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Advice on how to deter rapists

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Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:05

A friend just emailed me with this:

Metropolitan Police Issued
This Newsletter October 2003 MUST BE READ

Through a Rapist?s Eyes

A group of rapists and date rapists in prison were interviewed on what they look for in a potential victim and here are some interesting facts:

1 The first thing men look for in a potential victim is hairstyle. They are most likely to go after a woman with a ponytail or other hairstyle that can be easily be grabbed. They are also likely to go after a woman with long hair. Woman with short hair are not common targets.
2 The second thing men look for is clothing. They will look for woman whose clothing is easy to remove quickly. Many of them carry scissors around to cut clothing.
3 They also look for women on their mobile phone, searching through their purse or doing other activities while walking, because they are off guard and can be easily overpowered.
4 The time of day men are most likely to attack and rape a woman is in the early morning, between 05.00 and 08.30 am.
5 The thing about these men is that they are looking to grab a woman quickly mover her to a second location where they don?t have to worry about getting caught.
6 Only 2% said they carried weapons because rape carries a 3 ? 5 year sentence, but rape with a weapon is 15 ? 20 years.
7 If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realise that going after you isn?t worth it because it will be time-consuming.
8 These men said they would not pick on women who have umbrellas, or other similar objects that can be used from a distance, in their hands. Keys are not a deterrent because you have to get really close to the attacker to use them as a weapon. So, the idea is to convince these guys you?re not worth it.
9 Several defence mechanisms he taught us are: if someone is following behind you on a street or in a garage or with you in a lift or stairwell, look them in the face and ask them a question, like ?what time is it?? or make general small talk, ?I can?t believe it is so cold out here, we?re in for a bad winter?. Now you?ve seen their face and could identify them in a line-up, you lose appeal as a target.
10 If someone is coming toward you, hold out your hands in front of you and yell ?stop? or ?STAY BACK?. Most of the rapists talked to said they?d leave a woman alone if she yelled or showed that she would not be afraid to fight back. Again, they are looking for an EASY target.

FORWARD THIS TO EVERY WOMAN YOU KNOW!
IT?S SIMPLE STUFF BUT IT COULD SAVE LIVES.

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VeryGoodInsect · 02/04/2004 19:08

Thanks Janstar, very very sad

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:09

something a bit odd about this... smells like a hoax to me...

apologies if not.

kiwisbird · 02/04/2004 19:11

I know it id NOT from teh MEt Police... prob someone added that for effect, not all silly points they make though
Easiest way is never to leave the house, don't wear skirts etc....
Typical how we have to adjust our lifestyles and actions for twunts who are animals

kiwisbird · 02/04/2004 19:11

scuse crap spelling, not on the wine yet is all...

katierocket · 02/04/2004 19:14

this is very old email round robin thingy

not saying it's not useful but definitely not from metropolian police

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:15

actually i'm not sure some of this "advice" couldn't be downright dangerous...

Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:15

I don't know if it comes from the Police really or not, but the advice sounds very worthwhile to me.

I'd rather take it on board than be raped. But I know what you mean, kiwisbird.

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kiwisbird · 02/04/2004 19:19

I've been there JanSar, trust me fighting makes no difference to outcome, but I feel better knowing I did fight and hurt him too...

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:19

7 If you put up any kind of a fight at all, they get discouraged because it only takes a minute or two for them to realise that going after you isn’t worth it because it will be time-consuming.

or you could be seriously hurt... i'd want advice from a trusted source on something like this.

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:19

very sorry to hear that kiwisbird

VeryGoodInsect · 02/04/2004 19:21

Sorry Kiwi, thats terrible xxx

oxocube · 02/04/2004 19:24

Not sure how following this advice could be dangerous BK. Are you referring to the possibility of being hurt even more if you fight back? Sorry to be thick but most of he advice, whether from the Met or not, seemed quite sensible to me or am I missing something very obvious?

Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:24

I'm sorry too, Kiwisbird. But I don't think you can assume that your experience was representative of the majority. Who knows.

I posted this because it sounded sensible to me and I wanted to share it in the hope that it would reduce the chances, even slightly, of one of us falling prey.

I must say you seem extremely keen to discredit it without considering it might be genuine. I wish I hadn't posted it now.

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Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:25

My last paragraph applies more to BK by the way.

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kiwisbird · 02/04/2004 19:27

No Jan some of it worth considering but its worth remembering most rapes are carried out by men you invite into your home or surroundings or meet socially or are related to..
Stranger rapes are less common but it these things are valubale to remind us all that the risk is there and we do need to protect ourselves
PS I'm ok about it now, it got "dealt" with fairly shall I say....
Revenge is sweet trust me

Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:28

That's a remark that leaves a person keen to hear the rest!

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bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:29

oxocube, yes that's it exactly.

janstar, katierocket has confirmed my suspicions that it isn't genuine. no need to get defensive. i don't have a hidden agenda to "discredit" what you post, but i do have the right to comment on what seems fishy and in the case of point (7) potentially dangerous. presumably, since this doesn't come from a trusted source, my opinions are just as valid as those expressed by the writer.

TheCODERATOR · 02/04/2004 19:30

Janstar dont be annoyed
come and play cricket

JennH · 02/04/2004 19:35

I think this is a bit misleading.
read this

Its not about the sex, its about power and countrol, I have had this fwded to me a few times and it is a bit of a pet peeve with me. It is not often not that planned. And the fighting thing really upsets me. I didn't fight back and the guilt haunts me to this day, I just think it makes women feel even more guilty.

The best way to avoid an attack is to be aware of where you are, always tell people where you are going, and dont go into isolated places. But even then it is more likely to happen by someone you know and trust which is just devatstating

Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:36

Oooh. Is Katierocket a police lady?

Coddy you are mean.

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JennH · 02/04/2004 19:36

That sounds really bitchy, sorry

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:38

i'm so sorry to read this, jennh, and who knows what would have happened to you if you had fought back? no need for you to feel guilty. i agree with you things like this just victimise women even more.

bossykate · 02/04/2004 19:39

janstar, admit it, it's not genuine, so having a snide go at me doesn't get you anywhere.

TheCODERATOR · 02/04/2004 19:39

ooh sorry Janstar I REALLY got you confused

didnt mean to take the piss

Janstar · 02/04/2004 19:40

Thank you Jenn. It didn't sound in the least bit bitchy. And why should you feel guilty? You didn't commit any crime.

I'm sorry BK. I was just trying to be helpful. And I still think some of the points are worth thinking about.

Are you still my friend?

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