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Can anyone help me ... i need advice on housing ......

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Scoobydooooo · 23/08/2006 13:26

Yes i am in the crapiest of situation & have spent the whole morning crying whats new hey!

Well we are in private rented & have been for the past 2 years in this house, we have a assured shorthold tenancy which ends on the 1st september 2006 the lanlord had served us with a "section 21" notice for eviction on the 18th september we are on the council housing list & i have been speaking to them on & off now since about april, i only have 25 points & we need 95 they have said.

I get on really well with the landlord & he has been very nice & understanding but he does want to move back into his property & is hoping to on the 18th BUT i have phoned the council again today & they have told me come the 18th i do not have to leave & he will have to take me to court la la la la i do NOT want to go to court, i am extremley down & really struggling with this how situation i dont know where to turn but i honestly have sat here today & thought i can not go through this anymore...

My HV still visits me at home because i have PND & i see my docotr about twice a month i can not take this stress its wearing me down & i feel like running away, it has put trmedous amount of stress on mine & dp's relationship.

I have tried everything i have even written to the MP he was very nice & he did try but the council just fobbed him off.

So what the hell can i do now? i just can't go on like this.....

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emma187 · 16/09/2006 20:46

i no it is, im so fed up of it worrying about it all the time, i dont have aany medical points went to my doc told them about the stress hoping they might right me a letter but she gave me sleeping pills i kept the priscription incase anything comes of it.... but they can send u a form for you to write all medical stuff your self then doc has a look at it but they havent sent me one yet..i wouldnt no what to write but i think il just right everything in there. i said to the women at the council advise... you know when they take you in to that small room, that ive had enough of this i just dont understand how we can not be a priority and that i have been all the way through the housing system already and that i have given in docunments of this, she seemed like she listened and agreed with me on the last bit but still not much been down.yes hopefully wen we get packs wil no more about it hopefully a majic fairy comes our way and gives us some luck before than..emma

fussymummy · 16/09/2006 21:43

Hi girls, have just been through some of this thread and i really feel for you.

Keep on at the council, don't let up, even when you feel like you've had enough.

You will reap the rewards in the end.

Scooby, do you have all your belongings packed yet???

Be ready to go on monday, as council are able to house families on eviction day.

Our local council to;d me that they have to keep so many properties available for emergencies, so don't feel deflated.

There will be a house with your name on it.

You too Emma, please keep on fighting.

kattykins · 18/09/2006 11:25

hi i am currently in a battle with our council we are in a first fllor flat with no lifts i have a 2 yr old and 6 month old i suffer from high blood pressure and severe depression and anxiety and am on meds for both am hoping that letters from gp hv and social worker may get some points its a horrible situation and i hope you get the home u deserve scooby x

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 15:04

Hello all,

Emma if you have no medical points it is worth trying that route now even if the points go out the window it can help with your priority need etc, to get medical points you have to fill in a form yourself & also you should be sent a form for your doctor to fill in, they fill it in & bill the council for it £10. I done this back in april when i started & was given my low priority points of 15 she said they look at your medication & go by what you are on & what help you are getting etc etc.

I still don't have a pack through yet, my friend who lives in a cancel house already has had a pack though on friday which has put her in band F obviously because she has already been housed.

Fussymummy thanks for coming back on & asking after me, i seem to have picked up a bit from my new antidepressants i have been on for about 3 weeks now, i don't have many bad days, just feel scared because of the situation but don't feel as emotional so i believe i was in need of some pills to make me feel half sain
I have packed probably half the house, it's very hard to pack but i have packed all the small bits & sorted out ds & dd's room, just not done anything to the big stuff but i did think about dismatling beds & ds could sleep on his matress he would be more than happy, i have packed most toys away (ds's birthday tomorrow so more toys we be arriving) & also packed all bedroom stuff like teddies & clothes that are not really needed, have removed all pictures from the walls & also packed half the kitchen, just boxes & mess everywhere but something we have to live with right now.

Kattykins what council are you abttling with> your situation does not sound good at all, i would have a nightmare in a top high up flat because i have sciatica in my back & ds loves to run away
Any letters from anyone are good but not great anybody higher than a gp/hv like a counciller or social worker does put you in the middle bracket for points i was told by our council for the medical points.
It is very stressful but keep pushing for what you believe is right & don't give up, i have found it good to keep them reminded of your name because now when i see them they know my whole situation & everything

Well dp spoke to the housing manager today & he said we are a priority need & he will do anything in his power to help us & make it as less stressful for our family as possible, the landlord phoned today & said he really wants us out by the end of the month so i am pushing & pushing, i will have to bid as soon as the first places go on & then if i dont win first time round i am going to have to push to be put into temp accomadation & bid from there. The good thing i know that the law is once in temp because we have 2 young kids you are not allowed to be kept there longer than 6 weeks, 6 weeks is fine as long as i know things will happen.

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 15:27

hi did u get a pack today i did but was listed as being in band f ... called them up said im actually in d.. dont no what all that was about.cant wait for it 2 start so i actually know coz i am holding on to yhis working. dnt no wat will happen otherwise hope u got urs and all is good

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 16:44

Hi emma, no pack for me today may come tomorrow, have they now changed the band for you, they better have me in the right band otherwise i will be straight on the phone

Does it say in your pack what date it is starting? when dp spoke to the housing manager he said at the end of this week? huh? why do they keep changing it?

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 17:13

im not sue i was suposed to be in band d but letter said band f called them right up she said she would send me a new letter. i have updated my registration form 3 times since the last time i moved and they still quote my old adress to me. the lady i spoke to said basicly the longer the date you have been registered withy the council the higher you will be in that band.
they sent a sheet of propertys out but it says this is a sample.. from 26th september it says on form. and they will receive a pin soon
bit confused it does say that band and priority date should be included all i could see was band info mayb wen i get the right one il no better. hope i get it soon .
then ther is a little booklet that says guide im gonna give that a good read u can probs ead in on line
type in google hometrak woking your step by step guide..
and see what comes up i reas the first newsletter they sent out like this online too its worth a try ill read a bit more and get back

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 17:16

Oh i see what your saying i really hope you are in band D because the other bands are just not even worth it, no matter what band i am in they have said i am priority my situation is totally different because we are actually homeless with no where to live
I will let you know what mine says when i get it i am just going to google what you said thanks

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 17:25

i think that they will put you in a or b as c
a emergency
b premium
c priority

i think we will all be sent a priority date for you that should be the day your tenancy ends..
il soon be in ur position landlord wants me out owe lots in bills..hope you foung it on gogle

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 17:30

I think i am in D thats what it said in my letter from the housing manager & when dp spoke to him today thats what he said, although he said we are quite top priority in band D because we are classed as homeless, i personally am not pinning all my hopes on this because i also know there are another 3000 & god knows what situations they are in, i think we will end up in temporary accomadation & then have to bid from there, it's a long old process but i suppose nothing is easy in life

I did find the news letter i actually had that in the post a while ago, it's all very interesting, wonder if the scheme even works!

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Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 17:31

3000 people

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 17:58

i hope so too. im going to call them back up again 2moro and ask them for priority date that should give an idea of how high up in the band u are. i stilld ont totally get it but hope it works.
hope they dont put you in temp accom as its really bad some of the places iv lived in would make u sick.. how many of u are there coz i think it wuld be harder to find temp accom for ie mum dad 2kids, than one parent one child. coz most the t accom they have is like one room..
if you know woking the 2 houses next to the big vets are temp acom thats not bad but not for a family u never know who ur next door neighbour is and u have to share kitchen bathroom etc...
The last one i was in was getting raiding by the police,all the time, weridos all over the place i moved in to private was so fed up of being in temp accom 5 (5years all over the place though in different places) 1 week later the lady that looked after the place got attacked with a sword durring the day.. right before i left had a really bad feeling something would happen even told her. council thought i was talkin crap pushed me into private.. so i hope that you can get housed properly before that happens.. what i really want is affordable rent so i can get into a routine if u no what i mean...
do u ever go down there, i no thst if you are there all the time they kind of listen to you more(no promises) i used to go down there all the time but cany keep spend the 3.50 bus fare all the time for the same crap..
als say to them that u have looked for other private rent and u cant find any

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 18:10

Yes i haev been there a few times last time was friday, we also phone alot & email i also used to write letters because things in writing is good but now time is running out so phone calls & visits is the way to go now.

I know the temp accom next to the vets my friend stayed there with her husband & dd she was in the bottom one of the left, she had 2 big rooms & a kitchen but had to share the bathroom yuuukkkk.

It all sounds awful, if we do go into temp i will stay at my mums in the days & literally just sleep there, i also have my sisters house i can go to, it will be hard enough having to sleep there but hey thats life.

There are 4 of us myself, dp, ds who is 4 tomorrow & dd who is 8 months.

How many in your family?

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 18:34

3 of us...was in temp by my self as wel,its good that you have people that u could stay with even tho its not ideal,then if they do put u in temp u can find problems ther that culd make u even more priorty.. like thing in the property unsafe etc

you would think that they would give priortys to familys but they dnt seem to be.there a girl lives near me 18 with a council property..
i think alot of people were point chasers,,,, i dont even no how to do that.
i just dnt understand there system those that are oviusly in nedd of housing and there not at the top of the list..
i wrote to jan chapman head of housing she just passed it on to the manager below her..
my mum has a council prop so i no how much difference there is in bills and its huge,,, afordable housing should be given to those who need it mayb instead of thrm building all them fancy flats in woking center
i feel that its more that just one problem that could be solved with just one thing,,, fed uop of thinking were will i live next year, were wil i be dnt really feel like i have my own home.. here i cant even put a pic up my living room is half kitchen half living room no way to divide it at all, my son is so noisy he wants to explore evrywhere as they do but its not really safe. if i have to do a propper cook i wai till hes aslepp coz hed be opening cuboards and all sorts,, just there are so many factors that make up one problem....
i wonder if ther is a way that u can complain ..proberly when i complained to jan chapman didnt reaaly get much luck.. housing advier even told me that if you have been on reg for 3 years you should of been housed,, so i hope this banding thing works dont reallt get it
if your in a certain band do u bid on houses in that band ?
or is it like so many people bid and is a bid they get it first
that the bit i dont understand coz if it is like that other bands would never get a chance
i think that we just have to be high up in the band u in ???????

emma187 · 18/09/2006 18:34

3 of us...was in temp by my self as wel,its good that you have people that u could stay with even tho its not ideal,then if they do put u in temp u can find problems ther that culd make u even more priorty.. like thing in the property unsafe etc

you would think that they would give priortys to familys but they dnt seem to be.there a girl lives near me 18 with a council property..
i think alot of people were point chasers,,,, i dont even no how to do that.
i just dnt understand there system those that are oviusly in nedd of housing and there not at the top of the list..
i wrote to jan chapman head of housing she just passed it on to the manager below her..
my mum has a council prop so i no how much difference there is in bills and its huge,,, afordable housing should be given to those who need it mayb instead of thrm building all them fancy flats in woking center
i feel that its more that just one problem that could be solved with just one thing,,, fed uop of thinking were will i live next year, were wil i be dnt really feel like i have my own home.. here i cant even put a pic up my living room is half kitchen half living room no way to divide it at all, my son is so noisy he wants to explore evrywhere as they do but its not really safe. if i have to do a propper cook i wai till hes aslepp coz hed be opening cuboards and all sorts,, just there are so many factors that make up one problem....
i wonder if ther is a way that u can complain ..proberly when i complained to jan chapman didnt reaaly get much luck.. housing advier even told me that if you have been on reg for 3 years you should of been housed,, so i hope this banding thing works dont reallt get it
if your in a certain band do u bid on houses in that band ?
or is it like so many people bid and is a bid they get it first
that the bit i dont understand coz if it is like that other bands would never get a chance
i think that we just have to be high up in the band u in ???????

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 19:08

How it actually works is like this..

You are in a Band, band A is obviously top priority, you should have been told what size property you are allowed like 2 bed 3 bed etc i think we are on 3 bedroom lst but will find out when i get my pack i hope.

Then the council will put houses, flats all sorts of property & you are allowed to bid on the size prperty you have been told, like i can bid on all 3 bedroom propertys if thats what i am.

then after the 2 weeks have been & all who wants to bid has bid they will look at who is in the highest band so if you bid on a property & you are in Band D if someone comes along & also bids on that property but they are in Band C they get the property not you!

Then if there is say 5 people who are in Band D & thats the highest band that bid they will probably show all 5 people the property & then the ones who actually like it & want it will be looked at & the one who is in the most desperate need will get the house, i:e if someone bids against you & you are both in Band D & thats the highest bid on the property, say you are in a house but the other person is living on someones sofa they will get the property.

Hope that makes sense....

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Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 19:09

I don't have anyones house to sleep at i only have places to go in the day time, my mums house has her my bro & my sister in & my other sister has her hubby & her dd, but i have places to go in the day if i want to.

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emma187 · 18/09/2006 19:14

thanks that great get it now,,, i hope u get pack 2moro i prob wont get my proper one till wed or thurs as they messed it up.. at least the 26th isnt that long away... i hope im in a good proirty, you toooo
ill let you know what happens or if i found anything else out, im gonna have a nossy at council website

Scoobydooooo · 18/09/2006 19:23

Yeah same here i will keep you posted & also let you know how we get on & any tricks of the trade i find on the way

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kattykins · 18/09/2006 22:25

it is ellesmere port and neston borough council we have also been speaking to the head of lettings etc its such a nightmare just feel so sorry for the kids involved i never imagined it would be such a struggle just to get a house!! keep on pushing though eh!!

Scoobydooooo · 20/09/2006 16:07

Recieved my pack today, said i was in Band E so straight on the phone to the housing manager who said the system had not been updated & that i was in Band D & would get a new pack in the post.

I spoke to him about the situation & said my health is just getting worse & the kids are suffering etc etc, he said he was going to write to the women i haev been dealing with & also said he spoke to her on monday with regards to us & our situation.

I am just bored, tired & fed up today, starting to feel down again, have bcome addicted to my sleeping tablets & can not go to sleep without them which is just not good because they are making me feel really tired & groggy in the day time. I have been going to bed at 8-9pm & sleeping through till 7am but i am shattered, hoping i am not pg cause that would just be the worst thing that could ever happen right now.

Anyway trying to keep my chin up but finding it hard today, hows everyone else feeling?

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emma187 · 20/09/2006 16:58

Me 2 my pack says band f but i should be in d, they sayd il receive new pack soon. need to know what my priorty date is though wont know till monday, i think that the most important bit, gonna ahave to call them monday again, starts on tues, im so fed up of this situation.hope ur feeling beteer im trying not to think bout it but i cant help it..

fussymummy · 21/09/2006 00:02

You poor girls going through this.
I keep reading your new posts and sometimes feel like an imposter, but i'm just waiting for the happy endings when you eventually get your places to live.

Scooby, hows your landlord being with you????

I know you said quite early on, that you get on with him, has this all changed now???

Or does he understand how long the council take???

Pregnant!!!!!!! (just what you need)!!!!

Have you done a test, just in case?

Might speed council up a bit if you were!!!!!

Scoobydooooo · 21/09/2006 09:56

Hi fussymummy don't feel like an imposter you come & join in as much as you like, it's great to have people tp talk to about the situation, in fact it has really helped me to be on here & share what hell i am going through.

The landlord is still be ok with me, we speak a couple of times a week & i keep him updated, he has said that he really wants his house back at the end of this month & if the council don't pull there finger out he is off to see a soliciter, i have told the housing manager this yesterday when i spoke to him & said trhat i really do not have the strength to be dragged through court.

I am probably not pg, i really hope not anyway, i think it may be my sleeping tablets making me feel funny, i am very paronoid about becoming pg again because i can only just cope with the 2 i have so 3 would be a complete no no. I am not even going to think down those lines i am just going to wait for my af.

I got my pin number through today to register for this silly new scheme so will do that at some point.

Dp is now feeling the strain he is normally calm & chilled but he was awake all last night worrying what is going to happen to us all & now he feels he needs to see the doctor, nothing is good this end, just trying to keep things as normal as i possibly can for the kids because i know ds will suffer if i don't.

We have even thought about moving away to buy a house because dp has good wages but it's just this area we can not afford to live in, if we moved about 40 mins away we could afford to buy a house, dp would just have to commute to work, this is our fall back idea if the house we get is just a complete shit tip.

Been feeling down the last couple of days can not quite put my finger on it but not feeling right. I went to bed at 7.30pm last night & was alseep by 8.30pm after taking my sleeping pills, i did not wake till 8am when ds came in & woke me up but i am still shattered.

Oh well another day, hows you emma? & how are you getting on Katykins?

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emma187 · 21/09/2006 15:46

hiya everyone
i got my pin today too, still dont no priority date though and ive been told thats the most important bit,, bit stressed out today went to see cab bout all the debt ive encurred living here said not much they can do till i move as ive been paying it off already but keeps rising,, got bit arrrrrrrrgghhh for a while,
have to call monday to get priorty date at least we can bid on tuesday hope it goes well for you scobbydoooo... the h manager told me if u want to get housed bid for anything dnt matter location and ect, i already told her i dont care as long as i can afford it and get stable not have to move again and again i dnt care ill do it up my self... not taking the sleeping pills so hardly sleeping,,, all kind of gettin to me now... just had enuff of it,,, im gonna be in rent arrears soon and then i cant leave her till ive paid that off as well so what to do what to do,,,,this probally all sounds jumbled but its been a very long day, best luck emma

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