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Nursery unprofessional?

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Two2byTwo2 · 24/01/2024 21:05

A bit long winded so apologies in advance, I want to know if I am being precious or if in fact I have a point and also what I should do about it?

Daughter turned 3 late last year. She has been attending a private nursery since March last year for a few days as to not overwhelm and get her mixing with other children. With the view to increase her days when she gets 30hr funding.

Initially all the staff were great, couldn't do enough for us and were an absolute delight, they loved our daughter and it was going well.
Our daughter admittedly can be a handful, she is very tom boyish and boisterous. She has a lot of male family so she can hold her own. She went through a phase of biting, but we managed to head it off after a couple of weeks. However she has taken to scratching! This happens mainly at nursery and she can hurt other children (we cut her nails every other day). She does it at home on occasion but not often.
The nursery think she could be SEN / Autistic etc. We do not think she is at all, she's affectionate with most and she does recognise when people are upset. She often over loves if that is a thing, cuddles other children and doesn't listen if asked not to.

She can be stubborn, have tantrums, scream and imagine disruptive to the other children (is this not standard 2yr old tantrums?). Sometimes she does get overwhelmed with the childrens games/noises and can lose it a bit so she does require some time out, often with an adult on a 121 basis.

We've worked together with the nursery and come up with plans to replicate how they manage her so we are being consistent at home and nursery. We have set up reward charts at nursery and she enjoys that, it does help.

We know she is no angel but they've asked to refer her for SEN/Autism assessments which we've said no to as she is far too young to assess, they recommend about 6yrs for Autism.
I have asked to up her days to use the 30hr funding I enquired in October just after her 3rd birthday and said happy to wait for space as in no rush. However they have come back and said no they can't and made several excuses.
We are actually really quite upset at this as she's done so well, been there almost a year and formed bonds with the staff and children alike.
I feel that as they have made this diagnosis that she's SEN and claiming that it is unfair to others because of her additional needs when in fact I think it is that they dislike her and cannot cope with her behaviour? In my opinion this is poor on the part of the nursery that they're not willing to continue to support, and a shame for our daughter that we may have to start all over again.
Like I said at the beginning a long post and am I being precious?

OP posts:
Mysterian · 24/01/2024 23:56

But at the moment they're discriminating against a child with behavioural issues that mean they lose money on them. Nurseries can do that.

Oneearringlost · 25/01/2024 07:36

NewName24 · 24/01/2024 23:21

Full credit to @Two2byTwo2 for replying to so many people, and to taking on board what everyone has said.
You don't see much of that on MN Smile

Great post by @babybythesea at the top of P3

Yes, I thought that too.
All the very best OP.

FVFrog · 25/01/2024 11:46

Best of luck @Two2byTwo2 💐

Tumbleweed101 · 27/01/2024 10:04

Some autism can be picked up from when a child is still a baby, with others it present differently and becomes more obvious as they get older.

With your agreement the nursery can place a referral through. Other routes are to speak to your GP and get a child development centre review. In the setting we will get visits from occupational therapists and other professionals to assess a child with a potential diagnosis. It doesn’t always mean autism either, it could be sensory processing issues or ADHD tendencies (this is the one they won’t usually confirm until children are older).

At the nursery without a SEN diagnosis they may well be using a behaviour support plan to help
manage her reactions and help
her in the parts of the day they may notice her behaviour change.

Looking after SEN and children with behaviours needs is hard work , especially with more than one child who may need support. Aggressive behaviours can be the hardest to manage because you need to keep other children safe. At age three children are on a 1:8 ratio and their isn’t often the funds to have a one to one or even a higher adult ratio to the room. If one child take up a lot of time and attention it impacts the learning of the others so this may be why they are reluctant to offer more hours at the moment. They need to know all the children are getting enough tIme from them.

Thefaceofboe · 10/02/2024 13:09

We know she is no angel but they've asked to refer her for SEN/Autism assessments which we've said no to as she is far too young to assess, they recommend about 6yrs for Autism

this is absolutely not true. Please don’t be that parent who refuses to get your child the help they need. The nursery are a lot of experienced than you and are not just wanting to refer her for the fun of it.

Thefaceofboe · 10/02/2024 13:11

Sorry I’ve just seen your updates! I hope you get sorted

PauPie · 21/05/2025 18:00

I wonder how this one ended. When I read the post, I had similar thoughts to author..so has there been a movement?

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