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An apology for 'narniagate', an explanation of what it really was, and hopefully and ending.

269 replies

Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:13

Firstly; clarifications..

I know you guys are fed up with people 'dragging this half buried corpse' up into the open, and so am I..

I know I left, and I just want to say I did ask MNHQ about three times via email to delete me from their database (if that's the correct term) and they didn't so here I still half am.

I'd also like to say that since my leaving I've not used any other name and I haven't posted.

I have namechecked though and I'm not embarrassed to admit it!

My problems (as if you care)...

My first problem is that I can't actually physically escape mumsnet - I am not addicted to it, although at one time I probably was... but I have real life and MSN friends who are regular MNers and I seriously cannot escape talk of this board, or mentions of me etc.

My other and most upsetting problem is that a small (at least I hope it's small) amount of you think I'm some kind of evil malicious creature. Recently my friend organised a meet up, I said I wouldn't go because of all this, but she persuaded me anyway (hello you if you're reading, you persuader you, oh ok all you have to do is dangle chocolate in front of me) anyway, on hearing that I was going another MNer decided to pull out, saying that it might be damaging for her child if I was there, I don't know if you realise how upsetting it is for someone to think of you that way, but it really isn't pleasant to know that people think of me as some evil potential child damager. (if you're reading - I know you came anyway hun, but there it is all the same, I'm not saying it as a personal thing about you, and I don't blame you).

What really happened

Well I started it all, I found out from someone else that you could post over the top of deleted threads and they didn't show up on active convos, therefore you had to be linked to them. Then in a fit of madness I thought it would be funny to start a 'Btch Club' thread, with all the rules of fight club, but about btching. At the time I thought people would do 'spoofy' b*tching and that it would all be fun and games, I was having a really thoughtless idiotic week, but there's no point in excuses.

Some people decided to take it seriously - Starlover and Lockets said some nasty things about people on here (not sure they want to be mentioned, god I'm not sure SL and L want to be again either, argh it's messy) but basically they said that someone wore clothes they er, didn't agree with and that they just plain didn't like someone else (and a few other people, but I'm quite sure those other people already knew and that is the key thing here)... I then said that I found someone on here homophobic, because in one of her posts the person had made me cry whilst talking about me flaunting bi-curious ways too much on the board (which I did, but you still made me cry) - I'd already said what I thought about her to her on the boards and it was only a repetition of those words.

[note added afterwards]

Something that I did that may be construed as btchy was that on the narnia thread I said 'what do you think of so'n'so?' which I meant as 'what do you think of me adding so'n'so to the group?' but by the time I had emailed the link to her, I came back to find everyone had said what they thought* of her!

The thing was that the two people from here that were mentioned didn't know this was how L and SL felt about them, and they had met these people.

About two weeks later one of the people mentioned emailed me, and it suddenly occured to me that if it was me, I would want to know what was said, and without any further thinking (seriously I didn't think) I told her all about it, she emailed back, said (or maybe asked? Can't remember) she was telling everyone here and I still didn't think of what a serious issue this would turn into, it was a real shock. Yes, I was that naive.

It's all a bit hazy now, but I know for certain that I'm not the evil, malicious sht stirring screaming banshee that some of you think I am. I know that in RL I don't do or understand btching, and have never really got gossiping either, I was always a bit of a tomboy in that respect 'have a bot of a shout, get over it'.... I tell people to their faces, usually, although we all have chats about other people we know.

I'm sorry for dragging this up, but I'm not the first, I'm not even the first to talk about it today. I hope that you can all please just let it go after this thread because it really wasn't as bad as most of you think (I mean, we really, honestly banged on for hundreds of posts about real nappies and who was the better lentil weaver).

I don't think SL and L said anything nearly as bad as quite a few people (probably) say in MSN all the time and TBH I think they've been victims of a witch-hunt based on not many facts (me too a little)... although I'm sure the two people who were mentioned don't think that, and are very right to be very hurt.

I'm sorry for the whole saga, I'm sorry for the length of this, I'm sorry for forcing my need for closure under your nose like this.

I can't stand having friends on here, even if I don't want to post, I feel banished and shunned.

I know, it's just the net, get a life. But still, the feeling remains.

Maybe you will link people who call me an evil sht stirring btch to this now? Even if just reading the sheer length of it is good punishment for swearing!

(I bet no one bothered reading to the end did they?)

Over and out (out damn spot!)
Fastasleep, the idiot. Who is still bl--dy here..

OP posts:
SoupDragon · 18/07/2006 13:19

WTF is the point of this??

magnolia1 · 18/07/2006 13:20

Well I read it all and am still here

Didn't get involved at the time and not really going to now but wanted to say Hi

Chin up luv, stay if you want and it really will pass if you let it xxxx

tiredemma · 18/07/2006 13:22

im glad you cleared al that up beacuse i didnt have a bloody clue what was going on.at all.

MamaG · 18/07/2006 13:22

I wasn't involved but briefly remember it - since then I started a v v contentious thread and upset a lot of people, but I apologised, learned from it and moved on. I'm still here. Suggest you do the same.

I wouldn't dream of resurrencting "my" horrid thread though!!

oliveoil · 18/07/2006 13:23

beef · 18/07/2006 13:24

sorry I don't see the point of this.

is it 'poor me, it wasn't my fault?'

you're opening old wounds just so you can feel better.

iirc you acted abominably and I lost a 'friend' so you're not on my Christmas card list, no.

misdee · 18/07/2006 13:24

beef, who are you?

NotAnOtter · 18/07/2006 13:25

tired mama - i still dont!!!

poisson · 18/07/2006 13:25

i love a bitchy fight
more please

oliveoil · 18/07/2006 13:26

300 posts by 2pm I would wager

misdee · 18/07/2006 13:26

All i know is, that narnia thread hurt 2 of the people on here i consider to be 'real' friends rather than just internet friends, and in the respect, i dont want to know anymore.

NomDePlume · 18/07/2006 13:26

I was totally unaware of what 'narniagate' was all about (was busy moving at the time), and having read this I'm still none the wiser !

Fastasleep - I don't hate you. In fact I don't hate anybody on here, there are a few I disagree with, but hate is wiiiiiiiiiide of the mark !

bundle · 18/07/2006 13:26

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NotActuallyAMum · 18/07/2006 13:27
Pierre · 18/07/2006 13:27

FA - think you were actually very brave to come back and post so frankly, and of course, to apologise.

Do you want to stay?

zippitippitoes · 18/07/2006 13:27

the only bright part of this that does make have a wry is that it came to take the name narniagate..

KBear · 18/07/2006 13:28

cod, what are you like??

poisson · 18/07/2006 13:29

ok gatehr around in a circle
ok afetr em
clap hands and

"fight fight fight"

poisson · 18/07/2006 13:30

after all i MEVER slag peopel of behind theirbacks
no one on MN EVERdoes that

Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:31

The point of this is that I actually just did acknowledge it was me who started it, and that I acted in a shameful unthinking way.

I'm not evil though and was never malicious.

I want it to end, to be honest I guess I want to feel that people don't think I'm the afore mentioned evil etc etc, because I know I'm not. That's all there is to it.

I'm sorry people lost friends, but TBH I can't really see why? Unless it was due to believing some hyped up story or something, which I actually had no involvement in... if you want to direct your anger towards me that's fine.

I'm not leaving and lurking for effect, I have to do 'stuff' now, I'm just here while my baby has a feed, so this might ge my last comment.

OP posts:
NomDePlume · 18/07/2006 13:32

Was I mentioned on that thread ?

[paranoid emoticon]

bundle · 18/07/2006 13:32

the real narniagate

lucy5 · 18/07/2006 13:33

hehehehe bundle!

Pierre · 18/07/2006 13:33

Bundle - it is 40° here (38° in the shade) - I have just set your photo as my desktop!

Piffle · 18/07/2006 13:34

Cod you're up front about your bitching honey
I knew nothing of this it went whoosh over my head a jolly good thing too
I know someone on here whom I adore in a cyber way was hurt and that really pissed me off...