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Nursery demanding 3 year old walk into nursery as opposed to being held...

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BelleBoyd · 20/06/2017 10:10

My DS likes to be held when he goes into nursery. Otherwise he's really independent -not clingy at all. It's just when we get to the nursery door he wants me to hold him and then I give him a hug and kiss and usually is fine..sometimes not and cries and then his keyworker has to take him from me.
It really annoys me though that they are now demanding he walks in.
This morning the nursery manager told me to put him down and for me to walk in while she held him back crying and then he ran to me inside still crying. What's the point? He's 3.
I only hold him for a couple of minutes.

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Verbena37 · 22/06/2017 23:40

Totally agree with Goldmandra.

sleeponeday · 23/06/2017 00:26

I don't think a child suffers at preschool age from plenty of cuddling and reassurance. I'd also point out that being away from their primary carer for several hours in a row already nicely allows for independence - no?

Lottie5mummy · 23/06/2017 00:32

I would say do what's right for you and your child. You won't be able to carry him forever so enjoy it while you can. My LO is five and a half and I still like to pick her up very occasionally but equally she does everything independently now. When she started school they used to allow parents in to help sort the children's things but stopped it after Christmas to build their independence which felt like a balanced approach 😊

MyWhatICallNameChange · 23/06/2017 00:55

You're making a rod for your own back OP.

I carried my son into nursery as a toddler and I still have to do it now, he's 18 and taller than me, but I've been carrying him into his A Level exams. I'm very strong now. Grin

Or maybe he'll grow out of it in his own sweet time. I don't see many kids being carried into school. Except mine obvs. Wink

ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 23/06/2017 01:58

MyWhat,

Grin
ZuzuMyLittleGingersnap · 23/06/2017 02:11

Some PPs are attaching a huge amount of weight to the chronological age of 3 yrs!

Was unaware 3 is apparently the official cut-off point from 'allowing' a child a quick carry when in resonse to (I don't mean when consistently being the cause of ) occasional distress at drop-off?

"Developmentally appropriate" re emotions is (or should be?) about what's developmentally appropriate for each individual pre-schooler, isn't it?
Not a blanket decree that child X (a late March-born), is now at the magic 3 yrs and should jolly well be discouraged from seeking parental reassurance in his preferred way...he's being "babied" and should conform to what classmates Y & Z, (both early September-born, and having had an extra 6 months of practice) are perfectly happy doing.

Desired goal of both nursery and parents:
a well-adjusted kid, who's secure in his relationships within the nursery setting, confident of his own abilities, and eager to try new things/ extend his range.
Just can't see how kids taking their leave from parents in whatever way most comfortable to them significantly affects that outcome being reached???

From the POV of nursery staff, dealing with the hectic drop-off period, it's totally understandable they want the quickest, most positive start to sessions...
I get the thinking behind reinforcing the idea of inside the classroom we learn to do things without our DPs, so that's why they say goodbye at the door and don't need to come in with us.
And, yes, prolonged goodbyes can definitely be counterproductive. Resettling and comforting classmates agitated by distressed child being peeled from parent must be far from nice.
Nobody, least of all the poor child himself, is going to be in a receptive state very quickly after that.

I just think a rule provoking that unnecessary drama over who cuddles where or walks over which threshold to begin with is only ever going to impede independence, if rushed at the wrong pace.

Lindsxxx · 23/06/2017 08:25

I would tell them that you will carry him in if you want - you take your cues from him and not them. Clearly he is not ready for this next step, could Ben that next week he will be. If having four chcimdren has taught me anything it's that kids do their things in their own time. I am a massive advocate of helping them to feel secure, and if that means carrying them in so they can start their day off well then so be it. It may be worth you discussing it with him, maybe once or twice a week asking him if he's ready to be a big boy and walk in, obviously a little Gentle encouragement is always nice :-) and if it's going to cause you bother maybe a small bribe would help him decide too 😂
Good luck, 3 is still only little ❤️

Lovelymess · 23/06/2017 08:59

Maybe they think it'll help his independence if he's allowed to walk in himself lol or maybe he's heavy and they don't want to be lifting him off you?

Lovingit81 · 23/06/2017 10:02

Ridiculous, he's a child and more importantly he's your child and you know him best so do what's right for him. You are paying them don't forget. It's worth asking their reasoning and 'he's a big boy' is not good enough, he's 3!! Poor little thing, cuddle him all he wants!!

Minaktinga · 23/06/2017 18:01

I would talk to them about why and then take it from there. They should take a lead from you unless there's a good reason. 3 is very young.

HSMMaCM · 24/06/2017 00:14

Can't you compromise and carry him in and then put him down and give him a hug before he puts him

HSMMaCM · 24/06/2017 00:14

*walks in

jannier · 24/06/2017 17:57

I would talk to the key worker and ask why they have advised this.
It could be independence it could be preparing for him being in full time school in 3 months time. It could be because of the way he reacts after you have gone, it could be health and safety because the staff are having to carry him or lift him off you (they have a duty to protect their staff which is why nursery changing stations are waste high with steps up to them for the child to avoid lifting), it maybe they feel you are projecting a fear into him ( I have one Lo who's mummy is full of I will miss you don't worry it will be okays when the child is virtually pushing away saying give it a rest mum I want to play not that Id say anything to her) it could be he expects to be carried every time they come into the building. Until you ask its anyone's guess.

BelleBoyd · 04/07/2017 08:05

I have just seen how many responses there were to my original post! He is 3 but not starting school this September-he has a whole year more of nursery.
I have now started putting him down and saying goodbye as a lot of people here have said it's unreasonable to expect staff to lift him. But he still likes to be carried other the 'threshold'.
I've spoken with the nursery and they say he needs to walk in and if he doesn't he doesn't reach the developmental age he should be in their records for him-showed me his book which had statements with boxes to tick off-one being walking in.
He walks indeed runs into most situations and places happily whether I'm staying or not but has said he doesn't like nursery.
I have spoken to them about this also as he's been there a year and I was hoping by now he would at least accept going if not joyously.
When he knows it's a nursery day he cries and moans about it from waking up.
I hope he will come to accept it and eventually walk in, and it is difficult to get him to walk in if he point blank refuses to. I have to carry him in at the moment or we would never get in the door!

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NigellasGuest · 04/07/2017 08:12

Could you arrange for someone working there to meet you at the gate and then say goodbye and he walks with her into nursery ? Kind of break the habit?

Goldmandra · 04/07/2017 10:00

I've spoken with the nursery and they say he needs to walk in and if he doesn't he doesn't reach the developmental age he should be in their records for him-showed me his book which had statements with boxes to tick off-one being walking in.

Oh my goodness! Children do not develop by tick lists! This is exactly what they should not be using these statements for. They should be used to observe what the child can do and consider what might be preventing it.

If your son runs independently into lots of situations, whether you are staying or not, the issue is not with his development or anything you are doing. The problem here is that he doesn't feel safe, happy and confident enough to choose to walk in to that particular place.

I would suggest that they concentrate on working out how to make him feel welcome, happy and valued in their nursery so he is pleased to be there when he arrives and runs in naturally and enthusiastically as he does in other places.

The fact that he can't do that now is an indicator that they need to change something about how they care for him, not that he needs to be pushed.

If they aren't capable of reflecting on their own practice and identifying ways to make him feel welcome and supported, I would have a look round other settings and see if there is a better option for this last year before school.

BelleBoyd · 04/07/2017 10:00

I've spoken with the nursery about some other kind of entry procedure that might help but I don't want him to get special treatment that's noticeably different to all the other kids. Don't think that's best for him or the other children. Plus I have to get his book to sign him in each morning inside the nursery.

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Goldmandra · 04/07/2017 10:04

I've spoken with the nursery about some other kind of entry procedure that might help

That's not the right approach. The fact that he isn't walking in isn't the problem.

The problem is the fact that he is naturally a child who would run in happily but isn't doing it there. This reflects on them, not him or his development and trying to put measures in place to tick a box won't deal with the underlying problem.

BelleBoyd · 04/07/2017 10:06

Yes agree GoldMantra. I have said a few times to the staff I'm concerned that he still hasn't settled well enough to want or even accept going into nursery.
It doesn't seem to me they are addressing that concern. They say he loves it here and is very happy. So maybe he is or maybe not who knows. He complains about nursery consistently and has never gone in happily. I have considered moving him but I don't want to put him through another settling in plus this nursery is attached to the school he will go to so hopefully will be easier for him when the time comes to move to Reception.

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Goldmandra · 04/07/2017 10:10

That makes sense.

I would just keep reflecting back to them that he runs in happily in other places so you aren't concerned about his development and what could they do to help him feel excited and confident enough to do it when he arrives there?

SaneAsABoxOfFrogs · 04/07/2017 11:15

My son is exactly the same going in to nursery, and the staff still have to peel him off me and then distract him with a book. They told me that some children (particularly first children who have spent a lot of time just with their mum, like my son as we have no family nearby) just take a long time to consciously choose to leave their mum, and that's okay as long as they are settled and happy once I've gone. They are not worried at all. Hope that helps a little

HSMMaCM · 04/07/2017 21:18

From eyfs - • Separates from main carer with support and encouragement from a familiar adult.

It doesn't say they can't have a cuddle with Mum at the gate and then walk in with a member of staff. Ask them what learning goal they're talking about. And ask to see his learning journey.

Well done for letting him walk in now.

Isadora2007 · 04/07/2017 21:34

Whilst I can see some people thinking that carrying your child could communicate something from you to them, it can also just be about recognising what's best for your child and letting him separate in his own way but filling up on his cuddles first then leaving you.

Pushing a child into separating in a way that suits a tick list or curriculum is going to be more than likely counterproductive.

Our boy starts school this august and will be 5 in October. He had a cot up against our bed from day one and it was replaced with a single bed when he was 1.5/2. He has had his own "bedroom" since he was 1.5/2. He moved out of our room around a month ago without being pushed or cajoled or even asked. It was his time to do so and he has done it with no tears or anything.

Your wee boy will walk into school without being carried. He will get to a day when you carry him for the last time and you won't even know when that last time is... so don't you stop carrying him if you don't believe he is ready for it. Trust him and yourself and your relationship.

AbbyDx · 05/09/2025 12:18

I hope it gets better!

Goldmandra · 06/09/2025 11:10

ZOMBIE THREAD*

Just to warn anyone else about to post.

This child will be about 10 or 11 now.

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