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What would you do???

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Boe · 05/09/2003 10:26

I have just found out that someone I know very well (a family member) and absolutely detest is a financial backer for a very far right organisation that has just one a seat in a local election.

I distanced myself from the said person a long time ago and I know this seems like I am a complete bitch but if it came out in the press (if they would be interested that is?) he would be in a right pickle - he is a rich business man and a life long member of the Rotary Club and his wife is well 'respected' (not by me I hasten to add) secondary school teacher in a comprehensive that has a huge percentage of minorities and refugees attending.

Am I a complete cow to want to expose this man - I am embarrassed by what he stands for and believes in and that is one of the reasons why I will have nothing to do with him (as well as a huge list of others!!), half of me would die of embarrassement if everyone knew and half of me would be quite glad that he has finally shown his true colours.

I am just not sure what to do - the people he is backing are complete facist bigots that have no place in british politics and I am soooo cross that he has done this.

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Northerner · 05/09/2003 10:31

Oh God Boe - This is a tough one. I would absolutley want to expose this man. If these people aern't stopped now than I fear this sort of thing will spiral out of control and god knows what sort of world we will be living in in years to come.

Would it cause major family problems if you were to expose him?

At the end of the day only you can decide what to do on this. Good luck.

wickedstepmother · 05/09/2003 10:34

Hmm, a toughie Boe. On the one hand you are right that we really don't want these people in with a chance of running the country, but hen you will probably get into all manner of bother by exposing him. You may well end up looking like a 'kiss and tell' type out for a quick buck, not my impression I hasten to add but I'm sure that he could easily paint you as such.

Not very helpful, sorry

Janstar · 05/09/2003 10:35

He certainly deserves to be exposed, doesn't he? If he is so sure his views are right, why is he keeping them a secret? If I was in a minority group with a child in his wife's class I would be very grateful if the truth came out.

But you have to think of yourself too and only do what you feel comfortable with doing. Since he is a family member you have a complicated situation on your hands and only you can make the decision. I would certainly keep it anonymous though if you do go ahead. You have enough problems at the moment, don't attract more heartache for yourself.

zebra · 05/09/2003 10:48

I think I would find a way to make it public knowledge, Boe. Anonymous tip off to a journalist? But, then again, my family is already so embarrassing that a token fascist would only add novelty value.

SamboM · 05/09/2003 10:50

Grass him up anonymously. It's not like he's being very open about his affairs is it?

Just one point though, although I detest facist bigots this is a free country, the politics are decided by the voters not you!

Janstar · 05/09/2003 10:55

Yes, SamboM, so this person should not mind if everyone knows about his leanings, should he?

wickedstepmother · 05/09/2003 10:57

Ahh, great idea. I'd take the anonymous route.

SamboM · 05/09/2003 10:58

Quite Janstar. He should definitely be exposed. How are the good voters of this country going to make their decisions unless they are kept informed

codswallop · 05/09/2003 11:00

i wouldnt.

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Boe · 05/09/2003 11:06

It is the BNP - they, I beleive should not have a forum to air their views and racist beliefs, although I understand in this 'democracy' that everyone should have a voice but I think these people just try and inflame situations that could slowly fade and not be a problem - i.e. race riots in Oldham etc...

Am thinking of calling Daily Mail (or Express - Mail may actually syand up for them??) and seeing what they say - anonomously of course!!

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SamboM · 05/09/2003 11:11

The Daily Mail? Do you want your story to be twisted into a load of crap? Why not a broadsheet?

Express also shite, my SIL works for them and I wouldn't hand Dirty Des the pornographer anything, he is morally bankrupt!

SamboM · 05/09/2003 11:12

Has this bloke got a high public profile? What about Private Eye if so?

FairyMum · 05/09/2003 11:20

I would have outed him Boe. BNP supporters should be thrown out of this country ,)

codswallop · 05/09/2003 11:26

i woud do nothing. i agree that the Bnp is deplorable but how much hurt you may cause his wife ?

WideWebWitch · 05/09/2003 11:27

Definitely out him. You could do it anonymously, you can't be the only person who knows. I'd be very unhappy if my child was taught by his wife. Incitement to racial hatred is a crime btw.

SamboM · 05/09/2003 11:29

True, but can funding a legitimate political party be construed as incitement to racial hatred?

So what are you going to do Boe?

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Boe · 05/09/2003 11:30

His wife is a terrible person IMO (you are gonna guess who it is now!!) - she is gonna go to court and hold her family up as good and considerate members of the community who should be listened to.

My sister works for the local paper but he knows the editor there and I am sure that they would call him before actually printing anything or even looking into it - his tentacles are far reaching.

He is the kinda guy who gets peoples legs broken and send people round with sorn off shot guns if they happen to owe him money - none of this is public knowledge - I just really do not agree with anything he does or says (same goes for his wife) and it sounds awful but not only would it be right IMO but would serve as great revenge!!

(Plus if they want to give me a couple of ££ would at least pay off some of my bills - I have found out that they are paying for my x2bs solicitor!!)

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codswallop · 05/09/2003 11:30

Hold on!Since when is his wife involved?

codswallop · 05/09/2003 11:31

I would try and not get your personal feelings twds them as people get in the way either....

codswallop · 05/09/2003 11:33

maybe a newspaper journalist will read this and....(then it wont be your prob..)

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Boe · 05/09/2003 11:34

Thought this was a big break and would really help me but am starting to wonder if anyone would actually be bothered at all. Not like he a member of parliament or a celebrity - just disgusted at them for acting so bloody selfrighteous and then backing something like this and not even just voting for them but throwing money after them!!

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SueW · 05/09/2003 11:35

I'm with coddy on this and I'm not sure what you are saying wrt to his wife. Is she of the same mind as her DH? If she is, why would she work in a school with so many ethnic minorities unless to subtly sabotage their education? It's not uncommon for partners not to agree on political viewpoints.

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Boe · 05/09/2003 11:39

Would you want your son or daughter educated by someone like that - I know that if my DP even thought of doing something like that I would leave him - sounds harsh but some people have to have standards and I think her sticking by him when she knows he is doing this is tantamount to supporting him!!

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SamboM · 05/09/2003 11:40

Boe are you doing this for personal gain/revenge or the greater good. Think you need to get your motives sorted out.

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Boe · 05/09/2003 11:50

Both really - one of the reasons we do not like each other is his (and her) beliefs - I had a black boyfirend once and he would not let him in the house and when he came to stay when they went on holiday she insiusted on having contract cleaners round to disinfect the place!!

All his beliefs are farcicle - he does not understand the implications of some of the things he says - he would have all non british people sent abroad back to where they came from - he once said that people could stay if both there parents had been born here - I told him that the economy would go to pot - we would get in huge trouble as a country and most of the people would not support this - obviously pouring money intot he BNP is how he is getting his views out there to some of the local electorate.

On a personal level would be nothing but good for me for them to be exposed not as the good upstanding members of the community that they profess to be.

Would you do it in my position if you think of what I will be fighting for?? (In terms of DD and court??)

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