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An apology for 'narniagate', an explanation of what it really was, and hopefully and ending.

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Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:13

Firstly; clarifications..

I know you guys are fed up with people 'dragging this half buried corpse' up into the open, and so am I..

I know I left, and I just want to say I did ask MNHQ about three times via email to delete me from their database (if that's the correct term) and they didn't so here I still half am.

I'd also like to say that since my leaving I've not used any other name and I haven't posted.

I have namechecked though and I'm not embarrassed to admit it!

My problems (as if you care)...

My first problem is that I can't actually physically escape mumsnet - I am not addicted to it, although at one time I probably was... but I have real life and MSN friends who are regular MNers and I seriously cannot escape talk of this board, or mentions of me etc.

My other and most upsetting problem is that a small (at least I hope it's small) amount of you think I'm some kind of evil malicious creature. Recently my friend organised a meet up, I said I wouldn't go because of all this, but she persuaded me anyway (hello you if you're reading, you persuader you, oh ok all you have to do is dangle chocolate in front of me) anyway, on hearing that I was going another MNer decided to pull out, saying that it might be damaging for her child if I was there, I don't know if you realise how upsetting it is for someone to think of you that way, but it really isn't pleasant to know that people think of me as some evil potential child damager. (if you're reading - I know you came anyway hun, but there it is all the same, I'm not saying it as a personal thing about you, and I don't blame you).

What really happened

Well I started it all, I found out from someone else that you could post over the top of deleted threads and they didn't show up on active convos, therefore you had to be linked to them. Then in a fit of madness I thought it would be funny to start a 'Btch Club' thread, with all the rules of fight club, but about btching. At the time I thought people would do 'spoofy' b*tching and that it would all be fun and games, I was having a really thoughtless idiotic week, but there's no point in excuses.

Some people decided to take it seriously - Starlover and Lockets said some nasty things about people on here (not sure they want to be mentioned, god I'm not sure SL and L want to be again either, argh it's messy) but basically they said that someone wore clothes they er, didn't agree with and that they just plain didn't like someone else (and a few other people, but I'm quite sure those other people already knew and that is the key thing here)... I then said that I found someone on here homophobic, because in one of her posts the person had made me cry whilst talking about me flaunting bi-curious ways too much on the board (which I did, but you still made me cry) - I'd already said what I thought about her to her on the boards and it was only a repetition of those words.

[note added afterwards]

Something that I did that may be construed as btchy was that on the narnia thread I said 'what do you think of so'n'so?' which I meant as 'what do you think of me adding so'n'so to the group?' but by the time I had emailed the link to her, I came back to find everyone had said what they thought* of her!

The thing was that the two people from here that were mentioned didn't know this was how L and SL felt about them, and they had met these people.

About two weeks later one of the people mentioned emailed me, and it suddenly occured to me that if it was me, I would want to know what was said, and without any further thinking (seriously I didn't think) I told her all about it, she emailed back, said (or maybe asked? Can't remember) she was telling everyone here and I still didn't think of what a serious issue this would turn into, it was a real shock. Yes, I was that naive.

It's all a bit hazy now, but I know for certain that I'm not the evil, malicious sht stirring screaming banshee that some of you think I am. I know that in RL I don't do or understand btching, and have never really got gossiping either, I was always a bit of a tomboy in that respect 'have a bot of a shout, get over it'.... I tell people to their faces, usually, although we all have chats about other people we know.

I'm sorry for dragging this up, but I'm not the first, I'm not even the first to talk about it today. I hope that you can all please just let it go after this thread because it really wasn't as bad as most of you think (I mean, we really, honestly banged on for hundreds of posts about real nappies and who was the better lentil weaver).

I don't think SL and L said anything nearly as bad as quite a few people (probably) say in MSN all the time and TBH I think they've been victims of a witch-hunt based on not many facts (me too a little)... although I'm sure the two people who were mentioned don't think that, and are very right to be very hurt.

I'm sorry for the whole saga, I'm sorry for the length of this, I'm sorry for forcing my need for closure under your nose like this.

I can't stand having friends on here, even if I don't want to post, I feel banished and shunned.

I know, it's just the net, get a life. But still, the feeling remains.

Maybe you will link people who call me an evil sht stirring btch to this now? Even if just reading the sheer length of it is good punishment for swearing!

(I bet no one bothered reading to the end did they?)

Over and out (out damn spot!)
Fastasleep, the idiot. Who is still bl--dy here..

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Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:34

Oh my god I'm posting agaaain.

I never set out to hurt anyone, I think I said that already and I really do mean it. I feel awful that people were hurt and on my head be it.

I'm grovelling here!

And I think I do want to stay, even if I don't feel up to joining in for the moment.

And I don't like pity so don't start!

~-~

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beef · 18/07/2006 13:37

not malicious?

ask lockets and sl about that - perhaps your apology should be headed in their direction

I'm off this is making me mad again!

NomDePlume · 18/07/2006 13:37

If you wanna stay, stay. But don't expect those who were offended by your lapse of judgement to welcome you with open arms...

That said, I wasn't, so I won't be shunning you, fa.

MamaG · 18/07/2006 13:39

Maybe you should delete this before it kicks off completely and just start a new one saying sorry, without dragging others into it!

Pamina3 · 18/07/2006 13:39

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meowmix · 18/07/2006 13:40

can see why you posted this but might have been better to leave it and post under a new name if you want to stay. This is a bit raking/coals if you catch my drift.

Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:40

What?

I only told Hunker what they said, which was unthinking. The thing I feel bad about regarding that is that they thought what they said was in some sort of confidence (in front of ten MNers) but I didn't think they would say the things they said.

I have never had malicious intent towards either SL or L as L can tell you from all the times I replied to her emailing me telling how much she hated me.

I don't do malicious intent, I do do stupid though.

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beef · 18/07/2006 13:42

"I only ...."

oh bog off!

Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:42

I don't do pretending to be someone else either, so I had to close it.

And as I said I can't stand these people (some of whom have never read a single post of mine) thinking I'm the white witch!

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curtaintwitcher · 18/07/2006 13:42

parppppppppppppppppppppppppppp
this has been pretty much forgotten for ages whats the point!!!

[nemo]

ComeOVeneer · 18/07/2006 13:42

I think tbh this was dying a natural death (until now). I know it is still mentioned but ina "passing" KIND OF WAY. aLL i CAN SEE THIS THREAD DOING IS HASHING IT UP AGAIN. (OOPS). You apologised for your part in all of this weeks ago, all this looks like is a bit of attention seeking tbh.

Wisp · 18/07/2006 13:43

PAAAAAARP !

Sorry but this totally is

MamaG · 18/07/2006 13:43

Do you ever start to reply to a thread and then think "y'know I really can't be arsed"?

Wisp · 18/07/2006 13:43

Damn someone said it before I did

MamaG · 18/07/2006 13:44
Grin
Tortington · 18/07/2006 13:44

hiya fastasleep. know what you mean about mumsnet. its part of my internet routine.

you hurt my best friends feelings, but i think that is for you both to sort out.

i had not been at mumsnet awfully long when i got into some embroiled row - that i cant even remember with a fellow prolific posting mumsnetter. i was astounded at how upset i was at "pretend" "not real" people. like you say on the internet get a life! felt ashamed of myself for having feelings at all.

i am not bothered that you brought this up again because you have an outside life where people talk about mnet and i understand this.

i dont mean to be rude - but maybe a no buts out and out apology

just " i am heartfelt ly sorry for upsetting people"

rahter than
i am sorry but
people say it on msn
other people said worse

its not a real aopology.

i hold no grudges against you and you should continue to post imo

and the mumsnetter who thought you would currupt her children is plainly a fuckwit.

here we are in our highly illuminated glass house.. where are the stones? ( do they do boden stones?)

i think a lot know what went on. some dont give a shit. and there are new members every day.

i truly think you will find more graceful mumsnetters after a heartfelt apology than you realise. then keep your head down for a bit and stay off the sex threads for a while.

i hope you find a resolution. i will talk to you if your interesting! and i do that becuase i consider myself above no one, and if you askfor grace it should be granted.

peace and love.
keep posting

Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:45

I'm only trying to calmly explain the truth beef.

I'm sorry SL and L are hurt, and I don't think what they did was any worse than what a lot of people do or say about others behind their backs all the time. I just told the person involved which was probably ver stupid, but I know she's sort of glad I did..

Right baby is sleeping now, there's glitter on my floor. I'm off

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curtaintwitcher · 18/07/2006 13:45

pmsl mamag...all the bloody time....are you pinning for the wiggles yet!!!!!

misdee · 18/07/2006 13:46

oh stop passing the buck. they put things on a public forum that was diown nasty, and you emailed it HM.

hmmmmmmmmz

am off to xclean now.

FioFio · 18/07/2006 13:47

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Fastasleep · 18/07/2006 13:47

I am sorry.

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Blu · 18/07/2006 13:47

"I only told Hunker what they said, which was unthinking. The thing I feel bad about regarding that is that they thought what they said was in some sort of confidence (in front of ten MNers) but I didn't think they would say the things they said. "

FA - I don't 'know' you, so this is a reasonably objective observation. You may need to understand what 'bitching' is if you are to keep your freinds, and to understand that anyone who does indulge in bitching will almost certainly be a victim of the backlash. What you describe above may be 'unthinking' to you, but is a definition of 'bitching' to me.

ComeOVeneer · 18/07/2006 13:48

But FA you said you were sorry way back when why on earth are you dragging it all back up again, other than for attention seeking?

thewomanwhothoughtshewasahat · 18/07/2006 13:48

is it too naive of me to think the narnia thread might still exist? I have no clue what on earth this is all about.

Pamina3 · 18/07/2006 13:49

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