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What would you do?

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:01

Need some advice. A friend of a friend is claiming benefits she isn't entitled to, and its really annoying me! Am considering grassing her up...what do you think? Story as follows....

She lives in a council house/flat. Is claiming she is living on her own, but dp is living with her and has done since their dd was born 14 months ago. She is also claiming not to be working, but is working for cash in hand...now, she's pregnant again, and says that when she has the baby she isn't going to put the fathers name on the birth certificate as she thinks it'll looks 'dodgy' and thinks she'll get more money if the social don't know the kids have the same fathers!!!

I am quite frankly shocked by this attitude. I've always hated the fact that they have claimed for things they shouldn't do, as dp and myself struggle on, and work full time to pay for our house, and they end up with more money than us. It just doesn't seem fair. I've let that go over my head, but finding out what she is planning to do, is making me so angry that i just want to shop her.

What do you think?

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:34

No i haven't made up my mind at all. I did want opinions, but at the same time, i didn't expect to have to defend myself.

Even though i think i would be right to, at the moment, i don't think i will because i would be hurting the wrong people. So i'm damned if i do, damned if i don't

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:36

Its none of my business i know. But i do think its shocking and as hm said, its vile

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Batters · 30/10/2005 21:36

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motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:37

Why is it vile? I genuinely don't understand. Why does his name have to be on the certificate? How often do people look at their birth certs anyway? Surely if it's involved fatherhood which is your concern, that is a different thing.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:39

Batters.

  1. because its against the law
  2. if they get found out then they would have no reason to lie on the birth certificate

I just think its immoral. And as i have a very small baby myself, i am thinking about it as if it were my baby. And it makes me sad

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piffle · 30/10/2005 21:41

If it was a great friend mmmm maybe not but if they were seriously taking the piss then even then yes.
but a more casual one def yes...

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:43

Thanks for all your opinions.

I genuinely wanted advice because i really don't know what to do, or what the concequences to my actions will be.

I think that shopping them would be the 'right' thing to do, but have decided not to do anything about it, as i do not want to be held responsible if anything bad were to happen. Didn't realise prison was a possibility before i posted.

Thanks again

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:45

I'm sure they are the right details because my 'friend' heard it straight from the horses mouth

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startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:47

angryandupset, give me their details and i'll shop them!

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:48

Oh, and i know its not lying. I just think its sad. I know no one looks at their birth certificate, but it just wouldn't be right imo.

But that is just my opinion. Also, sorry, i didn't mention this earlier, but obviously as they don't want anyone to know they have the same fathers, the two children will have different last names. The dd has the fathers name, and the new baby will not.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:49

Thanks! Wish i could

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startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:49

i also think it's sad that they are thinking about not putting the dad's name on just for extra money!

fluffykitten · 30/10/2005 21:49

IIRC you can't put a fathers name on a certificate afterwards

You need it for schools passport etc. IMHO tell on them

Also baby will be upset as an adult to not be sure who father is IMHO anyway

motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:51

Oh come on. That last point really is nothing to do with you. Sorry, but when we get into the 'he impregnated me/her so he deserves to have the baby called after him' I really do lose my rag. Your discomfort at their benefit status is one thing. This is another.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:51

Thanks to both of you. I honestly do think its sad for the new baby. But as someone else pointed out to me, its none of my business. It doesn't make it right though

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motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:52

I think the child will know who its father is not from the birth certificate but from the adults involved in its life!

startingtobehalloweenylover · 30/10/2005 21:53

but MI the reason they want to leave it off is a bit sad isn't it?

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:53

I'm not saying that. I'm saying not calling the baby after him because of monetary reasons is wrong. And that is why they are doing it

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motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:53

I've never looked at my birth certificate to check who my father was. Come to that, I don't even know where the damn certificate is. This particular issue is not your concern. Neither is the surname one.

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angryandupset · 30/10/2005 21:55

As i've repeatedly said, i know its not my concern. I just think its immoral.

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motherinferior · 30/10/2005 21:58

eh?

rickman · 30/10/2005 21:58

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