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What would you do?

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:01

Need some advice. A friend of a friend is claiming benefits she isn't entitled to, and its really annoying me! Am considering grassing her up...what do you think? Story as follows....

She lives in a council house/flat. Is claiming she is living on her own, but dp is living with her and has done since their dd was born 14 months ago. She is also claiming not to be working, but is working for cash in hand...now, she's pregnant again, and says that when she has the baby she isn't going to put the fathers name on the birth certificate as she thinks it'll looks 'dodgy' and thinks she'll get more money if the social don't know the kids have the same fathers!!!

I am quite frankly shocked by this attitude. I've always hated the fact that they have claimed for things they shouldn't do, as dp and myself struggle on, and work full time to pay for our house, and they end up with more money than us. It just doesn't seem fair. I've let that go over my head, but finding out what she is planning to do, is making me so angry that i just want to shop her.

What do you think?

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startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:03

i would shop her! definitely! i cannot stand people who do things like thgat

hunkermunker · 30/10/2005 21:04

Shop her.

QueenVictoria · 30/10/2005 21:05

Shop her. Its confidential.

HRHWickedwaterwitch · 30/10/2005 21:07

Well, I wouldn't shop her personally. You don't necessarily know the full circumstances. How do you know they get more money that you do? And how will shopping her help you? Will you feel good about it do you think? I doubt very much that anyone on benefits is rolling in it and living a high life.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:08

I really want to. My concern is for the dd they already have and for the unborn child who won't officially have a father that worries me. I don't want to hurt them by doing this

I'm glad you all think i should do something about this though

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madmarchscare · 30/10/2005 21:08

I dont mind turning a blind eye to the odd fiddle if somone is really struggling, but she is taking the p$ss and needs sorting out. Grass now!

compo · 30/10/2005 21:09

I think you probably would end up hurting them though. Also your friend will probably realise you shopped her as the ads on how to do it are everywhere and she'll remember she told you.

HRHWickedwaterwitch · 30/10/2005 21:09

Er, I don't really think your concern is for the dd or unborn baby. If it was you wouldn't risk their mother going to prison based on a phone call from you. Fine, shop them if you want to but don't be disingenuous about your motives. It sounds like sour grapes to me.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:10

Well that fact that they earn more than me doesn't really come into it. As i said, they've been doing this for over a year already. I'm a little peed off at the attitude towards the new baby, and i don't think its right.

And it will make me feel better because we are all paying for people who cheat the system and its not fair.

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HRHWickedwaterwitch · 30/10/2005 21:11

If it doesn't come into it why did you mention it? It clearly does bother you.

compo · 30/10/2005 21:11

I agree with www so at the monet you have 4 on your side, and 2 against. Have you made a decision yet?!!

startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:13

www i doubt very much the mother would go to prison.....

i think you should shop them... what they are doing it unfair and it is against the law! if she is working then she shouldn't be getting certain benefits... her dp could get a job too!

HRHWickedwaterwitch · 30/10/2005 21:13

And that 'we're all paying for people who cheat the system' line, hmmm, well, I've looked up the stats before and actually, something like 2% of claims are reckoned to be fraudulent, which means 98% are not. I'm FAR more concerned about people like Murdoch who move their companies around to avoid enormous amounts of corporation and other tax. Now they cost us all money imo.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:13

Not really because i own my own house and they don't. So not sour grapes in that case. I just don't think that cheating to get the money is fair. As well as illegal.

Obviously, the fact that their mother would be taken away from them does bother me or i wouldn't be asking for advice on here.

And, as i said, they've been doing it for a long time, and if it was sour grapes then i'd of done it a long time ago

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HRHWickedwaterwitch · 30/10/2005 21:14

People do go to prison for fraud. If you're prepared to live with that on your conscience if it does happen, then go ahead. You are obviously not entirely convinced or you wouldn't be asking us!

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:16

No i'm not entirely convinced, as i don't think its my place to do it. However, if we all felt that way then nothing would get done would it.

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startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:17

www i can tell you for a fact that they will not send someone with a small child and a baby on the way to prison! seriously!

Passionkiller · 30/10/2005 21:22

Shop for sure.

QueenVictoria · 30/10/2005 21:23

I dont think AAU has anything to feel guilty about or have a conscience about.

If people want to abuse or flout rules to their own benefit then thats their lookout. Im not sure why doing the right thing is considered sour grapes. Are you suggesting that its actually okay to do this those of you against reporting the woman?

Batters · 30/10/2005 21:24

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hunkermunker · 30/10/2005 21:24

I don't like the "oh, it's only a little bit of fraud, it never did anyone any harm" line.

It's like "oh, it's only a little bit of shoplifting"

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:28

I can't believe i'm having to defend myself for wanting to do the right thing. Yeah it annoys me that they have extra money they are not entitled to,because i think its wrong. And yeah it annoys me that they can earn more money than me by doing this. But as i've said, i've known about this for a year now, so if my reason were sour grapes i would of done it before....

And actually, my concern IS for the unborn child. As i don't think its right what they are planning to do. I really don't!! I think that not putting the fathers name down for monetary reasons is absolutely unforgiveable

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Batters · 30/10/2005 21:32

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hunkermunker · 30/10/2005 21:34

For your father not to want to put his name on the certificate to get a few extra pounds a week - that's vile.

motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:34

I cannot see why it's your business whether a child's father's name is cited on its birth cert or not.

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