Rape - what sentence do you think it deserves?

[Avalon]

How about a minimum sentence of 5 years with complimentary sack and crack wax?

according to the phrase finder it means: Meaning

A gruesome form of torture and, eventually, death by execution.

Origin

In use at least until Tudor times in the UK. The victim is first hung by the neck but taken from the scaffold while still alive. The entrails and genitals are then removed and the torso hacked into four quarters.

so we're all around about right.

I feel for judges here. I don't know that I could be one in the UK. Or prosecuter, either.

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Not sure about sentencing but they need to make it annoymous (sp?) for both parties and not just for the women imo.

OO,
Do you mean anonymous for a female plaintiff or also for a male one as well?

Or for defendants?

Is the defendant here charged by the court itself - 'society' 'the people' - or by the individual who claims to the victim of the defendant's actions?

Just curious, b/c starting a law course here myself but all my background is in the States, where, for rape in particular, a perpetrator is charged by the state in which he/she committed the crime.

for the men accused of rape as well as the women, loads and loads of cases where men have their names dragged through the mud and are found not guilty.

If the woman is annon, the man should be as well.

I'd agree w/you there, OO.

Don't agree with straight mandatory sentencing, but rape should be very severely punished. And rapists should not serve half their sentences and be released. Rapists should always have to attend programmes to address their behaviour and hatred of women. Sadly rapists often re-offend so they MUST be made to recognise the gravity of their crime and forced to confront their behaviour. Racism is now treated as an aggravating factor. Hatred of women should be treated equally harshly.

yes OO agree.

ES - I think the system is vic goes to police, police investigate, goes to CPS (crown prosecution service) for a hearing of sorts then it's sent to crown if it's serious enough? - althou I suspect cod will set me straight on that, but i think it's the vic via the CPS that bring it to court??

Sadly a very small percentage of men accused of rape are convicted. That's not because they are all innocent but because the crime is still surrounded by an awful lot of ignorance and prejudice against the victim.

Every other accused criminal is named (except children or in very rare instances where a judge makes an order), why should alleged rapists be protected? It suggests that rape isn't as serious as burgulary, or speeding.

(but if he's convicted and sentanced then the public surrounding him have a right to know) of course they won't do that thou as then u'll have the whole witch hunt type thing going on, and attacks.

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well if you are accused of burglary or speeding it doesn't have the same stigma as being accused of being a rapist if you are found not guilty.

Do speeding points 'drop off' here? In the state of CO, you got points for speeding, but if you went, say, 2 years w/no other accrument of points, the points dropped off your record.

You were also entitled to take a 'defensive driving' course and pay court costs on one speeding ticket every two years in exchange for no points.

dp's dropped off after 5 yrs.

In Colorado, it's 2 points every two years dropped off - as long as you don't get any more speeding points.

I went for nearly 8 years w/no tickets. Then got 2 in 2 months .

'Ma'am, do you know why I pulled you over?' 'Well, of course, officer, I was speeding.' Duh.

i thick chop their willy off....

they'll never rape anyone again that way

A few months ago i would have been all for some terrible punishment, lots of pain and humiliation, and life inpronsionment etc -

But since then, having thought it through and come to terms with my own personal sistuation my views have changed somewhat.

I dont think that there is ever going to be any form of punishment that will make up for what a suvivor (not 'victim') goes through.

I am surprised to find that I agree with some of what cod is saying, its never black and white and i thing that the rapists history has to come into it.

I have no answer to what the punishment can be, i couldnt ever make a desision to what sentance to give a rapist because i would be using my emotions to judge.

But using your energy to focus on all the ways in which you could hurt the attacker isnt good for you, it messes you up inside, and keeps you in the place where they left you.

I do think that the perpertrator would definatly need some intensive psychothearpy and psychiatric help. Rape is about power and control not sex. And although it in now way justifys what they did, something has happened to this person to make them act the way they do.

I just dont know, i dont think there are any real answers, each case is individual and needs to be looked at as such.

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I disagree with minimum sentences too.

edam - the reason accused rapist's identities are protected is because it's such a serious crime, surely? and more to the point it's a serious crime which quite often comes down to one person's word against another's. Much as I think too many rapists get off, it is not unheard of for somebody to falsy accuse somebody of rape and it is always going to have a lower conviction rate than other crimes.

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Cod, do rapists automatically go to crown court?

or does something happen to determine which type of court a person is tried in?

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