urgent advice needed, does this mean im pregnant?

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I've just done a test as my period was late, and there is one very clear line and one not so clear. If there are 2 lines it means you are pregnant. Do you think its positive even tho the 2nd line is a lot lighter?

yes, actually making abortion illegal is misognist lunacy.

by all means start your own thread about the rights/wrongs of abortion, but not here on this thread, where the OP is already struggling and does not want to be pregnant.

stop trying to further your own agenda by guilt tripping the OP

Listen - abortion is NOT 'killing a baby'. It is ending a pregnancy. There is a difference and I'm a Christian too and I can get that.
In countries where abortion is illegal women die seeking a termination through 'back street' means. You will never remove the need for an ending of some pregnancies. All people like you can hope to do is remove safe and legal abortion and replace it with unsafe practices which WILL orphan children and maim women.
You have absolutely no right to come on here and express views that you know will upset the OP. Respect her decision, respect her and keep your nose out.

DO Stop proselytizing Choc - it's inappropriate and self serving.

choc what part of there is a time and place to have this debate and here is not it do you not understand?
Fucking hell, can't believe choc is allowed to post that stuff on a thread where support is needed yet I am not allowed to tell her to fuck off!

Choc don't you realise how unsupportive you are being?

MovingOn has already said she doesn't want to continue with the pregnancy, your posts are extreme and unhelpful.

Northern After the passing of the Abortion Act in 1967 the number of abortions per year rose by nearly 700% such that some five million abortions were performed in Britain. During the last 15 years of that period, the annual total of abortions exceeded 170,000. In 1998 it was over 187,000more than 510 a daywhich is 87% greater than the pro-abortionists' estimate of illegal abortion in the 1960s and over 1,100% greater than the Royal College of Obstetriccians and Gynacologists estimate. Yes, of course there were back street abortions pre-1967, but legalising abortion has not made just a few women in extreme circumstances seek 'safe' abortions. It has opened the floodgates for abortion on demand.

How do you all know what the OP wants? She says she is not keeping the baby but many women will say this and then change their minds.

Choc for god's sake start a new thread to beat your drum and stop hijacking this one.

Sigh

Agree Topaz

Choc your last sentence shows how ridiculous your views on abortion are.

OP, sorry to hear that you've found yourself in this predicament.

FWIW, I had an abortion few years ago and it was painless, not traumatic and I've felt an overwhelming feeling of relief, not of guilt.

Choc- seriously, no one is interested in the crap you're spewing. Start a new thread if you want, but leave the OP alone.

OP, it's your choice and please ignore the ignorant lunatic. I've been in your situation and had an abortion. It wasn't the easiest decision to make but it was definately the best for me. I don't regret it as harsh as that sounds because I didn't feel I could bring up a child in the situation I was in.
Good luck with whatever you decide.

Why are chocablocks posts allowed to stay ffs?

movingon - I have been where you are as a single parent and I had an abortion. Now, I don't feel guilty and don't regret it although I did have strange feelings about it all just after it which was probably hormone related.

If you want some support please don't hesitate to PM me x

Choc, you are lobbying, and if you want to do that you should start a new thread.

FWIW you are taking the termination stats very simplistically indeed and failing to take into account whether they are early or late terminations, whether they are related to terminations being necessary on the grounds of foetuses having terminal conditions that mean they would not be able to sustain independent life anyway, related improvements in maternal mortality rates as a result of increased numbers of terminations, overall improvements to maternal health (including mental health) and even things like overall reductions in violent crime rates that are associated with a reduction in the number of unwanted pregnancies in any particular society.

Now if you want to debate this, as I am sure you will, start another thread. Otherwise, shut up and go away, unless you have something useful to say to this particular poster other than rabbiting on naively about statistics gathered by other people, often for political purposes, that you don't fully understand.

The poor OP went on holiday for a week on 27th Dec so hopefully she's not reading all this. The thread she started to get some advice.

Quite.

Rabid people who are unable to think beyond their immediate beliefs and situations completely do so much harm in society. I am glad she is spared it. Do we want to get this thread pulled?

Also, I am always baffled as to why pro lifers don't engage in debates about miscarriage prevention, for example. It's as though they only care about one type of foetus, whereas those lost because their mothers have flu or some sort of treatable condition don't seem to count. Perhaps because the main motivation is to ensure the subdugation of women to their biological state.

I want her to be able to come back though. She has her Appt on 4th Boffin.

Chocablock - you muppet (and that's putting it mildly) You plainly have no understanding of the historical situation with regard to abortion or indeed to the modern state. We do not have abortion on demand in this country. We have access to safe, medically sanctioned procedures subject to the meeting of certain considerations.

On a more personal note - people like you make me sick. Being pregnant when you do not plan to be is an incredibly vulnerable state. It is critical that women in that state are not subjected to hectoring that has nothing to do with them or their lives but only a philosophical position. Only the woman living this situation can decide what to do and the rest of us just have to be there to back her up whatever she decides. You are so, so wrong to follow the line you are taking. Please go away and THINK about what you are doing before you attempt to come near another pregnant woman.

I reported both pro life posts and got told they were leaving them there by Justine no less. My fuck off to them for deleted in minutes.

I've just reported them as well. Maybe if enough people do they'll change their mind and delete them.

I have also reported chocs posts. I am astonished at the insensitivity and ignorance of some people.

I can only tell her to really think carefully and not make any rushed decisions based on what people think or what other people would do. The decision ois the OPs and NO ONE ELSES CHOC. All we can do is give her all the information available. Maybe those pro life should concentrate there protests on getting the government to fund more money into the causes of miscarriage! Rather than trying to guilt trip people into having a baby that they are unable to cope with, BIG HUGS TO OP and anyone else reading this is similar situation, x