters and i would tell you all anyting and everything!!

ah well, we are the font of all knowlege

there is an organization in sheffield called parentline where ou can get confidential info over the phone. is maybe something like that in your area?

ok the csa man came ihe was here for about 10 mins if that i tryed to explain everything but he just wanted dps name and dob i wouldnt give him his add because of his family, so the csa man said ill be having another interview in a few weeks to see if i have a good enough reason to opt out