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Are there any revisionist intellectual women here?

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Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 02:05

Well; are there?

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toomanystuffedbears · 30/12/2011 19:30

x-post Rerevisionist...
We will eat. To live, naturally...it is akin to being addicted to breathing.
However, what we eat is a rather manipulative realm, isn't it?
I believe the food stuffs that come with the lables of hugely complex ingredients is a bow to "truth in advertising" for the chemicals that enhance shelf life which is more important to the industry than whether or not these additives are healthy. But the common consumer is not going to know what the super-syllable ingredients actually are, or what they specifically 'do': enhance shelf life-are we to blindly believe it?

Therefor, why would it be a leap of imagination to believe that if a chemical can make a product last longer, what is to say a chemical additive could not help us choose these products-coming back for more-a la MSG? What scientific name does MSG travel under these days? I don't know. But I would believe that the name would be changed before the use would be curtailed.

So no, natural foods, such as fresh potatoes as you suggest, would not be addictive or included in this theory; but "processed" potato chips certainly would be.

Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 19:33

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Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 19:37

@toomany - your lattermost post turned up after I posted my previous one. I agree about shelf life - I have a taped talk by the chap who establshed efamol (Horrobin - unfortunately he's dead now) who was good on essential fatty acids and possible eczema links. The most useful oils are the most likely to go off, since all organisms have rather similar food needs. Hence they're hydrogenated.

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toomanystuffedbears · 30/12/2011 19:47

Fluorides would go under 'water treatment plants'...Xmas Wink.

It is worth thinking about.

Cable TV=thought addictions? Grin

prettyfly1 · 30/12/2011 19:53

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhhhhhhhhhhh so effectively "revisionism ="pseudo-intellectual conspiracy theorising". Gotcha.

pretty goes back to work after waiting a fair old while to find out what it actually was, thus proving she is definitely NOT who the OP wants to talk to

IndianOcean · 30/12/2011 20:01

oooh, so this is a pseudo-intellectual ad for nukelies.com, is it?

IndianOcean · 30/12/2011 20:02

Oops, sorry - MN have deleted the pseudo-intellectual ad Grin

tethersend · 30/12/2011 20:06

A Pseudo-intellectual corner would be even better. Or perhaps a cubby. Or a porch.

garlicnutcracker · 30/12/2011 20:08

Yeah, but, tmsb .... If you still lived like wot they done in the Good Olde Days, absolutely everything you ate from December to May would have been preserved in salt, sugar or fat. We've always had to use additives for shelf life.

Actually I am a food-label bore (comes of having a mother like yours, by the sound of things) and most of those long names are normal food components, vitamins and such. Hang on, are you in the US? Definitely more crap in your food, then, although it's rigorously tested crap. Unless the testing itself needs 'revisioning'?

Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:10

Not really Indian, I get enough hits as it is. I mentioned it to try to identify possible revisionist types. Ah I did wonder if non-paying sites would be removed...

hello, thethersend. You must be British.

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OTheHugeManatee · 30/12/2011 20:10

Indian - I read that as 'nukeleles.com'. For all your uranium-powered musical instrument needs Grin

garlicnutcracker · 30/12/2011 20:10

Can I have the Pompous Cushion in Pseud's Corner? No, wait, I demand the Pompous Cushion!

garlicnutcracker · 30/12/2011 20:10

OTHM Grin

EtInTerraPax · 30/12/2011 20:12

The only revisionists I know are Holocaust deniers Hmm

Funnily enough, I stay clear of them.

garlicnutcracker · 30/12/2011 20:14

They probably have incontrovertible proof that you're not avoiding them, Terra.

Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:15

garlic, you missed out hot climate preservation techniques (e.g. dried-out meat), and smoking as in bacon, kippers, Scandinavian bread with a hole in etc. And ice houses for our wonderful climate. However, I forgive you.

Oh and also spices etc - salami, and .. well, there must be others. Butter.

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tethersend · 30/12/2011 20:15

Why on earth would you think that, Rerev (can I call you Rerev? It has a nice ring to it...). Just because it's a British site and I'm posting on it using British terminology, that's one hell of an assumption to make.

But yes, you're right, I am.

Or perhaps that's what I want you to think Wink

tethersend · 30/12/2011 20:16

LOVING nukeleles Grin

Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:16

EtInTerra, 'revisionism' is basically a German word, first applied to Jews in the USSR who disputed parts of the Marxist canon. (The details hardly matter). However it's become quite a popular word.

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Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:19

@ tether - well, your nickname presumably is derived from [something] at the end of its tether.

Americans say 'at the end of its rope', not being aware of tethers (any more than kids, or gigs). So with SHerlock Holmes style logic I infer you're British!

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garlicnutcracker · 30/12/2011 20:29

You're quite right about the food preservation methods, Rere. And we missed out fermentation (which reminds me it's time for a drinky!)

I do get a bit annoyed with people overstressing the local-seasonal foods message. Am bloody glad I can get oranges & salads in the dead of winter, thank you. I don't for one second believe that Paltrow never eats imported foods ... or does Paltrow not, in fact, exist?
Confused

tethersend · 30/12/2011 20:31

There's no flies on you, eh Rerev?

Now... can you tell which city I live in?

EtInTerraPax · 30/12/2011 20:37

But tethers- all Americans know there's only 1 city in the UK, isn't there?

Do you live near Princess Di?

Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:47

tether, I looked you up and can safely say you post in profusion, notably to the 'Am I Being Unreasonble??' agony thread. I couldn't find any references to towns, but then, by searching on London, found you were brought up in Hitchin, but would not consider leaving London. So there. I used to live in NW3, but that was a long time ago. Sigh.

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Rerevisionist · 30/12/2011 20:49

garlic - I missed out garlic, though admittedly it's a bit rare here. ('Ramsons' is supposed to resemble it). Kingsley Amis thought food is improving, and 'they can't do much with whisky' which must prove somehting.

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