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Who wants to help me plan stuff for the new nursery?

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KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:13

Don't worry if it's no-one I can talk to a wall I am so excited

My dad loved it & was ready to put in an offer there & then

In case anyone missed it it's here

It doesn't need change of use planning permission and I think I have access to enough funding

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CarGirl · 25/04/2008 21:19

yes please, although I will be of little help.

Have you checked to see if there are any grants you can get, in the future do you think you could do early years funding? My CM has had a grant of £1,500 to spend on do something for her early years curriculum that she hasn't been able to cover so far.

You do know if you don't make profit in the first few years you can usually get your previous years income tax back? Worth looking into with the intial large start up costs.

CarGirl · 25/04/2008 21:20

How big was the garden area in the end?

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KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:26

We think the garden is about 4.5-5m by about 12-15m it's hard to tell (very overgrown)

The parking area is 15m by 35m bisected by a concrete path 1m wide, My dad reckons I can get 8 cars (4 across, 2 deep) then put a fence to get extra outside space

The Portico/bit above the door has died and needs replacing with either a new one or if we can afford it a porch. Either way the doors at the front need replacing - probably with u-PVC purely on cost basis

The left side (as you look atthe picture) is about 6-8ft wide and I thought to run mini veg beds down that side (3/4 of the way down)

The right side is only about 6 ft so would have a shed at the front, then an external wood burner heating the entire building. Then a secure gate (again to 3/4 of the way down)

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chankins · 25/04/2008 21:27

How exciting katymac - so its all sorted now then ? You wil officially be a nursery and not a group of cms ? I might have missed a bit.

KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:27

So there is a bit at the front on the left which might be nice for the babies

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KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:28

Sorry 2 projects/dilemmas going on

One childminding/OFSTED/crap - no progress
Two opening a nursery - shed loads of progress

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KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:29

I think we need to knock some walls about

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KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:39

The existing kitchen will be amalgamated with the larger room & I also plan on incorporating the utility area in the main area.

I will put the toilets (3 mini ones and a staff/disabled (combined)) where the utility area was and block up either end of the corridor. Moving & re-using the butler's sink.

Knock 2 doors through the end wall of the kitchen one into the conservatory area - which will be the new kitchen; and the other into the existing cloakroom & on into the existing disabled cloakroom, which will be an office.

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chankins · 25/04/2008 21:42

Sounds great !
How many members of staff will you have ?
What sort of nursery will it be ?
What made you decide to move on from cm to this ? (do lots of cms end up starting nurseries ? I seem to know a few round here)

KatyMac · 25/04/2008 21:44

Don't know?
Daycare?
I got outstanding and wanted a new challenge - but I am keeping the CM on

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chankins · 25/04/2008 21:50

Well done on the outstanding - I will be fishing for tips when my inspection is due next year !
Its kind of a dream of mine to do the same as you.
unfortuantely there is not enought work around my way at the moment for single cms, let alone enough work to be able to take on assistant, or work together, so maybe one say in the future !

KatyMac · 25/04/2008 22:03

Mind you I think it will be enough of a challenge to carry on childminding tbh

But I am very excited about the nursery

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nappyaddict · 25/04/2008 22:29

are you still doing the whole eco sustainable thing?

KatyMac · 25/04/2008 22:32

As much as I can

As it isn't really a re-build it will be difficult - but hopefully I will run it responsibly

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juneybean · 25/04/2008 23:40

I love the nursery!

I've seen your other threads about the "daycare provider on domestic premises" regarding your CMing, is that like a nursery but in a house??

KatyMac · 26/04/2008 08:20

It's a group of childminders working together in my house (with some assistants) we all work part-time due to family commitments & ill health & we have only been closed twice in 5 yrs - once fro D&V (caught from a child who shouldn't have been there) & once because the police asked us to close as there was flooding expected. Its very secure for parents but it is very home-like (well it is my house)

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juneybean · 26/04/2008 11:59

Are there different paperwork requirements for the "daycare provider on domestic premises" that you didn't have to do as a childminder?

windygalestoday · 26/04/2008 12:02

ohhhh how fab katie, im looking forward to seeing how it goes x

KatyMac · 26/04/2008 13:38

2 people on the premises at all times
half staff to have NVQ level 3
Separate baby room
toilet for every 10 children over 2 (so I'd need 2)

Basically - it's the 2 staff (one qualified) and the baby room I can't organise tbh - the loo I could jiggle

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juneybean · 26/04/2008 17:57

Argh that's stupid! It's just in effect a nursery in a home....but surely landlords won't allow that!?

I'm so sorry they're doing this to you, why do they have to mess things around all the time?

KatyMac · 26/04/2008 19:27

That's it basically in the new EYFS you are either a childminder or you are Early Years Provision (amalgamating daycare/nursery/sessional/creche) & that is it

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Bubble99 · 26/04/2008 21:07

Katy. We don't have a separate baby room. We have a separate baby area with a small room off of this area for the sleepers who need a morning/afternoon sleep other than after lunch.

Looking at the layout of the building I would suggest screening and gating off an area near to the current utility room so that you can use it as your sleeping room.

As I've said before, OFSTED do not require a separate bricks and mortar baby room and, by using partition screens in an open-planned area you keep your space flexible.

KatyMac · 26/04/2008 21:09

I've created a new floor plan

I'd email it to you but I can't remember you email addy

Mine is hotmail

With Katymacb & co/uk

If that makes sense

Doesn't EYFS say room?

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Bubble99 · 26/04/2008 21:14

We'vehad three OFSTED visits since we opened. One to register, second routine inspection and a third recently to increase baby places from 6 to 12. Although all of the info specifies 'room' we have not had any problems with our 'areas.'

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